Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Perhaps you need to be a bit more transparent with your claims.

 

The IDF say there are 13,000 terrorists. The IDF being the organization currently bombing civilian neighborhoods.

 

 

What the IDF claim is absolutely not  credible evidence, it’s as partisan as it comes.

 

 

What makes you claim I am not being transparent: Here is my link from yesterday. The link that was a direct response to your post and yet today you again claim it was unsubstantiated:

Just now, placeholder said:

I have yet to see you offer an ounce of skepticism of any of the posts that included reports from the IDF or Cogat. That says it all.

I am still waiting for you to show me where I made any claims on the post?

Just now, placeholder said:

So, you're claiming that you trust the Palestinian reporters in Gaza? Seems unlikely, given that you have demonstrated again and again your trust in the reports from the IDF and Cogat.

Where exactly did I make any claims? 

Just now, Excogitator said:

Again, you have absolutely no way of knowing any of that..

 

And yet again, we will know the true numbers after the hostilities have ended. History is the ultimate judge.

 

You know, if it's your thing to support Israels cause, there are better ways of doing so than to simply go along with their violence and oppression, because guess what? It's a historical fact that it isn't working..

Well if you bring this one into it: History is the ultimate judge. Then there's no point in debating anything. 

As for evidence, plenty of links on this page:

Hamas admits one-third of its data on Gazan deaths is ‘incomplete’

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It was an unsubstantiated claim.

 

Which is why you don’t like having to defend it.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1326338-house-republicans-probe-university-funding-amid-israel-hamas-protests/page/3/#comment-18891946

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

13,000 terrorists?

Yes, I linked to this yesterday already with a link over a month old, it will be many more by now

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Hard to see evidence when reporters are denied access.

There are reporters there now, you mean International Reporters, are the reporters there now not trustworthy?

2 minutes ago, Excogitator said:

How do you know that?

 

That is what's being reported atm.

 

Try to have a more balanced view of the situation. Not just a blind awe and admiration for everything Israel does. Many Israelis oppose Netanyahu's brutality and disproportionate response to Hamas attack too..

 

Anyway, we will get the true numbers after the hostilities have ended. I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers are higher.

You are  being mislead, even Hamas does not know how many children or civilians have been killed, they don't have evidence or names for over 10,000 of them and 13,000 are also terrorists.

2 minutes ago, Excogitator said:

More than 15000 Palestinian  children have been brutally killed by Israel in this latest violence. Call it what you want,  I call it genocide.

More than 15000 Palestinian  children 

But that's not true, 15,000 children have not been killed and its not just the ICJ but also the "US has seen no evidence that Israel has committed genocide, Austin says"

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Trespass and Criminal Damage are not a Constitutionally protected t rights, freedom of speech is.

 

But you already knew that Brian.

You said "1st Amendment anyone?"

Why and what context specifically

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

1st Amendment anyone?

Didn't the police move in when students and outsiders smashed their way into the buildings causing destruction, vandalism and rendering the buildings out of use to others? What has that to do with 1st Amendment?

2 minutes ago, Excogitator said:

I don't think you would find many genuine student protesters having any affection for Hamas at all. Most of them just want to see an end to the genocide.

Most of them just want to see an end to the genocide.

Most of them sound ill informed about the Genocide 

President of the ICJ who delivered the ruling: “It didn’t decide that the claim of genocide was plausible”.

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Why not?

For the time being it hasn't been banned from the West Bank.

"The ban did not appear to affect the channel’s operations in the occupied West Bank or Gaza Strip, where Israel wields control but which are not sovereign Israeli territory."

https://apnews.com/article/israel-aljazeera-hamas-gaza-war-eba9416aea82f505ab908ee60d1de5e4

I know its not banned in West Bank or Gaza, its Israel only thats in the OP no need for a link.

Even though they employee Hamas commanders and spew their false propaganda you think they should still operate in Israel?

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Because you are claiming that reporting and opinion that contradicts the official Israeli narrative is supporting terrorism.

You said:

15 minutes ago, placeholder said:

As I pointed out, these states routinely label as terrorists anyone who they feel poses a threat to their interests. Saudi Arabia just sentenced a woman's rights activist to 11 years in prison for terrorism.

I stated:

15 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

And? Hamas are terrorists

Now do you think Israel should have let Al Jazeera carry on as normal in Israel? 

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

So criticizing Israel's conduct of the war, and reporting news that contradicts their official line, makes someone a supporter of Hamas? Simplistic thinking much?

What's that got to do with this post I responded to?

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

As I pointed out, these states routinely label as terrorists anyone who they feel poses a threat to their interests. Saudi Arabia just sentenced a woman's rights activist to 11 years in prison for terrorism.

Just now, placeholder said:

As I pointed out, these states routinely label as terrorists anyone who they feel poses a threat to their legitimacy. Saudi Arabia just sentenced a woman's rights activist to 11 years in prison for terrorism.

And? Hamas are terrorists

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

A practice they share with the Saudi, Bahraini, and Egyptian government to whatever or whomever opposes them.

You may find it hard to accept that Israel bans Al Jazeera for being a terrorist mouth piece and attempt to deflect, Israel and other states do not.

Egypt accused Al Jazeera of being a mouthpiece for the Islamist group, banning the broadcaster and arresting a number of its journalists. In 2017, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain launched a boycott of Qatar over charges it supported terrorism, an accusation Qatar denied

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/egypt-frees-last-al-jazeera-journalists-it-had-detained-2024-03-22

https://archive.ph/24Le0

Just now, placeholder said:

Not surprising that any news that contradicts the official Israeli narrative you would characterize as "terrorist propaganda". Attaching "terrorist" to whatever information displeases you.

Its not important what I would characterize, it is important what Israel does however. They certainly do attach terrorist to it. 

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Even if those accusations were true, and "connections" is such a nice vague word, ya think that's why those countries banned Al Jazeera? Remember that it was Saudi Arabia along with the UAE that invented a provocation in order to justify a rupture with Qatar.

Even if those accusations were true, and "connections" is such a nice vague word

Spewing terrorist propaganda is not vague. Hence why banned. Do you think they should let them carry on broadcasting?

1 minute ago, gargamon said:

Hardly a full surrender. It left Hamas in control of Gaza. Hamas must be destroyed. Palestinians must be protected.

Yea what I meant was a full surrender by IDF was required, complete withdrawal from Gaza while Hamas retains full control, just waiting to perform another Oct 7th

Just now, johng said:

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-rejects-ceasefire-proposal-and-presses-ahead-with-targeted-strikes-on-rafah-13130835

 

Israel rejects ceasefire proposal and presses ahead with 'targeted strikes' on Rafah

Oh gawd, you are behind the times again. The ceasefire that Hamas accepted was a new one that was drawn up by Qatar and Egypt only. Of course Israel rejected it, it was a full surrender and still no hostages back for months!

1 hour ago, retarius said:

Supporters of genocide apparently think threats of violence carry more weight than actual violence. I simply cannot understand the deprived morality of the supporters of genocide. 

I totally agree, Hamas should be eliminated with their support for Genocide

55 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Truly bizarre comment from oppositeworld. In the past, before Oct 7 it would have been considered a badge of honor to be banned by such repressive and brutal regimes like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Bahrain. Now, apparently, it's a mark of shame. 

Truly bizarre comment from oppositeworld. 

Being banned at various points because of connections to Iran and Islamist militants/terrorists would be a badge of honor to them? Who frigging cares.

The only "Truly bizarre comment from oppositeworld". I can see is yours

Indeed "death to America" is now being touted:

We found numerous disturbing pieces of literature in both encampments but wanted to highlight this most disturbing one, clearly stating:

“Death to America !”

She said she's going on hunger strike, I guess she intends to be there for quite a while then.