Bkk Brian

Just now, NanLaew said:

 

So what's with the broken record?

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes I do know the police officer did call Mr Falter 'openly Jewish' and I do know they threatened to arrest him, I posted an 8 min clip of the incident. 

 

I have no need to make any point to you, I was responding to someone else with a point to his post, do you get that part?

Just now, NanLaew said:

 

So the Prime Minister has expressed being appalled by the language used. So has pretty much everyone else, no? I am with the Met Commissioner's description of the words used by the police officer as being "clumsy".

 

Nobody is denying what was said and what happened. Nobody.

What is the point you are trying to make?

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Did Rushi say anything else about the behavior of the activist?

 

The activist group chose to edit the video, chose the scenes that portrayed the narrative they wished to push.

 

Such editing of videos is precisely the argument I made against basing arguments on videos. 
 

So go ahead punch the loop ‘watch the video, watch the video!

 

 

Have you watched the vid? Have you read the new topic that contains Rushi response?

1 minute ago, NanLaew said:

 

The police officer did call Mr Falter 'openly Jewish' and the Met have acknowledged that at least three times now.

 

The police officer did say that if Mr Falter persisted in trying to push officers out of the way so he could cross through the protest march that he would be arrested.

 

Can you get to the point? It's been ten days already.

Yes I do know the police officer did call Mr Falter 'openly Jewish' and I do know they threatened to arrest him, I posted an 8 min clip of the incident. 

I have no need to make any point to you, I was responding to someone else with a point to his post, do you get that part?

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Yes an individual police officer did d say he was openly Jewish.

 

He was cautioned that if he did not follow the police instructions he would be arrested.

 

He was not arrested.

 

He was not harmed, he’s safe and well, I think that’s a good thing.

 

The video was edited to remove scenes that are not supportive of the narrative the activist(s) used the edited version of the video to push.

 

 

 

 

"Rishi Sunak was "appalled" by the way police treated a Jewish man during a pro-Palestinian demonstration in London, a Downing Street source has said. Downing Street said the prime minister had seen the original footage of what happened and was "appalled as everyone else by the officer calling Mr Falter 'openly Jewish'"."

18 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So it turns out that the video shot by and published by the activist group had been edited by the activist group to portray a narrative they wished to push while editing out context that was not supportive to that narrative.

 

And who was it who argued that videos are not passive evidence and are subject to exactly this kind of manipulation?

 

As so often is the case, a little time passes and more details show up.

So the police didn't say you are openly Jewish then and didn't threaten to arrest him? You've not watched the vids so how would you know?

This was on the cards eventually I guess. Qatar has had enough of them hopefully. 

Hamas leaders said looking at leaving Qatar amid growing pressure in hostage talks

Hamas’s political chiefs are exploring moving their base of operations out of Qatar, The Wall Street Journal reported Saturday, as the Gulf state faces increasing pressure over its influence with the terror group in indirect hostage-for-truce negotiations with Israel.

Citing Arab officials, the report said Hamas has recently contacted two regional countries about having its leaders live there, one of which is Oman.

The outlet noted that if Hamas leaders were to leave Doha, it could be more difficult for negotiations to be held with the terror group.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-leaders-said-looking-at-leaving-qatar-amid-growing-pressure-in-hostage-talks/

3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

I've been searching high and low for any normal Jews in London who feel threatened or discriminated against, to no avail.

So I've concluded it is only the Israeli propagandists who have a problem, whilst they are pushing the Israeli stories, bit of bad luck their having as the vast majority don't agree with them.

Its not about what you can find, the police chief says otherwise.

Sir Mark replied: “I’m not disputing that.

“It’s very clear Jewish communities in London are traumatised and upset and sometimes fearful, based on events that happened overseas and the increasing hate crime in London. And that’s an awful place for us to be as a capital city, and we are doing everything we can do to tackle that.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/mark-rowley-london-jews-sadiq-khan-london-assembly-b2440513.html

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

An odd question since it was you who brought up the subject of what the Protesters were chanting.

 

 

A question that went over your head in meaning obviously.

The topic here is about Jews being discriminated in London for being overly Jewish and told to move on as a result.

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m not deflecting from some of the protestors chanting ‘River to the sea’.

 

Here’s an example of me not deflecting: 

 

But the Protestors are also accusing Israel of Genocide, and as linked they have a basis for doing so.

 

 

So what if they accuse Israel of Genocide? What has that got to do with the Jews in London getting threatened and discriminated against?

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

When I say the some demonstrators accuse Israel of genocide, I have a reference:

 

“The marches have been largely peaceful. However, many demonstrators accuse Israel of genocide and a small number have shown support for Hamas, the group that led the Oct. 7 attack on Israel and which has been banned by the U.K. government as a terrorist organization.”

 

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/wireStory/london-police-meet-jewish-leaders-protests-spark-concerns-109476893
 

Singing the ‘River to the Sea’ definitely meets my idea of what constitutes unacceptably offensive remarks.

 

But let’s not conflate overtly offensive remarks with the plausible accusation of genocide.

 

Here about 50 pages on the ICJ topic SA and Israel  this is not it. We all know demonstrators accuse Israel. 

Again you've deflected from the aggressive mob chanting "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free." A genocide chant:

US House resolution condemns chant ‘From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free’

The slogan “seeks to deny Jewish people the right to self-determination and calls for the removal of the Jewish people from their ancestral homeland,” the resolution text continues, alleging that it is a “rallying cry” that promotes violence against both the State of Israel and Diaspora Jewry, and “does a disservice to Israelis, Palestinians and all those in the region who seek peace.”

Presenting the motion to the House, D’Esposito charged that “this slogan communicates one thing and one thing only. It is not human rights, and it is certainly not peace. It is the violent destruction of the State of Israel.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-house-resolution-condemns-chant-from-the-river-to-the-sea-palestine-will-be-free/

Rishi Sunak, “Those who chant ‘from river to the sea, Palestine will be free’, are either useful idiots who do not understand what they are saying, or worse, people who wish to wipe the Jewish state from the map”.

https://timelinedaily.com/world/those-chanting-from-river-to-the-sea-palestine-will-be-free-are-useful-idiots-rishi-sunak

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I know nothing of the sort.

I do know the ICJ have stated the accusation of genocide is plausible and I do know that some demonstrators accuse Israel of genocide.

 

The genocide reference is to the protestors chanting  "From the River to the Sea" not ICJ stop the trolling ..................again and stay on topic

8 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

And your point is...?🤔. More than 33.000 Palestinians died, some impossible to identify. According to your source. There are other sources as well UN, US, EU, aso.

Hate is actually never be a good partner to argue. Definitely not for discussions. But discussions are hardly to be seen here. 

Do you agree?

There are other sources as well UN, US, EU,

No, there is only one source, Hamas and its unverified numbers. Those above you mention are quoting Hamas figures.

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not a random accusation is it?!

 

You might not agree with the accusation, but it has a basis and yes opinions differ:

 

https://www.npr.org/2024/01/26/1227078791/icj-israel-genocide-gaza-palestinians-south-africa

Its a call for genocide and you know it and I also note you claim it has a basis. 

“From the River to the Sea, Palestine Will Be Free” is a rallying cry for terrorist groups and their sympathizers, from the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) to Hamas, which called for Israel’s destruction in its original governing charter in 1988 and was responsible for the October 7, 2023 terror attack on Israeli civilians, murdering over 1,200 people in the single deadliest day for Jews since the Holocaust. It is also a common call-to-arms for pro-Palestinian activists, especially student activists on college campuses. It calls for the establishment of a State of Palestine from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, erasing the State of Israel and its people. Another phrase “Globalize the Intifada,” which uses the Arabic word for “uprising” or “shaking off,” also calls for widespread violence against both Israelis and Jews across the globe

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

And Netanyahu is the biggest problem in the ongoing Israel/ Gaza conflict, followed very closely by his (hand picked by himself) war cabinet.

Spoken like a true Hamas apologist

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Ignoring that israel struck the first blow on Iranian territory, I do wish western media would stop proclaiming that a mere 300 or so drones and missile was a relentless onslaught. It was nothing of the sort. They apparently gave advance warning of the attack to the US  and sent only as many AFVs as could be eliminated by israel's much vaunted air defenses ( interesting that at least one got through anyway- perhaps it's not as vaunted as claimed ).

 

A "relentless onslaught" is israel's continual bombardment of Gaza which has eliminated much of the area's housing and social support buildings

Not quite, your off in your own little world again

Biden, US officials were surprised by scale of Iranian attack on Israel – report

US President Joe Biden and security officials watched with “mounting alarm” as the scale of Iran’s ballistic missile attack on Israel became clear last weekend, according to a Sunday report.

“This was on the high end, I think, of what we were anticipating,” a senior official was quoted by The Wall Street Journal as saying of the moments the scope of the Iranian barrage became clear.

An unnamed official told the newspaper that it was “unclear until all was said and done” whether Israel’s missile defenses and the coalition of countries involved in shooting down projectiles had succeeded.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/biden-us-officials-were-surprised-by-scale-of-iranian-attack-on-israel-report/

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

No not at all.

 

I’ve clearly stated I like the hoodie, I like the message, I rather hope it catches on.

 

Now I accept the reason I like the hoodie and it’s message might not be precisely the same as someone else’s reason but that’s the thing with opinions, even when when folk agree something to be a good idea, they might come to that conclusion through a different perspective.

 

I like different perspectives too.

 

I definitely like the idea of the Met addressing the issue of making arrests on the basis of pejorative profiling.

 

Well done to the guy with his hoodie - I like it.

 

 

13 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Got it trolling and deflection then.

 

 

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

I read the OP, I even quoted it above.

 

I like the Hoodie, I rather hope it catches on.

 

 

Got it trolling and deflection then.

13 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

What was his religion, what discrimination did the Met apply to him? Why did they do that? What did they apologize about after the incident? What is the Gov saying about this appalling incident? 

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The guy who’s the subject of this thread?

 

I don’t know much about him. 

 

Either deliberate trolling or not bothering to read the OP. 

4 hours ago, Social Media said:

"Please do not arrest me," the individual sought to draw attention to a contentious incident involving the Metropolitan Police and a Jewish anti-Semitism campaigner.

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

He was an activist.

 

As discussed in the thread in which he was the subject.

 

Anyway, I like the hoodie, I like the message. I hope it catches on.

 

The problem of the Met making arrests on the basis of pejorative profiling is long past needing addressing.

 

Well done to the guy wearing the hoodie.

 
 

 

What was his religion, what discrimination did the Met apply to him? Why did they do that? What did they apologize about after the incident? What is the Gov saying about this appalling incident? 

Don’t restore UNRWA funding, MPs say

Conservative MPs have pressed the government not to restore funding to the UN agency for Palestiinian refugees that was paused in January after Israel alleged a number of its employees had been involved in the Hamas attack on October 7.

Theresa Villiers, the MP for Chipping Barnet, told the Telegraph that the UNRWA (the United Nations Relief and Works Agency), which was set up to support Palestinian refugees in 1949, was “completely discredited”.

A new organisation was needed which was “not tainted by the failings of UNRWA,” she said.

https://www.thejc.com/news/dont-restore-unrwa-funding-mps-say-kjr8pyj6

UN ‘set to whitewash Unrwa report’ despite new evidence of radicalisation in Gaza schools

The 245-page dossier submitted by the Institute for Monitoring Peace And Cultural Tolerance in School Education (Impact-se) appeared to confirm extreme Jew hate in Unrwa schools and uncovered numerous textbooks with content linked to the massacre.

Impact-se’s report also found some Unrwa schools celebrated October 7. In addition to the involvement of Unrwa staff on October 7, over 100 Unrwa graduates were found to be part of the Hamas group that murdered Israeli civilians.

Now the education monitoring NGO fears the UN review will “include inadequate recommendations, and [will] likely downplay the extent of hate taught in Unrwa schools”. Impact-se fears that the UN report will not hold a single Unrwa teacher to account.

https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/un-set-to-whitewash-unrwa-report-despite-new-evidence-of-radicalisation-in-gaza-schools-fjwi2tg1