UbonEagle

Fair point Geisha, i suppose if you get it day after ASQ you're still facing the same period on the sidelines.

Then i remembered the ASQ no beer rule also, think i'll be taking the golf clubs to somewhere like mission hills and getting a few rounds in during my week ???? with a cold Singha after

Sorry slightly off topic re the sandbox.

Was due to travel back late Jan but hadn't booked...obviously had planned on 1 night test n go but now iced.

The sandbox idea sounds ok but if going anywhere outside your room i'd be a tad paranoid about getting the virus then testing positive on day 7....stuff of nightmares...particularly if omicrom gets going on the island which it inevitably will.

I think i'll just take a punt and wait until the 4th to see if any change (doubtful) and if not just go the 1wk BKK hotel option in a nice decent sized room.

Got 3mths up my sleeve so time isn't huge factor, and given i did at least 5 by 2wk QTs for work in last 18mths it wont kill me.

Anyone else in the same boat ?

Just hope Cha-Cha is not going on some personal crusade to redeem his reputation after the botched vax rollout and outbreak this year - that is just going to make it harder visiting during the coming year.

Waste of time anyway, Omicron is in and once up and running will go like wildfire, and looking like causing minimal cases of serious illness.

They need to set a clear target - eg in (most of) Australia at 80% double vax no more QT for OS arrivals, no lockdowns etc 

Porbably been written already (im not reading 9 pages of posts) but a complete waste of time, it will flood in thru the porous land borders particularly Myanmar, so why even bother with this charade...idiots

Of course more needs to be done in education and enforcement.

But believe me, you are wasting you energy trying to educate a lot of middle aged to elderly particulary bike riders. They just live in that bubble oblivious to dangers around them and sadly most dont have a lot to lose.

Start with the kids now and you might see some positive change down the track. Repeat offenders confiscate their wheels like many other countries.

Struggling to see how this works - u sit next to covid infected person (not known at time) and go to different hotels and have tests done. 

The following day they get back their positive test, the system then needs to find you as a close contact and get onto you before getting your test and leaving...in LOS i think that would be nigh on impossible. 

Now of course they can find you and drag you back to QT i suppose ?

And as i just read they are already going to rapid test and no overnight hotel, million to one it'll still be an issue in April next year...or the whole border closed again because of Europe/US blowouts...i doubt it but def would be not booking anything months in advance atm

Wife and SIL there 2wks ago, fully open but quite strict on vax compliance. Good quality accommodation availability tight, Bangkokers with coin getting the hell out of dodge for a getaway after the covid year from hell 

Great to see all the positive and humorous posts negating all the doomsday posts about thai gold diggers ive seen here over the years. For me met in oz 20yrs ago and still going strong, first time we met i'd had a few and she brushed me but i soon redeemed myself and rest is history ????

I'd suggest wait it out in the short term, massive % of thai SME go broke in a matter of months...even after they've dropped quite a bit of money gained somewhere into it

think you answered your own question somewhat.

High quality imported pool tiles here are still comparatively cheap v western countries.

The labor price (biggest expense) here is ridicilously low with quality workmanship if you engage the right builder.

And they look kick <deleted> of course, especially with pool lights on 

IMO thai food second only in SE to Vietnamese. Honorable mention to singapore which is really a hybrid of chinese. With thai food its not just the flavours, but also the obsession of the natives i think that enhances the experience. Also i am clearly addicted to the chili hit as i long for something hot with rice after a few days of not having

think in light of recent events like the us/uk/aus nuke sub agreement that china will be desperately looking around for "allies" to back them up...not necessarily in a war context but strategic financial and geographic. lets hope thailand dont sell themselves a bum deal here, they are better aligning with their asean brothers n sisters 

This moron, stupid hysterical media or the medical fraternity who have no reliance on tourist related income in their smug little empires....i dont know who is dumber.

Thailand has 10s of 1000s of cases per day and is never getting back even close to covid zero.

Allowing foreign arrivals with sensible measures, ie test before and on arrival, QT until negative from most countries presents tiny risk in proportion to the country's current caseload.

For gods sake get on with it.

Probably much like in australia and other western countries, hysterical and largely unfounded media over blood clot risks is leading to a rapid surplus of AZ as now limiting to over 60s for example in Aust ....hopefully a windfall for neighbouring SE asian countries in particular 

Nothing wrong with this strategy, lot of talk in australia now about possible upsides of mixing vax types, every chance a mix of these 2 would be far more effective that 2 shots of sinovax. Yes of course would have been better not getting so deep into the sino to start with , but the china ties plus cost and supply issues were always going to play their part in the TH vax strategy...its not like theyre the only country thats @%#$ed this up !

Yep cleaning up rubbish and walking around spraying disinfectant in the air will work wonders lol....morons....and not the only country i've seen this brain dead behaviour.

Pretty obvious that is not the main source of infection spread.

Chin up mate, lot of us in the same boat atm unfortunately....

I am banking on getting vax here in AUS next few months, and hoping fed govt push on with this plan for vaccinated returnees from OS being able to home quarantine which negates this scam of the hotel waiting list.

Either that, or hopefully they get this Singapore travel bubble away in few months also so 2wks there on way home then straight home, probably a test on arrival then self isolate until neg result.

So many simple common sense solutions, but between paranoid politicians and power hungry medical administrators, they are milking this for every drop

Finally they are seeing thru the govt and media fear and loathing campaign, proper 2nd wave slowly being reigned in and the sky hasn't fallen in...

There are multiple commonsense measures that can help facilitate the return of OS traveller's.

Momentum is gathering now, and it'll be the peer pressure of their competitor neighbors like Vietnam beating them to the punch that'll get them off there <deleted> and rolling out the welcome mat

The main driver that'll make them drop the border restrictions will be peer pressure...or fear of losing all that lovely $...Bali allready announcing opening up green zones with no QT etc

Thankfully govts will soon push these medical beaurocrats to the back a bit, they are looking to keep their position of power consolidated for a long while yet. Thankfully $ will talk and common sense will start to prevail

At least now they might come to their senses and open up quarantine free to vaccinated people at least from low risk countries.

And before anyone starts bleating about vaxxed still being able to transmit, look at the numbers for gods sake, if you think a vaxxed person coming from somewhere like oz/nz represents a greater risk than someone walking around right now in Bangkok, u are on drugs

Sure he thought his sense of smell had disappeared from doing something else with his nose...then waits a week to get tested...you can only hope the news report is inaccurate, or talk about dumb and dumber

Hmm i thought Mexico was a veritable basket case.

And yes thailand has done well for a multitude of factors including climate, pop density, health system, lockdowns etc, notwithstanding this 2nd blow up.

Im mean even NZ and Oz, that have been lauded for their response, clearly had the massive advantages of island states, low pop density, 1st world systems...thus i think its impossible to compare them to a landlocked euro country for example.