sumrit

11 minutes ago, Pib said:

Did you contact TW before to have your TW Recipients "tagged" to always use Bangkok Bank as the partner bank? 

 

Trying to figure out here if the SMT coding is only affecting people who did not have their TW Recipients tagged. 

Yes, first contacted them in January and asked for transfer to be tagged. This they did, and also said that tag would apply to all future transfers so there would be no need to contact them every month. 

It seems everybody who has contacted them in the same way in the past has, like me, had no problems until this month.

I will try and contact them later as I've got two more pensions to transfer later this week

Like many others on here I've been using TW to transfer my pensions to my BKK account since January to comply with the new rules and, after contacting TW to request they transfer all payments directly to my BKK account, this has been done, with an FTT code, until this month when the payment went via the Kasikorn bank with 'Interbank Transfer via SMART' shown on my statement.

But, does anybody know, what does 'Interbank Transfer via SMART' actually mean? General opinion on this forum has always suggested that it means 'a local transfer' between Thai banks within Thailand. What type of transfer actually qualifies for that 'Interbank Transfer via SMART' reason on the bank statement? 

I've transferred money from both my Krung Thai account and my Thannachart account to my BKK account both today and in the past and every time it shows as 'Transfer from Account at Other Bank'.  There's no mention of 'Interbank Transfer via SMART' in the reason.

Could the Interbank Transfer via SMART reason mean something like aN International transfer to BKK using the Kasikorn/TMB as a third party bank.

Has anybody actually checked the reason with BKK??

19 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

However, it just frustrates the hell out of me trying to get to grips with this newly implemented rule, and then to get all and everything lined up perfectly and being unable to do so

I understand what you're saying but I think you've confused yourself over the initial process.

When you initially registered you were simply applying to register your address and you shouldnt have inputted your own username and password (that one won't work in the future anyway), you need to wait for them to send you a username/password by email to use like the rest of us have done. Because the new registration application seems to have become popular it can take anything up to three/four weeks for that email to arrive. Then you can update online. Until then you have to use the old system. 

23 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

My retirement extension and multi  re-entry permit is due next week at the new Kalasin offices, and I am concerned as to what they can do if I just take the screenshot showing ' awaiting approval ' and that I have applied for my TM30 without response from them as yet.

 

Ideas anybody?

Registering to file a TM30 on line is a fairly new option. All you have done so far is aply to register your address for the online process. 

Whats wrong with completing a TM30 form and simply taking it to your Immigration Office to file, the same as we (some of us) have done in the Past??

As your extension is due next week, what's difficult about taking a completed form with you and filing the TM30 before submitting the paperwork for your extension. Then you'll have a nice new receipt in your passport anyway.

11 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

On the embassy website. But not on the online application site for a non-o visa.

It does not menton one for being 50 or over at all. See: https://thaievisa.go.th/Home/Family

 

 

Follow the visa and consular services links on the on line website and it takes you to here:

http://www.thaiembassy.org/london/en/services/7742/84508-Non-Immigrant-visas.html

visa options thai embassy london.pdf

14 minutes ago, sandyf said:

You would need to show me where that option appears in the online system. As far as I can see there are no options for Non O regarding retirement, only O-A and O-X.

Maybe you should reconsider your comment on incorrect posts.

I'd already posted this on page 20 of this thread.

http://www.thaiembassy.org/london/en/services/7742/84508-Non-Immigrant-visas.html

visa options thai embassy london.pdf

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

If you have not been asked for a TM30 report before when you returned from a trip out of the country I would not worry about it. Just because some other offices are now asking for it does not mean your office has changed.

Si Racha don't tell you in advance that you need to file a TM30 on your return from a trip out of the country unless you specifically ask them, but, if you ask they will tell you they do require it.

After asking, when I returned from a month in the UK last year I went to file my TM30 and had no problem, but there were a lot of people, who were there at the same time, being fined for non/late filing.

I know of two other people who have been told/done the same a Si Racha.

1 hour ago, thaibry said:

It was, and still is a 'O' visa based on receipt of State Pension for the purpose of visiting Thailand for up to 90 days.

The difference is that it is that it can no longer be used for multiple entries.

Please read carefully before making incorrect posts.



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That's right. If you want long term and multiple entries you use the non O to get a one year extension and a multi re-entry permit.  

35 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:

1 hour ago, sumrit said:

A non o VISA  is for a person to visit family and people over 65 as an entry into Thailand and the correct visa to convert into a one year extension.

Where did you see that? I never heard of a visa rules with a "65 yo" criteria ??

And no mention on that on the Non-O page of the new website :  https://www.thaievisa.go.th/Home/Family

http://www.thaiembassy.org/london/en/services/7742/84508-Non-Immigrant-visas.html

I put 65 because that was when we all used to get our state pension. Obviously since the state retirement age now increases so will the qualifying age for a non O visa.????

visa options thai embassy london.pdf

7 minutes ago, wobalt said:

Depends on the country and type of visa (I.e. visit, holiday or business)

Of course it does, but the person I was replying to was from the UK????

9 minutes ago, GeorgeCross said:

reading between the lines and from what i've picked up from other sources/threads i'd say non-o me's of all types will eventually be phased out so immigration can move all long stayers to extensions plus re-entry permits.

That's what Immigration has been saying for a long, long time.

Everybody is welcome.........so long as you obtain and use the correct visa/extension 

21 minutes ago, thaibry said:

But...... I don't want an extension, I don't want to live permanently in Thailand. I want to visit here infrequently for up to 90 days during the western winter and be able to travel to other SE Asian countries as side trips. An multi entry 'O' based on receipt of State Pension was perfect and as yet I can't see an alternative.

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Tourist visa's for you then.

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The subject is Non Imm O multi entry visas.

A non o VISA  is for a person to visit family and people over 65 as an entry into Thailand and the correct visa to convert into a one year extension.

Although issued to most people of any age in the past (whether they actually qualified or not) it was never designed to be used as a type of longer term tourist visa.

8 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

What restrictions, my GF has been too the U.K. twice recently, she applied for Visa, I sponsored her. Arrived in the U.K. passed  through Border Control, no TM28/30, no 90 Day Reporting, left the U.K. with no need to pass through Border Control again. 

My wife has been many times over the last 25 years.

Off the top of my head but there are many more.

• Initial visa cost
• proof of relationship
• detailed information about the sponsor
• Proof of adequate funds to live on
• proof of address
• not allowed to work
• itinery for the holiday (sometimes)
• medical care costs

1 minute ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

Why would the original be any different from a photcopy or one that is sent digitally? Who knows, indeed.

If you've been married for several years you sometime have to get an updated document from the Amphur to prove you're still married. The original on ita own is sometimes not enough. (when applying for an extension based on marriage for example)

2 minutes ago, thaibry said:

Could you please explain further. I was unaware that a visa could be obtained in Thailand.

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You get a SE  non O then, during the last 30 days of its validity you convert it to a one year extension at immigration.

3 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

Providing you are in a position to tie up 800/400k in a Thai Bank for the rest of your life. 

 

OR transfer enough money into Thailand each month to pay for adequate living expenses. 40k baht pm for the example we're talking about who's married

2 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

But you don't know what will be required next year, living in a state of limbo...

Plus you can't work to support your family ie in a family restaurant (yes you can jump through hoops to get a work permit, but not to do any job restricted for Thais)

Plus you will never be the owner of the land you (probably) bought for the family to live on.

 

It's not the fairest system in the world and it definitely violates the family rights of 1000s

Look at the restrictions people have on a temporary (tourist type) visa when going to the UK then tell Thailand is worse (or more expensive)

3 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Nice of them to allow you to spend another 60 days with your wife and family, at a price. And too bad if you have to travel hundreds of kilometres to an immigration office. And for what? Why?

You can stay for a year if you get the correct visa/extension, then can repeat/renew immediately. 

Its your choice not to.

13 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Do you need a TM 30 if you own your own house?

Basically, and legally, you need an up to date TM30 to be filed if you're simply staying in Thailand.

Confusion comes because, at the moment, not every office is insisting on it.

2 hours ago, BobBKK said:

Bully for you. Many don't have that experience. My agent does my 90 day reporting too.

Sounds great. Do you have to take and collect your passport to/from your agent for him to do your 90 day report or does he do the fetching and carrying as well? ????

6 minutes ago, JJ Madcow said:

So next time, It is the other females i have to deal with, That do Retirement Extension, Can only hope the more kind.

I have a new passport, And a new NoN O Visa, So hope Immigration is "happy" next time..

Thanks for the info.

I'm changing to a marriage extension next time but have had a retirement extension for many years now. The lady doing the retirement extensions is fine, no problems, but a little abrupt in the way she talks in English.

I spoke to the lady responsible for marriage extensions a few days ago (regarding a print problem in my bank book) and she seemed fine and very patient when explaining things. Time will tell though.

2 minutes ago, BritTim said:

That is a feasible option for people who can arrange a three month visit to see their family, or who can conveniently return for a month at the right time to apply for the extension. For many, it is simply not going to work. The best workaround for some (if multi entry Non O is discontinued everywhere) is going to be a 10,000 baht, 2-day detour via somewhere like Ho Chi Minh City before each visit to see their family.

With a further 60 day extension option to visit family that's a three month window to organise an extension. That's a feesable amount of time. 

33 minutes ago, mngmn said:

But only if you plan to be in Thailand on the anniversary of your extension to renew it. Not to mention the endless hoops to jump though dealing with Thai immigration.

 

As a frequent traveller, I found the ME Non Immigrant O to be the perfect solution. Not a disaster for me as I have left Thailand and will simply spend less time (and money) there when I return to visit family.

If you get a SE non O, you then get a one year extension and that give you a total of 15 months travelling to and from Thailand. If you're in Thailand near the end of that period you renew your extension. If not, you just get a new SE non O and repeat the process.

2 minutes ago, JJ Madcow said:

I use Si Rachi Immigration 3 years for Married-Extension.
That be very hard, As one of the 2 female doing them are not nice.

What do you mean by 'very hard'? What problems did you have?

I know some 15 years ago they used to tell people wanting marriage extensions to go to Jomtien. They only wanted to do the 'easier' retirement extensions at Si Racha.

4 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

Great!  agencies know the paperwork, double check, know the IO officers, are normally on-time and not that expensive. Used one for years and never regretted it for a nano second. I go once a year, meet the agents staff, in and out in under an hour. 

The paperwork is simple to understand. I go to immigration once a year, present my retirement extension application directly to the IO and am out in less than an hour. My expenses are zero. I personally have always been happy with that system.????

Of course next year will change slightly because I will change to an extension based on marriage and understand there's also a one month 'under consideration' period to include. I thought of asking  an agent if using them would make the one month wait more bearable but, apparently, they don't get involved with marriage extensions, it's too complex for them to fiddle.