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I live in Chonburi (the city) but for many years went to Jomtien for my extensions and Si Racha for my 90 day reports. Si Racha is much closer

In February, at Jomtien (it was extremely busy) at first they started to process my extension, but then saw my 90 day slip from Si Racha and said I should go to there. When I pointed out I'd been coming to Jomtien for years they just said new rules but I got the impression it was just because they were so busy.

So I went to Si Racha. Very quiet there and was seen straight away. All completed very quickly and my passport was stamped and given back to me straight away. No having to go back to collect it like we have to in Jomtien.

I've no idea whether it really is area dependant or that all the functions at both offices are now the same because both offices are part of Chonburi immigration. I do know that, in the past, you had to use Jomtien for certain things. For example Si Racha were stopped from issuing Residence certificates about 3-4 years ago. You had to go to Jomtien for that. 

1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

My latest 90 day report slip still has no mention of house masters or landlords, only refers to the foreigner having to report within 24 hours.

What office do you go to? My 90 day reports don't  have that stamped on them.

49 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Shh, you might spoil a good thing for us using Jomtiem. (CW sounds like a nightmare). Don't stir the pot please!

If It's working at CW your 'good thing' won't last long. You can bet Jomtien won't be far behind.

2 hours ago, khaepmu said:

I have never had to submit a TM 30. They have never asked me. I have been doing work visas both in Jomthien and Sri Ratcha. I dutifully do my 90 day report on time.

I also do my extensions and 90 day reports at S Racha. Previously I had never completed a TM30 but, with needing to go to the UK for four weeks last year (and seeing a few reports of people being fined for not filing a TM30 here on TV). I went to ask them at Si Racha Immigration. They said yes, it would be enforced in the future for people returning to Thailand after trips abroad. I did mine when I returned and the 'TM30' office, outside at the back of the main office, was filled to overflowing with people of various nationalities being sent there and fined for non/late TM30 reports.

As others have said, this is a 40 year old law and, just because it hasn't been enforced until relatively recently, it's still a requirement that appears to now need to be completed. 

It's not difficult, it's a five minute job, so just do it or accept the fine without complaining. 

2 hours ago, rkidlad said:

I’m married and am registered officially as living in my missus’ condo. Last time I returned to Thailand from abroad was the end of March this year. I just competed a successful 90 day report last Friday (14th June). Should I expect a fine when I renew my yearly extension in Bangkok in November? 

Not if you do a TM30 report correctly. Whats so difficult about doing one.

1 hour ago, allen303 said:

Put 810,000 in bank, wife goes a month prior to new IO office and checks all forms, good to go, they said can do letter a few days before and also update bank book. Go to IO with letter from bank, nice little lady says everything good but need to have a deposit today. She tells us closes bank and off we go.

 

We deposit 100 and they update the bank book. However, when they update it prints over the 810,000. So, they make a new bank book.

can I ask, when they gave you a new bank book did they print all transactions from the old book into the new book or just the transactions relevant to your 810k deposit and immigration requirements? 

A similar 'over printing' problem occurred in my bank book yesterday when I updated it. Some of the transactions from the current month have been printed on top of the previous months ones, making them unreadable, especially the important 'FTT' ones. 

31 minutes ago, asiaexpat said:

I only submitted a copy of my Yellow Book at my recent extension renewal at CW. Not asked for anything from wife.

Agree, I only supplied my yellow book in Si Racha, Chonburi, there was no need to supply any documents from my wife and she didn't need to be with me.

14 minutes ago, Sunderland said:

That is fine and understood.

Following on from that, what is a foreigner supposed to do when the owner refuses to provide the documentation that immigration requires? Should the possessor (person leasing a property) then report the owner to the police if the immigration officials insist on having the required documentation such as I.D. card, papers showing ownership of the property, etc.? 

Don't know if it's acceptable in all Immigration Offices but, as I understand it, the possessor (person leasing a property) can just supply a copy of the rental agreement if the owner is either unable or refuses to supply his/her documents then file the TM30 as the possessor themselves.

5 minutes ago, bronzedude said:

I was under the impression that a person could use a combination of existing money in the bank and a monthly income source.

Only an option with an extension based on retirement. Not an option with an extension based on marriage.

1 minute ago, asiaexpat said:

Seems strange since the ID lacks all the necessary information. I have attempted to check in with the Pink ID many times and always told no, passport only.

You obviously go to different hotels to me. 555555

6 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Didn't realize that, so no way to link to you and TM30 requirement? Or TM30  requirements do not apply?

Not that I'm aware of. I did ask at one resort in Rayong about eighteen months ago, where the owner's husband was British. He told me they only had instructions to record passports, there was no option for them to record pink ID cards.

1 minute ago, jacko45k said:

Which has your passport number clearly written on it. Two factors, does the hotel do the TM30 report? If not, no issue. Secondly, does your local IO require it? Don't you use Jomtiem, who do not?

Only if you use your passport and a residence certificate when applying for your Driving Licence.

If you use your pink ID card and Yellow book your Thai ID number replaces your passport number on your DL.

4 hours ago, Pattaya46 said:

When ?

Many things were possible years ago that are no more possible nowadays... 

Certainly not many years ago. Using a yellow book and pink ID card to open a bank account certainly IS possible today.

Krung Thai account was opened in August 2017, almost two years ago.

Thanachart account opened in December 2017, just eighteen months ago.

With both of these accounts, because I just used my pink ID card and Yellow book to open them (the same way a Thai National would), my name in the bank books is written in Thai (copied from those documents).

With the Kasikorn account that I've had for about fifteen years I used my passport and a residency certificate to open it and my name is written in English.

Because of the recent changes to the income method when applying for an extension, I also opened a Bangkok bank account five months ago, in January 2019, and for convenience I needed to use a letter from the British Embassy with my details included. Again, because my details were in English my name in the Bank book is written in English. 

3 hours ago, OJAS said:

If my understanding is correct, though, one crucial piece of information that the pink ID card doesn't include is the expiry date of one's current permission to stay in Thailand (although the card does have an expiry date, I gather that this is a certain number of years after it was issued and is therefore not based on the expiry of one's current permission to stay).

 

So, in such circumstances, how do the hotels you use cope without this little piece of detail for their TM30-style notifications to Immigration? Or might they (and Immigration) simply not care?

Which is why I suggested you're not added to the TM30 report when checking in to a hotel using a pink ID card.

Like the Thai ID, the pink ID card must be renewed every six years but the next ID card issued after reaching 64 years of age is valid for life (not renewed after you reach seventy years of age).

On 6/10/2019 at 3:10 PM, Neeranam said:

Are you saying that you opened s bank account without a passport? I think that is impossible.

Definitely NOT impossible. I've done it twice.

I opened one at Krung Thai with just my yellow book as proof of ADDRESS and my pink ID card as proof of ID. Didn't need or even have my passport with me. Did the same at Thanachart. Both banks branches were in Central Plaza Chonburi.

17 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Going to immigration ever 6 years is a problem for some.

The yellow book is needed if you go for citizenship, otherwise forget it.

Also needed to get a pink ID card.

3 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

The hotel can't submit a TM30 without Passport details,

And that's why I originally said in post 53 that I always use  my ID card instead of my passport.

8 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

In Bangkok, yes, always insist on Passport.

Outside of Bangkok some have never asked for any ID whatsoever.

Since I've had a pink ID card I've stayed in various hotels (10+) all over Thailand, but only once in Bangkok. I never carry my passport but every hotel always asks for it initially. I simply say I haven't got it with me and offer my ID card instead. It's never been refused, or even questioned.

I've never tried flying domestically using my ID card so can't comment on any Airport restrictions.

48 minutes ago, jonclark said:

I have used my pink ID card for hotels check ins (that one surprised me too!),

I always use my pink ID card when checking into hotels. As far as I'm aware, by not using your passport, you're not added to the TM30 report then.

36 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

Some IO's insist the foreign income comes from Pensions.

 

What's to prevent the OP getting a Non Imm O ME based on marriage from the Thai Consulate in Savannakhet. No financials required. Perhaps not ideal, but it would resolve his situation.

Would he able to have a work permit doing this?

What office was this???

With the income based method I think practically all of us (at least from the UK) rely on multiple income sources to reach the income required for our extensions, whether they be extensions based on marriage or retirement. Very few of us will receive a pension (income) of more than 40/65k baht pm from a single source.

The first hotel would add you to their TM30 report when you initially arrive then your 'main' hotel would update your address with their TM30 report when you check in there anyway so it's up yo you what you put on your TM6 arrival card.

On 6/15/2019 at 12:58 AM, Issannative said:

Ya if you have a UK licence, then they will give you a Thai one, no practical or theory test. Just sit the vid. Bus as me and the misses were told at the local driving tambian only for UK no others.

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Not true, your licence must either be written in English or have a certified English translation to get a Thai licence without having to pass the Thai theory and practical tests.

My mate just had to get his Swedish licence translated into English to get his Thai licence without doing any theory/practical tests........... apart from the eyesight/reaction/perception tests of course,

1 hour ago, StevieAus said:

That may be the case where you live but in Chiang Mai Province if you use the Yellow House Book and or the Pink ID card they will only issue the license for two years.

I renewed my recently and had to obtain the certificate from Immigration.

Strangely enough as they did last time the license was issued for six years, yet they will accept the above documents for registering a new car in lieu of the Immigration certificate.

I decided years ago to go with the flow and avoid the stress as you will never win.

What type of permission of stay were you using when you recently renewed your DL and what document were you using for ID?

29 minutes ago, hereforgood said:

just another case of different places making up different rules. I am in Pattaya and have opened a BB Account and a Kbank account no issues and never was a yellow book mentioned

Of course you have, its not vital you have a yellow book and pink ID card but it's much quicker, easier and efficient to open a bank account if you do have and use them.