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Thanks for the report Joe. Good to see that the current topics (TM30  and Finance Requirements ) were not a problem. More proof that some people seem to be worrying unnecessarily. Must remember to tell the wife to take the original marriage certificate though ????

1 minute ago, Issanman said:

Last week I went into my TW account and selected my Bangkok Bank account as my primary account for receiving THB.

I then setup a test transfer of $200 and was asked the reason for the transfer. I selected "Funds for long term stay in Thailand" as the reason.

The transfer showed up a couple of days later as an international transfer, no problem.

I have not called or emailed TransferWise.

I've just done the same this morning. I transfered two of my pensions at 6:45 this morning using the "Funds for long term stay in Thailand" as the reason. I had an email confirming the money had been sent two hours later with the link to the PDF showing it been sent directly to my Bangkok bank (which of course means an FTT coding). It will be credited to my BKKB account at around 2:00 this afternoon as usual. Just seven hours to complete the transfer.

On 7/14/2019 at 2:01 PM, snowballthecat said:

This is turning pathetic!  one has to do SWIFT because Immigration do not like Transferwise?

Everyday is a new one!

Immigration have been perfectly happy with all TW documents supplied for extensions, both retirement and marriage.

Please show a link to any report that says Immigration don't like Transferwise.

There hasn't been one single reported extension rejection due to TW transfers. There have been several reports of Immigration perfectly happy with TW documented transfers, even ones that have been coded SMT (local transfer) in peoples bankbooks, and have accepted them without question.

No need to lose money doing Swift.

5 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

Your waiting for a user ID and password from Sriracha Immigration, who appear to have an issue with registering other than Hoteliers or private households renting to foreigners as reported by the OP.

 

Perhaps Sriracha Immigration missed the local TV and press coverage a couple of months ago advising all private housing dwellers they must report foreigners (regardless of renting or otherwise), or perhaps they don't realise the online TM30 site has been updated to allow the individuals to file online, or they've missed the instructions from Lt-Gen Sompong Chingduang.

 

Whichever it's an issue you'll have to take up with them.

Finally we're on the same page. This is exactly why I made my first post. 

I already know I have to go to Si Racha immigration but I specifically asked if anybody else from the Si Racha area had received an online username/password to get some background information before visiting them in person.

1 hour ago, schlemmi said:

How can you know that. Did you make the software or do work at the immigration so you may know the internals. Or its just your feeling?

Different Immigration Offices have different interpretations but, for many of them:

If you've filed a TM30 at your permanent residence that's even more permanent than booking and paying for a hotel room for a few weeks.

If you then go from your permanent residence and stay in a hotel in another area that hotel files a TM30 which replaces the one you had previously filed from your home. When you subsequently visit you local Immigration Office THEY HAVE THE HOTEL YOU STAYED AT as your most recent TM30 on file. You are liable to be fined for not updating your TM30.

It's the same process as you moving hotels. The Hotel 1 TM30 is removed and replaced by the subsequent one you checked into. 

2 hours ago, schlemmi said:

Just a simple example. If i woul visit thailand and stay at a hotel for two month. I check in and pay the bill in advanve. The hotel files the tm30 to inform the immigration about my arrival. I stay there a couple of days and found i shuld travel around a bit. Do so and stay at different hotels and return to the one i payed for two month already anf still registerd as guest. A short while later i start travelling again but now out out of thailand and returning to the same hotrl as before where iam still registered  as guest.

Homany tm30 will the hotel do. Howml many tm30 has the hotel to do?

Problem with that idea is that as soon as you go to 'hotel 2' they will file a new TM30 which take preference over 'hotel 1'. That process will continue for hotels 3,4,5 etc. You might still be registered as a guest in hotel 1 but as far as the current TM30's go hotel 1 is now part of the TM30 history, it's not where you're currently registered as staying, the last hotel you registered at is. 

6 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

I was aware before entering Thailand of the Immigration requirements bestowed on foreigners and it's not a question of whether I agree or disagree, but whether the negatives of all these reporting requirements out ways the advantages of the positives of staying in Thailand.

I think we have all (eventually) found out the requirements after coming to Thailand, even the more obscure and unused ones like the TM30.

I've lived here for over fifteen years and, although I was aware of the TM30, TM28 among others, soon after arriving (and I have always had the forms stored on my laptop) they were never asked for by immigration in the past. Even when I applied for my yellow book and pink ID card they weren't needed. They only came to the fore about 3-4 years ago and I have no problem with conforming fully with the requirements. 

What's annoying is Immigration's inability to make the system easily accessible to all that might need to use it. 

12 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

I appreciate your frustration, but the option to file by mail whilst waiting is another option.

I do understand that, as I'm sure others do as well. But as an example of our situation this year:

When my daughter and family came in April, they were only here for ten days and visited Korat and Bangkok as well as stopping at our house. That meant we had to spend three mornings out of the ten in Si Racha immigration. Not ideal when they're only on a short Trip.

As I've got a friend and both my sons coming in individual trips over the next few months doing on line TM30's each time would be a lot more practical.

I did spend time checking things out, then did the on line application in June, which I thought would give plenty of time to complete.

But my mate arrives in just over a week and will spend time visiting family with his wife as well as staying with us in between. It will probably mean 5-6 visits over the month to immigration just to file his stays with us. On line would take five minutes. 

Just now, Tanoshi said:

It's a two part process.

It would be pointless sending a user ID and password to an incorrect email address, so it sends an email to firstly confirm your correct email address in the first place.

 

The issue of the user ID and password is a manual operation, not automatic.

I know it's a two part process. As I said in my first post I did receive and acknowledge the first email. As I understand it from comments by applicants on previous threads, if the first email is not acknowledged, the application is aborted so, again, the status page wouldn't show 'waiting for Approval' would it.

1 minute ago, Tanoshi said:

Have you checked your spam folder.

If the username/password had been issue, regardless of the folder the email went to, it wouldn't still say 'waiting for approval' in the status section of the online webpage.????  

1 minute ago, Tanoshi said:

I assume you read the opening post from the OP.

It appears Siracha is under the impression only Hoteliers and private residences renting to foreigners can register. They don't appear to be aware the online TM30 site now allows individuals to register, even foreigners.

Yes, of course I read the opening post, but the on line application doesn't discriminate between an applicant who is renting to a foreigner and one who isn't so, assuming it's Si Racha who's actually issuing the username/passwords, they wouldn't know the difference from the application itself would they.

and another link to our on line application. 

Has anybody from the Si Racha, Chonburi area received a username and password yet?

We applied towards the end of June and received the email confirmation email within a few minutes of doing the application, but since then nothing. When I go on to the TM30 website it says 'waiting for approval', with another link saying 'Registration requires Immigration officer's approval within 7 days (working hour)' and another link to our on line application.

1 hour ago, 007 RED said:

I don't know which bank @Genericnic uses, but my bank is Bangkok Bank HQ and I arranged with them about 4 months ago to send me a notification email when funds (GBP) have been credited to my Foreign Currency Deposit Account.

 

When I registered for this service I noted that there were 2 notification options, namely; SMS or email.  I opted for email notification.  As previously mentioned this service is FREE.

 

It took them about 2 months to activate my request, so I've only been getting email notification from them for the past 2 months.  I just expected a very basic email stating that they have received funds which have been credited to my account, so I was very surprised by the amount of detail which they actually provided in their email.

 

I have attached a screen shot of a recent email from Bangkok Bank and as you will see it not only has the Credit Advice information in the main text body, but there is also a pdf file attached (just above the bank logo) which is a direct copy of Credit Advice Note that the bank provided to me on Monday together with the letter for Immigration. 

 

The bonus of the pdf is that I can save it in my Immigration/bank file ready for next year.

 

 

 

Thanks for the Info. Its something else we can arrange from BKKB automatically to cross reference our monthly transfers. 

Thanks for your report. It seems that the only problem you and others have had is obtaining the correct documentation from the bank, Immigration have been no problem at all.

1 minute ago, Issanman said:

Just as a follow-up to this post, I did receive my TransferWise test transfer today and it did show up in my Bangkok Bank account as an international transfer.

Hopefully, they have got this problem fixed.

 

Thanks for the update. Just out of interest, had you previously contacted TW in the past to request your transfers be routes via their BKKB partnership as a lot of us have done? 

3 minutes ago, Lemonltr said:

The OP stated that he will need 12 International transfers next year. Hope not. I will apply for my extension shortly with over 65k deposited FFT since and including January., but after that I intended just to bring in what I needed and when I needed then 2/3 months prior to next year's extension bring my bank balance up to 80k. Surely that's acceptable? 

This year, if using the income method, immigration have applied flexibility on the number of transfers along as you have transferred at least 65k each month because it's impossible to do a full 12 months.

Starting January 2020 you must transfer a minimum of 65k each and every month for the full twelve months.

22 minutes ago, Henryford said:

13 hours ago, Moonlover said:

21 TransferWise remittances were accepted by the IO at Sakon Nakhon last week. Not one of them had a foreign remittance code.

 

The IO was quite satisfied with the transaction slips, all linked to the bank account entries.

 

And apparently, I wasn't the first one. The IO was well aware of T/W.

Maybe so but does this GUARANTEE that every IO will accept them in 2020? Are you willing to bet your visa on that?

Every single one has accepted them so far. Unless you know different. Have any IO's anywhere refused an extension specifically because they won't accept TW transfers? 

Thanks for the update. Another success using the income method from another Immigration Office.

6 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

21 TransferWise remittances were accepted by the IO at Sakon Nakhon last week. Not one of them had a foreign remittance code.

 

The IO was quite satisfied with the transaction slips, all linked to the bank account entries.

 

And apparently, I wasn't the first one. The IO was well aware of T/W.

Thanks for the update. Good to know Immigration are well aware of the situation.

1 minute ago, from the home of CC said:

yes, I saw that. Is it working?   

Haven't tried it yet but the post I saw elsewhere says it is.

I've got two pensions to transfer this Friday so I'll try then and post the result.

8 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

Maybe all the monthly phone calls you guys are making for confirmation will have the positive effect of  pushing TW to ensure correct routing for customer needs are met. They must realize people will go elsewhere with their business, if I owned the company I'd be paying attention to those calls.

Changes already in place. see post 6.

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Immigration officers have been specifically instructed just THIS YEAR to be lenient on the monthly foreign transfers, because of it being a new requirement.

That instruction referred to 'people having less that the normal 12 monthly transfers because the rules only changed in January but some would need to apply for their extension just six months later, from the 1st July' as well you know. It might be impossible to supply 12 months transfers during the first year and that was why the leniency clause was added and why it would only apply to this year.

Anyway it's up to you what you think, it's no skin off my nose. I still find it very strange that you could be correct yet there has not been one single refusal in every Immigration Office in the whole of Thailand on the grounds of lack of proof as to the source of transfers. NOT ONE SINGLE REFUSAL ANYWHERE UP TIL NOW.

3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

If memory serves, those that I've seen of that nature, a very few, all seemed to involve outlying small Immigration offices, and not any of them that I can recall involved BKK CW...

I do know that at least one successful extension was obtained in CM using TW transfers, which IS a larger office. All of his transfers were coded FTT bar one, which was routed via Kasikorn and coded SMT. He got a Credit Advice Receipt from Kasikorn for that transfer. That was accepted by CM Immigration without any problem.

Can't say whether all the successful extensions were supplied at 'small outlying immigration offices' BUT what I can say is CW in BKK is the largest office that deals with more foreigner's extensions than anywhere else in the country and there have been NO REPORTS of any extensions being refused on the grounds of TW (OR ANY OTHER) transfers not being an acceptable source, whether coded FTT, SMT or anything else.

So, either some have been refused but every one of those people have never heard of Thai Visa so haven't posted on here, OR every application (from UK, US and AU citizens) using the monthly income method Have been successful, OR thirdly, of course, nobody has applied at CW since the 1st July.

Up to you to decide which is more likely ????.

1 minute ago, dayo202 said:

Coversion in a immigration here in Thailand  ?

Yes, but don't use a (dodgy) Pattaya agent next time. ????