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That's very clear now, pretend to negotiate but demand unacceptable terms because they do not want a deal...Gove has let the cat out of the bag...The government is now "working on the assumption" of a no-deal Brexit, Michael Gove has said.
Mr Gove said his team still aimed to come to an agreement with Brussels but, writing in the Sunday Times, he added: "No deal is now a very real prospect."
The prime minister has made Mr Gove responsible for preparing for no-deal.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49141375
Gove role is fiscally in charge, I expect the situation on anything will be fluid right up until midnight of 31st Oct.
That's how Brussels works, Boris knows the EU system well too having previously worked there.
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It was the British who wanted the backstop in the first place.
Plonker Boris don't seem to understand this.
If he and his muppets had voted for the deal months ago UK would be out by now.
Not strictly true.
Talking to friends, family & business contacts.....May betrayed DUP with backstop thus the WA being rightly overwhelmingly being rejected.
The deal was not a clean EU break, it was a classed as a surrender document, Brussels drafted to obviously benefit the EU and penalise and DETER others from following the UK (which was highly unlikely anyway).
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I'd have agreed with that analysis however Brussels continue on it's hardball WA refusal tactics, giving no political or legal status, meanwhile the EU releases it's No Deal white paper.Nah, the EU won't let it happen.
Makes interesting reading, flights continue, visa free movement for holidays & business for a 12 month buffer period. However the EU says the WA deal is far better than a no deal situation.
Now, they WOULD say that wouldn't they.
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I wouldn’t believe anything that PMTM says at the moment.
She’s probably & equally the worst PM to date alongside that Blair twunt.
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The minister who should resign on December 12th is May. Hopefully her replacement will bring some honesty and competance back to the UK government.
Your being rather optimistic however its policy change not Prime Minister change that’s what’s needed at the moment.
May will go in 2019 that’s almost certain, however I do agree with the earlier post that British politics is broken, far too many hypocrites & appeasers.
Labour are equally a shower of Shiote, with Starmer & McConnell even more dangerous than Jeremy, I never thought I say that.
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The minister who should resign on December 12th is May. Hopefully her replacement will bring some honesty and competance back to the UK government.
Your being rather optimistic however its policy change not Prime Minister change that’s what’s needed at the moment.
May will go in 2019 that’s almost certain, however I do agree with the earlier post that British politics is broken, far too many hypocrites & appeasers.
Labour are equally a shower of Shiote, with Starmer & McConnell even more dangerous than Jeremy, I never thought I say that.
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Not give the UK the deal the UK desperately needs.
Or are you still convinced the UK is holding all the aces here?
Far more convinced the EU doesn't hold the cards except it thinks it does.
As for desperately needed deal, remind me of the deficit versus surplus situation?
The primary flaw is Theresa May, she's attempting to be nice & diplomatic, instead she needs the attitude, drive & act like a ex-wife in a divorce settlement & being a relentless pain in the ass.
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I presume nobody has heard yet that the DUP are currently supporting a Eurosceptic amendment to make any NI backstop illegal.
Source: Twitter
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Excuse the link, however read at leisure.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2018/10/conservative-mps-fear-theresa-may-isn-t-being-straight-them-they-re-right
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Whats the global' population again?500 million people versus 60 million people. Yes, more people.
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Few cares what happens to the UK. More people care what happens to the EU.
More people?
Only if your a MS.
The rest of the world couldn’t give a toss if it’s no direct impact.
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This topic is becoming boring. This is Thailand where we live. Who cares about what happens to the UK? They voted to leave the EU so whether they make a deal or not it is not much interest to us.
Not sure you really thought this post post through, even proof reading would have raised alarm bells.
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Vettel's aggressive style was his downfall with Verstappen on this race.
Congratulations to all on the podium on the Japanese GP.
Ricardo 15-4th, well done that man!
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Firstly, well done for receiving a reply.I'm not here to brag.. oh heck I am! [emoji1] I just asked Damon Hill on twitter if the F1 champs have a secret handshake when they meet.
His answer
DH is one of the sensible chuckle folks on twitter, who don't always take things too seriously. Worth of following.
Perhaps the drivers detox in this secret location too ;-)
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Lewis Hamilton copes with rain conditions better than nearly most other drivers judging by past evidence.
Non of them if it rains heavy.
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I think everybody did not enjoy that win...
Least of all Lewis, no jumping on the car, no crowd surfing the mechanics, very subdued finish.
Would have liked to have seen Lewis win without team orders which I think would have been the most likely outcome.
I was suspicious Lewis went wide in Q3 on purpose to let Valtteri take pole.
I hope Valtteri will collect at least two wins out of the next five races.
At least the cars did not get scratched...
I’ve not caught up & seen the whole race however the podium mood & post race clearly showed unease at Mercedes team orders, I do have sympathy for Bottas & I’ve utter respect for the guy and his composure in Moscow.
Unfortunately, this is F1 & it’s unlikely to change anytime soon.
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Great win for Lewis Hamilton with 50 points clear with 5 races remaining.
Challenging day for all.
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Hence my 'dominance' term ;-)They always listen. The BDI run the place.
I noticed on Twitter earlier (VIA an MEP) that the EU plan on offering a Canada super + deal to May seeing as Chequers has been rejected by the EU.
Another point, Brussels must be getting really itchy & worried too, which might explain why it's meeting Jeremy Corbyn again, especially after Labours recent speech with Starmer leadership bid in guise of his Brexit speech.
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Germany's BDI views are very significant, as the two powers at play are the two dominant neighbours of Germany & France et al.
People keep talking about the "EU" as if it's some egalitarian brotherhood of nations. It isn't - it's German industry subsidising agriculture (originally inefficient French agriculture of course). It still is - and now the BDI have spoken. Without the BDI there is no EU.
When did we hear "Greek/Portuguese (add you own from the 27) xyz producers demand blah blah blah from the UK"?
And by the way, I'm not knocking Germany at all (or Greece or Portugal): I admire German investment in core skills; I admire Germany's ability over the last 30 years to get all sections of society on board.
I'm glad the BDI have spoken - as I commented a few weeks ago more than once - the combination of potential German export losses (to the UK) plus "divorce payments" is going to breathe some reality into the late stages of negotiation.
I also agree reference the remaining MS industries, manufacturing and business contributions however many remain rather disappointly mute.
Lobbying & pressure groups from the EU's broader spectrum are all equally effected in some form. I certainly hope Brussels listens.
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That's a very poor & incorrect comparison & you know it.The UK, twinned with Greece and Italy:
Euro [emoji41]
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Lala land is far more appropriate than any Anti Brexit remainers mindset.That was clear from the beginning on. Everyone told you so, yet still you’re coming back with the same ridiculous proposals wasting everyone’s time.
Thank you for your concern, it's duly noted.
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Wrong! The EU wants a deal. The UK knows about all the possible options. These options are clear since the UK triggered article 50.
The UK politicians and especially the politicians in the government can't make up their mind which of the realistic options they want.
It seems many of them want the cake and eat it - that is unrealistic. It's impossible. It can't happen and won't happen.
Don't blame the EU because the UK politicians don't know what they want.
They wanted Brexit, but they had obviously no idea what it means. And they are still confused and blame the EU - two years later.
They EU ‘only’ wants a deal on its terms, to protect itself from further incompetent backlash, safeguard Dublin & most important of all deter others considering the same route as the U.K.
The EU despises challenges to its autocratic authoritarian attitude, look at Greece, Italy & the V4. What the EU does after the U.K. leaves it’s up to them & its MS. GB will continue being a neighbour however from a political prospective the U.K. will be independent.
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Value, integrity and respect will always be a mutual preference of course.March 2019 UK and EU will have same values, as we always had.
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UK politicians are accountable, I doubt anyone would summarise Brexit as playing silly games.Yes, mostly.Oh well never mind, it'll soon be March 2019 complete with transition.
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UK PM Johnson tells EU: ditch backstop or face no-deal Brexit
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HMG will not reinstate a Hard Border, neither will Dublin as it’s been made clear by Leo despite all the waffle, spin and threats. The WA backstop is purely a EU insurance policy (politically linked to the GFA imo ) as it gives ‘leverage’ & most importantly power, which Brussels craves.
Only Brussels is insisting on a nil required hard border, with Germany preparing a significant fiscal package for ROI for direct impact of possibility of no deal.....
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