sedeflonga

Its all just a showoff and to tell evertone:

STAY AWAY FROM OUR HONEYPOT!@ :horse:

If those perpetrators would always get punished when they 'play Rambo in LoS', I am pretty sure the next time they will think twice about it.

Wasn't there a scam with King Power before where Farangs were being falsely accused - dragged off to some remote hotels threaten etc etc unless they handed over considerable sums of money - sounds a lot like this again.

Just what I thought when I read the headlines....

Zzzz

I assume that most British citizens move to Thailand because they do not want to get tracked by their government.

I just thought that too LOL. I wonder why they need that. I am registered at my embassy and updated every time I get

a new passport. Big brother is watching =)

I don't think it's a heavy sentence at all. If a Thai that's caught with large amounts of money, drugs, guns, admits he's a big time dealer, and why have the guns? only gets 5 years and probably less with "confessing" more, where as these people acted in cold blooded murder, get their sentenced reduced by admitting the crime. The crime is the a crime, why is the sentence reduced for admitting it? I do understand that 17 year old boys are not consequence conscious and should have a rehab program, but to reduce sentences for cold blooded murder is stupid. Death sentences for foreigners with drugs, minimum sentences for the Thai counterparts, and reduced sentences if you admit the crime after getting caught red handed. <deleted>?

Just thought of it, "heavy sentence" by Thai standards. That must be it. But at least they caught somebody.

I agree that in the case with that guy who got 5 years, which I read a few weeks back here, is BS. There must be some $influental$ people behind him. But 25 years is a very strong sentence and it is maximum in many European countries. Before we start kicking those 3 boys/men into an abyssal sentence keep in mind: Terrorists in Germany (like Christian Klar, leader of RAF http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/1...faction-germany ) 'only' sit 26 years and they killed a lot more people.

25 years in Thai prison is though as hel_l.

Lets hope they really are the killers and not just some easy catch to blame. I always have my doubt when I read these kind of things.

Just as I thought. That 'pleading guilty, getting half sentence' makes many innocent people giving a guilty plea because they are afraid to get full sentence. In my opinion 'pleading guilty and half sentence' just makes it easy people to prosecute without much investigating.

My problem is you and people like you. I don't ridicule and try to silence you because you have a different opinion to my own, I ridicule and try to silence you because you have an opinion contrary to reality. You and people like you make no sense. You are either dangerous and irresponsible, or dangerous and ignorant. Either way you are dangerous. You try to scare people by typing things in bold like "People are getting sick from the vaccine," which is a true statement, but in reality is to be expected and is of little concern. You provide sensationalist headlines and draw all sorts of confused and illogical conclusions from it, and are apparently too stupid to realize a typo when you see one, like in the link you flooded all the Swine flu forums with, which I'm sure you did not just do here at Thaivisa, but anywhere you could. I see that euronews link about the 200 deaths being gleefully doted on by all the anti-vaccine propagandists. You were so happy to see people dying in mass so you could finally be right about something. Disgusting. There's no undoing the damage that euronews report has done. If you actually read the report it was obvious there was an error to mention 200 deaths as an after thought. ".......in Canada 6 people suffered sever allergic reactions from the vaccine, 200 died." You tell me, does that sound suspicious to you? Maybe find another source before spreading the fear? Ever hear of fact checking? No, of course not. You're also wrong about it being reported in many sources. The only other "news" sites or blogs carrying the story were quoting the euronews story.

Honestly I don't know how you people sleep at night knowing you're partly responsible for men women and children getting sick and dying because they refused to be vaccinated. I agree with you that we should decide for ourselves. Personally I almost never get them, but it doesn't bother me to either. But that doesn't sway my devotion to the truth about them. Our decisions should be based on what the facts are, what the experts agree, not, I agree, simply on what the government says.

Of the links you provided which actually worked, the ones which were from legitimate news sources such as Canada TV were quite good and seem accurate. Lets deal with the facts as you report them shall we?

1) The 200 deaths was a completely false report, but no doubt the damage has been done to the peoples confidence.

2) 2 people out of hundreds of thousands in Canada died after receiving the vaccine, (again, not 200) One elderly man with pre-existing health issues and one woman. It is yet to be determined whether there was any link to the vaccine. Neither one of them were vaccinated with the batch of 175,000 doses which were voluntary withdrawn by GSK due to higher levels of allergic reactions.

3) Concerning the said higher levels of allergic reactions, on average one or two people out of every 100,000 (.00001 or .00002%) will have an allergic reaction to the vaccine . That is to be expected. With the batch in question, 6 people out of 100,000 had allergic reactions. (That's .00006 %) The batch has not been recalled, only put on hold. 1,500 doses are going to be studied. If it is found to be a coincidence, those doses will be put back into the system.

As the report in the link YOU provided states, "the fact is the benefit of being immunized far out-way the risk of being immunized."

1) Me ignorant? YOU are the one. That news with 200 people die in Canada, that story is not from me but a NEWS website, so don't try to pin that on me. Riding on one wrong news report and trying to gain your righteousness doesn't make your claim more substantiated. My post was right and the news media was wrong. I am not happy at all that the news were wrong but it was not my mistake, it was the news site error. I was not posting more of it -as you stated in other threads, after I knew it was wrong.

2) I back all my claims with sources, that's what you are not doing at all. Besides WHO and CDC website you can do not backup your claims. Don't play doctor here, that's irresponsible. You can post opinions but DON'T claim anything without backing it up.

3) Your personal attacks on users who post here their opinion and fears show that you can not back up your claim and only try to be superior.

To your second point: We not only need to single Canada out. There are countries like Sweden were at least 5 people died! The number of accute problems not included. I have proof that people are dying allover the world and not only 2 in Canada, so if you would take a few minutes and check them out you would gain some insight of what we are talking here about. You are right about elderly vaccination. I agree that elderly are more sensitive to vaccine then younger people.

The vaccination around the world really hasn't started globally and I will try to inform the community about facts. Yes, that 200 people dying was wrong, but it was not my wrong. It was the news media wrongdoing.

As the report in the link YOU provided states, "the fact is the benefit of being immunized far out-way the risk of being immunized."

Why single out only one sentence out of of 6 websites I posted? if that it all you can find to back up your claim you lost already.

Happy Sunday!

=)

Here more links and information. The vaccine is dangerous, no doubt. Inform yourself, be responsible for your children. Some people here try to derail the information campaign. Look for yourself and do not believe everything which is said. People here are no Doctors and give only their opinion.

Make your own opinion and check the links below or just Google a bit and you get the results yourself.

regards

Death after swine flu vaccine and more reports flooding in

http://bx.businessweek.com/swine-flu/view?...e-and-more.html

Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter reveals concern of neurologists over 25 deaths in America

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12...hs-America.html

Further deaths linked to swine flu vaccine

http://www.thelocal.se/22846/20091024/

H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine Insert Admits It Causes Guillain-Barre Syndrome, Vasculitis, Paralysis, Anaphylactic Shock And Death

http://thebirdflupandemic.com/archives/h1n...shock-and-death

Death link to swine flu vaccine

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/h...icle6797993.ece

Swine flu: first death reported following vaccine

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthne...ng-vaccine.html

people receiving flu vaccine and getting sick (even if not obvious symptoms) would be infectious to others.

londonthai, if you are saying that the "getting sick" bit, (when some people can experience very mild flu symptoms for a brief period after taking the vaccine as the body's immune system responds to the dead virus by making more white blood cells etc), makes them able to infect others with that virus, your are simply dead wrong. That is not how it works. The fact that you can think this makes me very skeptical about anything you have to say on this subject.

You really try hard to discredit anyone who gives information, concerns and own opinions about the swine flu vaccine. I wonder why you try so hard to silence/ridicule people who have another opinion then you.

People are getting sick from the vaccine, research yourself and do not listen to anyone (not even me).

As I said it would, euronews has printed a retraction, or as close as close to a retraction as I guess they are willing to go:

(Replaces earlier version that contained factual errors)

Of the millions of doses administered in Canada so far, a small number of adverse reactions have been reported.

The recall affects 172,000 doses. But health officials have said there is no cause for alarm.

Canada has been particularly badly hit by the H1N1 flu virus.

http://www.euronews.net/2009/11/24/faulty-...rawn-in-canada/

Where's rabacoon and sedflonga now? Probably here: http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskop...arthsociety.htm

what your problem? Do you have to get personal just because we are not your opinion? Yes, I was wrong but I fixed it by calling to france, as I said earlier to clear that up. If I would not have called them they would probably not even changed it. There is more news then only one site which reported wrong! Playing <deleted> doesn't help. We try to find the truth. If you not like it press ALT-F4!

Also seeing that you write now ridiculing comments to my other posts AFTER I called that news station and correcting my statement ( I can not edit the posts like other forums, else I would have done it already) just to ridicule me shows just how low you will go. Everyone has the right and the duty to research for him/herself.

Here more links about of swine flu vaccine. Everyone should make their own decisions.

http://watch.ctv.ca/news/ctv-national-news...-19/#clip237358 ** Canadian TV about the dangers (nope, no factual errors)

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles..._medium=twitter

http://www.examiner.com/x-6495-US-Intellig...-death-from-flu

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles...restimated.aspx

Just connect a crime to a movie and it makes it more horrendous. In the end it was a rape/gang rape happens allover the world every minute.

The Red Plaque

There is much rumour about how dangerous that vaccine is. The German army said that it is to toxic for theyr soldiers. Because of that reason, government employees and Soldiers won't get that vaccine which contains an agent known to be responsible for the 'Gulf War Syndrome". Besides that,many people had bad sideeffects in Canada when people were getting vaccinated!!

Source:

hxxp://www.theflucase.com/ **important information about what is going really on!!

hxxp://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091119/Flu_Reaction_091119/20091120?hub=Health

working in healthcare doesn't mean being cleaner etc.

Mike substantiates his statements by giving first hand examples from his workplace and is quaoting british journal of medicine.

people receiving flu vaccine and getting sick (even if not obvious symptoms) would be infectious to others.

as to self reported flu cases, it was said yestarday on the bbc, that the majority of kids in the UK already had a swine flu. Actually, 70% cases are without any symptoms, those hospitalised are only a small frakction of infected.

Disagree with you and here's why;

1. Over 7.5 million people have been vaccinated in Canada. SIX (6) people were believed to have experienced allergic reactions from one batch. There is elevated monitoring of the vaccine and the Canadian HPB is erring on the side of caution with the GSK recall of one production batch (170,000 doses). The allergic reactions might be due to the batch or they might be due to another factor, since the allergic reactions were seen in one (1) vaccination center with a high concentration of aboriginal reciepients, many of whom had underlying ailments. No one died from the allergic reactions. 6 reactions ranging from mild to very serious is pretty good considering 7.5 million are now vaccinated. Have a look at the HPB recall page for the same date. More food products have been recalled due to salmonella poisoning fears than vaccine. More people contracted serious illness from these food products than from the vaccine. And yet, I don't see anyone panicing over the Canadian food supply.

2. A reference is made to the BJM. Cool. How about citing the specific article, you know, something like month, author, page number etc.? My feeling is that the BJM article was not read by the OP and that he instead read the reference on some website. So how about backing up the allegaton with a specific reference to the study? Not too difficult is it, assuming the article states what is claimed, right?

3. There is no proven link to "Gulf War Syndrome" and the vaccine. Please cite the current published studies that show this. You can't cite anything in the past 2 years, because, that hypothesis has been discredited. The current consensus is that the cause may have come from exposure to depleted uranium ordinance. Support staff and troops that were in areas where the munitions were used are the ones reporting the symptoms. You may want to go and read the studies.

4. The vaccine does not cause anyone to become "infectious". If people are ill, it is because they either had colds prior to innoculation, or the population in which they circulate were ill. Again, you are confusing the actual flu with people that have colds. People think they have the flu, when in fact they have a non flu illness.

5. The german military is receiving Baxter's version of the vaccine which is a different format than the GSK vaccine which was on order for Germany, because that is what was immediately available.. The Baxter vaccine is intended for pregnant women and children because it ajudvant free. Adjuvant free means that some people will require multiple doses. The two vaccines are formulated differently. There is more virus in the Baxter version. Did you know that? The adjuvant allows a smaller exposure of virus to be used in the vaccine. Baxter's Celvapan uses the full dead H1N1 virus. The GSK version uses pieces of the virus, which is why an adjuvant is required.

wrong, 200 people died in Canada. It seems the coverup doesnt work as planned...

hxxp://www.euronews.net/2009/11/24/faulty-swine-flu-vaccine-withdrawn-in-canada/

There is much rumour about how dangerous that vaccine is. The German army said that it is to toxic for theyr soldiers. Because of that reason, government employees and Soldiers won't get that vaccine which contains an agent known to be responsible for the 'Gulf War Syndrome". Besides that,many people had bad sideeffects in Canada when people were getting vaccinated!! Source: hxxp://www.theflucase.com/ **important information about what is going really on!! hxxp://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091119/Flu_Reaction_091119/20091120?hub=Health

I think it's several agents but the main culprit is squalene. This substance just DOES NOT belong in your bloodstream...

Gee, that's funny cause it's an organic compound already found naturally in your bloodstream.

"The study which attempted to link squalene to Gulf War Syndrome, had several technical deficiencies in the way in which it analyzed its data. On top of this, it has been determined that the anthrax vaccines given to those US military personnel, did not use squalene as an adjuvant."

Source: http://www.who.int/vaccine_safety/topics/a...and_answers/en/

Here an excerpt from WIKI about squalene: ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squalene )

Use as an adjuvant in vaccines

Immunologic adjuvants are substances, administered in conjunction with a vaccine, that stimulate the immune system and increase the response to the vaccine. Squalene is one of those adjuvants.[5] It is added to improve the efficacy of several vaccines, including pandemic flu and malaria vaccines.

An adjuvant using squalene is Novartis' proprietary adjuvant MF59, which is added to influenza vaccines to help stimulate the human body's immune response through production of CD4 memory cells. It is the first oil-in-water influenza vaccine adjuvant to be commercialized in combination with a seasonal influenza virus vaccine. It was developed in the 1990s by researchers at Ciba-Geigy and Chiron; both companies were subsequently acquired by Novartis.[6] It is present in the form of an emulsion and is added to make the vaccine more immunogenic.[7] An MF59-adjuvanted influenza vaccine (Fluad, developed by Chiron, which contains about 10 mg of squalene per dose) has been approved by health agencies and used in several European countries for seasonal flu shots since 1997.[5] However, the Food and Drug Administration has not authorized the use of such adjuvants in the United States.[8] Glaxo Smith Kline used the squalene-based AS03 adjuvant in their 2009 influenza pandemic vaccine Pandemrix and Arepanrix.

Health controversy

There have been attempts to link squalene to Gulf War Syndrome mainly due to squalene supposedly being present in an anthrax vaccine given to some military personal during the 1991 Persian Gulf War. One study found that deployed Persian Gulf War Syndrome patients are significantly more likely to have antibodies to squalene (95 percent) than asymptomatic Gulf War veterans (0 percent; p<.001);[9] however, the study concludes with the following statement: "It is important to note that our laboratory-based investigations do not establish that squalene was added as adjuvant to any vaccine used in military or other personnel who served in the Persian Gulf War era." A later study reported that many humans have squalene antibodies in their blood, regardless of whether or not they received squalene from a vaccination.[10]

Would you take a vaccine which was never tested and face the risk of getting sick/die from it? I stay clear of it.

There is a big thing going on about this Swineflu thing world wide..... after my own researches, i think its a well planned Hoax/scam with diffrent goals of whoever created that bad plan.... but check out this reports and investigations for your own before u judge.... www.theflucase.com not to accept any vaccination is a good advice for anyone who wants to be more healthy cheers PS: one thing left: the vaccination is classified as Biological Weapon.... surprise surprise.... just check the patents and u will find it out for your own...

I am in agreement with ya on this. But the brain-washed sheeple out there will still knock down the doors to get it...

That site, theflucase one, is the scam here. They have two messages, one is that vaccines are harmful, and the other is that climate change is a hoax. If you don't believe them, just ask them. Their DVD is $5.

And I'd like to see some source to back up the comment that the vaccine is a biological weapon. If you make outrageous claims like that don't ask us to accept it as fact by saying "Check the patents." &lt;deleted&gt; does that even mean?

I hope it counts that 200 people in Canada already died from the vaccine? (hxxp://www.euronews.net/2009/11/24/faulty-swine-flu-vaccine-withdrawn-in-canada/)

You can download the DVD - there is a torrent link at flucase.com. Its free. And YouTube is full of it, just search for Jane Burgermeister.

The DVD download link - hxxp://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5113864/The_WHO_Flu_Scam to get the full version (link comes from theflucase.com)

These videos are not false propaganda. The contents include a substantive and comprehensive collection of video news reports (from the major news networks), text news reports (from major newspapers) and unclassified government documents.

Look at it and make your own decision. Everyone is responsible for his-/her own health. Hyst asj yourself: why do people get 'forced' to take vaccinations for a flu where only a very small percentage of people die? Why not for the seasonal fly where hundred times more people die?

There is much rumour about how dangerous that vaccine is. The German army said that it is to toxic for theyr soldiers. Because of that reason, government employees and Soldiers won't get that vaccine which contains an agent known to be responsible for the 'Gulf War Syndrome". Besides that,many people had bad sideeffects in Canada when people were getting vaccinated!!

Source:

hxxp://www.theflucase.com/ **important information about what is going really on!!

hxxp://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091119/Flu_Reaction_091119/20091120?hub=Health

working in healthcare doesn't mean being cleaner etc.

Mike substantiates his statements by giving first hand examples from his workplace and is quaoting british journal of medicine.

people receiving flu vaccine and getting sick (even if not obvious symptoms) would be infectious to others.

as to self reported flu cases, it was said yestarday on the bbc, that the majority of kids in the UK already had a swine flu. Actually, 70% cases are without any symptoms, those hospitalised are only a small frakction of infected.

Disagree with you and here's why;

1. Over 7.5 million people have been vaccinated in Canada. SIX (6) people were believed to have experienced allergic reactions from one batch. There is elevated monitoring of the vaccine and the Canadian HPB is erring on the side of caution with the GSK recall of one production batch (170,000 doses). The allergic reactions might be due to the batch or they might be due to another factor, since the allergic reactions were seen in one (1) vaccination center with a high concentration of aboriginal reciepients, many of whom had underlying ailments. No one died from the allergic reactions. 6 reactions ranging from mild to very serious is pretty good considering 7.5 million are now vaccinated. Have a look at the HPB recall page for the same date. More food products have been recalled due to salmonella poisoning fears than vaccine. More people contracted serious illness from these food products than from the vaccine. And yet, I don't see anyone panicing over the Canadian food supply.

2. A reference is made to the BJM. Cool. How about citing the specific article, you know, something like month, author, page number etc.? My feeling is that the BJM article was not read by the OP and that he instead read the reference on some website. So how about backing up the allegaton with a specific reference to the study? Not too difficult is it, assuming the article states what is claimed, right?

3. There is no proven link to "Gulf War Syndrome" and the vaccine. Please cite the current published studies that show this. You can't cite anything in the past 2 years, because, that hypothesis has been discredited. The current consensus is that the cause may have come from exposure to depleted uranium ordinance. Support staff and troops that were in areas where the munitions were used are the ones reporting the symptoms. You may want to go and read the studies.

4. The vaccine does not cause anyone to become "infectious". If people are ill, it is because they either had colds prior to innoculation, or the population in which they circulate were ill. Again, you are confusing the actual flu with people that have colds. People think they have the flu, when in fact they have a non flu illness.

5. The german military is receiving Baxter's version of the vaccine which is a different format than the GSK vaccine which was on order for Germany, because that is what was immediately available.. The Baxter vaccine is intended for pregnant women and children because it ajudvant free. Adjuvant free means that some people will require multiple doses. The two vaccines are formulated differently. There is more virus in the Baxter version. Did you know that? The adjuvant allows a smaller exposure of virus to be used in the vaccine. Baxter's Celvapan uses the full dead H1N1 virus. The GSK version uses pieces of the virus, which is why an adjuvant is required.

I suggest you take a look at hxxp://theflucase.com Those adjuvants are TOXIC! There is not more to say about it:

it is of very importance that you look this YouTube video Please take a look at

Mercury and most of its compounds are extremely toxic and are generally handled with care; in cases of spills involving mercury (such as from certain thermometers or fluorescent light bulbs) specific cleaning procedures are used to avoid toxic exposure.[80] It can be inhaled and absorbed through the skin and mucous membranes, so containers of mercury are securely sealed to avoid spills and evaporation. Heating of mercury, or compounds of mercury that may decompose when heated, are always carried out with adequate ventilation in order to avoid exposure to mercury vapor. The most toxic forms of mercury are its organic compounds, such as dimethylmercury and methylmercury. However, inorganic compounds, such as cinnabar are also highly toxic by ingestion or inhalation of the dust.[81] Mercury can cause both chronic and acute poisoning.

Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_%28element%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_poisoning

and Squalen ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squalene) an Anti-bioweapon agent which soldiers have been vaccinated with and which suffer now the Gulf War Syndrome

Symptoms attributed to this syndrome have been wide-ranging, including chronic fatigue, loss of muscle control, headaches, dizziness and loss of balance, memory problems, muscle and joint pain, indigestion, skin problems, shortness of breath, and even insulin resistance. Brain cancer deaths, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (also known as Lou Gehrig's disease), multiple sclerosis, and fibromyalgia are now recognized by the Defense and Veterans Affairs departments as potentially connected to service during the Gulf War.[3]

Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_war_syndrome).

because all those poisons were inside, the german army refused to give it to their soldiers. The german government didnt test it and just believed that the WHO does the job right. I have much more information on that but cant put all in context right now.

This is a very very serious matter.

Go to YouTube and search for JANE BURGERMEISTER.

There is nothing more important at the moment then this.

German Media Breaks Silence, Reports Evidence Swine &lt;deleted&gt; Virus Came From Lab

The swine flu virus may have originated because it was sloppy work in a lab - at least an Australian researcher says. The WHO, however, comes from a natural origin.

by Nora Schlueter, Hamburg

The theory of the retired Australian virologist Adrian Gibbs of the origin of the swine flu sounds like a scenario from a disaster film: As some scientists tinkering in the lab on a vaccine against different influenza viruses that infect pigs. Work, perhaps not quite clean. Or to infect cell lines for cultivation of virus with multiple strains. Combine snippets of DNA from three different strains are infected to a new virus that humans can. A laboratory employee has the flu pathogen outside - and begins a worldwide pandemic.

The fact is: The origin of the swine flu virus is still unknown. Components of its genome have similarities with eight different influenza viruses that were discovered from 1983 to 2004 in humans, birds and pigs. Gibbs is in his investigations to the conclusion that the new H1N1 pathogen probably goes back to three strains of the virus, which attacked in the past Pigs in the United States and Eurasia. Viruses are propagated in cell cultures

Scientists assume that the original strains of the virus by migratory birds, or trade in pigs came from one continent to another. In an animal that was infected by different pathogens, and finally emerged, the new virus. Gibbs, however, considers the coincidence of the origin of strains in a laboratory to be more probable: "It would be by far the simplest explanation."

Back in May this year, he submitted to the World Health Organization (WHO) in his theory. Now, he published his hypothesis, together with two colleagues in the online journal Virology Journal. The research team wrote: "It is important that the origin of the virus is detected, if we want to prevent future pandemics, instead of fighting after they occur, only the consequences."

Massentierhaltung favors flu in pigs

In the professional world Gibbs hypothesis is viewed with skepticism. Already, the WHO came to evaluating his arguments to the conclusion that the virus originated in a natural way. And Thomas Vahlenkamp, director of the Institute of Molecular Biology at the Friedrich Loeffler Institute, said, "we can completely rule out the emergence of the virus in the laboratory. But I think it is highly unlikely to impossible. "

Healthier in freedom: factory farming weakens pigs

It could very well be a precursor of the virus have developed in a pig population and there for a long time had remained undetected. From animals in South America and Southeast Asia, for example, never viruses were isolated. Scientists estimate that is extremely suitable for intensive farming, the emergence of new virus strains. The pigs are crowded together in a confined space and not just stick it easier. Her immune system is weakened by the poor living conditions.

The first person became infected in April in Mexico with the new flu virus. Since then, the pathogen spreads throughout the world, in Europe doubled the number of deaths every two weeks. On Tuesday died in Germany for the first time a girl in the swine flu, which exhibited no pre-existing conditions. Vaccinations should have contained the spread of the virus. But the production of the vaccine does not run like fail: In Canada, the pharmaceutical company had to recall a load of GlaxoSmithKline vaccine because it triggered unusually large number of patients with allergic reactions.

Source:

hxxp://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2053%3Agerman-media-breaks-silence-reports-evidence-swine-&lt;deleted&gt;-virus-came-from-lab&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=64〈=en

There is much rumour about how dangerous that vaccine is. The German army said that it is to toxic for theyr soldiers. Because of that reason, government employees and Soldiers won't get that vaccine which contains an agent known to be responsible for the 'Gulf War Syndrome". Besides that,many people had bad sideeffects in Canada when people were getting vaccinated!!

Source:

hxxp://www.theflucase.com/ **important information about what is going really on!!

hxxp://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091119/Flu_Reaction_091119/20091120?hub=Health

He should call himself Donald Duck, wouldn't be far from the truth...

You mean with confessing the same kind of confession that was extracted from that self proclaimed American pedophile which was flown back first class only to figure out that he was not even in the country?

The problem with confessions is, especially in Thailand, that they hardly bear any weight. Half the poor inside prisons have confessed to a crime they did not or not commit on their own. The justice system is so flawed that you would ask Hun Sen to repair it. Without a lawyer present people get sentenced to life or worse. Have a look at how many times a Prime Minister, Minister of Justice or other hi-rake appears on TV and promises to catch someone within the next week. They always catch someone... not necessarily the one who did it. Besides if you have no money and appear in court you have two possibilities. Fighting the case, which you will lose due to lack of funds, or confessing which will half your sentence. Got the point?

I concur.

My Tesco Lotus Plastic bag does the job

WoW one year to catch two crooks. I guess they didn't pay enough tea money...

As I said earlier, nothing changes =)

You guys nearly need to work out a bit to let steam off. Yes, its a very bad crime but it happens everywhere in the world, EVEN IT DOESNT MAKE IT MORE ACCEPTABLE! Crimes happen.