Hummin

Well as long you have everything in order and meet the requirements why on earth should you use an agent if not disabled or in bad health to wait in line? First time 30k, and then 15 - 25k for renewal? For some people that is alot of money! Roundtrip for two to Philippines?

They are proud their uniform and how it makes them feel!

Im not sure that would look good on Outlaws deliver him to the police in their own club house! What do you think? In that case, those Outlaws have to be quite dumb!

Real estate comes to mind, and those who was involved in a bigger scandal in Koh Samui was? I wouldnt bet my money that foreign motorbike clubs where foreigners was role playing crimes was on top of the list! My best guess would be trafficking out of Thailand and foreigners who abuse minors in Thailand as the ones who is on top of the list. But I have no proofs or statistics to back it up

So you are an 1% club member, and not a wannabee club member? In Thailand, it is quite different than back home, but still, did you know HA wanted to establish a club in Hua Hin? If you know, you also know how that ended before it started.

Thats why you do not underestimate who you are dealing with at anytime at anyplace. You just do not know the man in front of you, period. So many have done that in Thailand, especially when it comes to property and buying in to other business prospects after meeting someone who seems to be genuin, or do not look bad. Bad guys normally comes along as quite friendly and good at what they doing. Doesnt apply to this guy thow.

F amateurs, Swat police up my bull pie ????

Im not found of trophy hunting! I fish for food, not catch and release if you understand!

I have walked every beach I have stayed, but not Pattaya beach. Jomtien there is many early birds make a walk or run before they start they day whatever they do, and if you walk the beach same time every day, you meet many of the same day after day, since it is their morning routines, and have met and dated a few of those as well during my years in Thailand. Most common for the more structured ladies in real jobs, they are dead boring, and not much time left for a foreigner who will end up waiting for them to have their limited days off and their short holidays.

Well not all of us, some will have options wherever they are or go. But cant deny bars and nightclubs is a great place to meet people no matter if they work there or not. Even 6 in the morning walking the beaches, is a great place to meet local girls and ladies.

Im not sure what you say, but those girls look branded property! Reality for one, doesnt mean it is the same reality for others. The problems in Thailand is a goverment issue, or lack of government to serve, protect, educate and guide their children, and give them fear chances to become someone who is ready to meat the reality as grown ups. Im sure if not agree with my statement, most will agree Thailand have a dysfunctional system who do not serve and protect their people. Especially the ones with lesser potential or resources from countryside who more often ends up in bars in tourist areas.

Maybe because we do not know future requirements for long term visa, and want to make sure our investment in family, business, land and homes is not on jeapardy because we one day can not meet the requirements for long term visa such as marriage and retirement. Many right now struggle from renewal to renewal to make sure they have all up to date. Even use of agents, becoming more unsecured for some, and if can ot meet the economic financial requirements in first place, it drains an already limited budget that could had been spent on a month living expenses.

We all have choices, and some or many make bad decisions for them self, based on the environment they coming from or the place they seeking happiness, be it long term expectations or short term.

It is easier to think, or not to think at all to enjoy life as a customer. Less painful and also easier to justify your actions without any doubt or concerns about people who end up like the ones who sell their body. They are humans and have feelings to either you are willing to reckonize it or not. I understand they got a job to do, and also customers who pay have expectations, but the hole point is, how girls become the hard pro so many here complain about. There is a whole tread going with bar girls and lies, many treads about broken marriages and personality changes among their wifes. Wonder where that comes from.

Not every bar girl is charging any money after bar fine is paid, and some truly searching for partner working asa bar girl, or at least started in first place with that image in their head. Some girls not even work a week before they are taken out of a bar, and are living proofs feeding the dreams of other girls, and the same happening to them.

I believe many forget the girls also have feelings, pride and are humans to. The girls do not start as pros with a rough shield protecting them if not broken from before.

I ment customers who truly falling in love on their holiday trip and make promises they cant follow up, and contact vanish after a few weeks back in reality. A few of those for a newbie, changes them.

Im more interested in the social experiment when it comes to peoples behaviors and patterns than the use of the girls itself. You are more than welcome to give me such great renomme! Thank you!

It is a mixed reasons why girls become more pro, simply said they getting broken in, and learn the game of lies snd broken dreams. Bar girls also being taken for a ride by customers, not only one way around.

It is in the nature of the topic, and reasonably answered, nothing more nothing less. Have a nice day

while others, should taken themselves more seriously ???? Im impressed by you and your logic

I believe you do not understand complexed social structures you find in the more poor part of Thailand, where more education is not possible for some girls, or even manage a life on a factory salery or even 7/11. Where you find girls take short cuts to a better life, or trying to make a better life, you make short cuts in your deffinition of a barl girl and what they should had done. Many girls is already broken mentally before they reach working age, and have same type of issues we in the west also have where kids drops out, but have a safety net around them. At least most of them, not all, and we also find the same people who drop out finding alternative ways to live. In Thailand those alternatives is mostly to become a service girl in one of the tourist areas, if not a service girl for the locals instead. Being a bar girl, doesnt mean they go with customers multiple time a day, or not even multiple times a week. There is a wide specter from those who go multiple times a day to those who never or very rarely goes with a customer.

well mine is 123, and good enough for making a decent life, but you have to know there is a turning point where to high IQ become problematic if you do not manage to make a use of it, and easily become or seen as the other end, while a person with very low IQ can manage life even better if manage to adopt to the society socially. Drink beer, watch sport, and learn to enjoy what other people enjoy ???? With Higher IQ that kind of socializing becomes harder for most.

Who is naive? I just do not understand such questions importance, or why these treads comes and goes again and again discussing prostitutes. We all know whats going on in the different bars, who is up for going, and who is not. Some girls is more professionals than others, and those you should learn to know and understand. Many of the girls is naive and have the eyes on a better future for them and their families, and do what it takes to succeed after learning and hearing som many stories about others who was lucky. The establishments is a wide concept from priority to sell beer and drinks, to more pure selling girls for sex and between a mix. Soapies? I guess it is pure sensual massage to pure happy ending as 100% guarantee, where the girls have little or nothing to say who she have to go with.. Whoever picks here, she have to service! Right? What do you think about the girls can not choose themselves?

Should it be allowed to let loose people on the best dive sites with marine life and ruin it? So many things that people should not be able to buy in to without experience enough to manage themselves to go there. For most it is only possible because other people guide them there, and make an negative impact on the enviroment. Unfortunate, the local people is depended on such activities. For me personally, Mount Everest have never been a place I wanted to go, especially in a que all the way up to the top, and down again, even I have enjoyed alpine climbing for years. There is a special motivation that needs, that often comes with a carriere somehow either commersial or for business leaders, and off course hard core climbers with a pure goal.