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I just checked my American bank account and a check from the IRS for $1,200 had just been deposited. It is  the same account that my monthly social security check is deposited in. I didn't include any bank details on my 2018 IRS tax form. I filed a joint return with my Thai wife and included her ITIN number. I thought this made me ineligible for any stimulus checks. I have yet to send my 2019 tax form to the IRS (I have applied for  an extension-October 15th). My Thai wife just got a bunch of money from the Thai government because of some farm land she owns and cultivates. All this free money. What a wonderful world. 

After reading the last topic  on the announcement, I guess I better start thinking about doing a 90-day report. My last border crossing was in Feb of this year so the next crossing would have been in May (I have been on a Non-O Multiple Entry based on Marriage) and I didn't have to do a 90-day report as I was only in the country for 85 days before exiting and entering Thailand.  And with the general amnesty until July 31st, I have not been required to do a 90-day report. If I am reading the the last item on the announcement correctly, I think 90-day reporting does not apply to me. Might just hop down to immigration and see what they say.

I have a one year Non O Multiple Entry based on Marriage which expires Nov. 17th, 2020. I did one border crossing in Cambodia and returned the same day on Feb. 12th, 2020 so my 90 days was good until May 11th, 2020. Becuase of the  July 31st amnesty and because of the obvious  travel difficulties and retrictions in Thailand I have been waiting for clarification from Thai Immigration as to what to do next. Are there any nearby countries where I can do a short one day border crossing and come back into Thailand, the same day if possible.  I know Cambodia is requiring 100,000. What about Malasia and Myanmar. And, being an American, would I be allowed back into Thailand? I am going to the local immigration office tomorrow to see what they say. With some luck, they might give me another 90days without having to leave the country. I would consider flying to Vietnam or Singapore if I knew I could get back into Thailand. 

I am wondering what kind of penalty you might have to incur for filing late.  I know that if you owe the iIRS money and you file late you have to pay interest on what you owe and maybe a late fee. But what if you don't owe anything and you still file late.  A slap on the wrist? 

Actually. I entered my correct AGI the first time I filed which is why I couldn't understand why the efile  was rejected. Turbotax then suggested I try again but this time submit the efile using $0 for AGI. Anyway, I eventually got the extension. Thanks for your feedback.

Thanks you guys for your replies. When I did my 2018 tax return last year (for 2018) I with Turbtax I was able to e-fle but this year I wasn't. You need to include your AGI and I did but it was still rejected. Turbotax suggested that I try to e-file again but use $0 for my AGI. I did but it was still rejected. No big deal. It's just a lot more convenient. I have since downlaoded my return (PDF). When I logged onto turbotax a few days ago to get an extension (e-file) I couldn't follow their instructions. But yesterday I googled 'e-file extension Turbotax' and a Turbotax site appeared with a few questions and then , after logging in, I was able to successfuly e-file my extension request. 

I have had absolutely no luck in locating a site where I can file for an extenstion electronically. I've been to my Turbotax site and the IRS sites but no luck. I can download an extention form pdf and send it but where can I fill out a form online and click it and send it to the IRS  (efile). This shouldn't be difficult. but then it is the IRS. Actually, I tried to file my return electronically with Turbo tax 2 months ago but the IRS wouldn't accept it.

Problem fixed. Thanks.

Sorry. It should read 'Mobile netowrk not avaialable'.

I have been trying to make a local call but all I get is 'No network connection available' and on top of my phone there is a small coninuous message that reads'No sim card-no network connection'. What has happened to my phone? I have never opened it or touched the sim card. I tried some advice from a youtube search but it dodn't wotk.

Last year, after I receiving  my 7162 and completing the form I was unable to use the return envelope with their address SS included. The glue or paste stuck and I could not unseal it despite trying to steam it open. I used a normal envelope and sent my form back to them. In October or maybe a bit later, I got another 7162 and they informed me that they never received the first 7162 they had sent me and that if they didn't received this most recent 7162 that I had just received, they would cancel my SS payments. So I then sent the form back registerd mail, about 100 Baht. They must have got it because I get my monthly dayments. 

Rumours are  that you cannot buy alcoholic beverages  during the month of June. Is that right?

If one is travelling to Buriram from neighboring provinces it appears that one might be subject to a 14 day quarantine but it is inconsistently enforced. My wife's niece arrived at her hometown in Buriram from Chonburi and was put into an empty house for 14 days. She arrived last week. Another niece arrived last month and it was a similar story. If I live in Buriram and go to Bangkok and Chonburi for a few days and return  to Buriram, I am wondering if I would be susbject to the same kind of quarantine. How would they know that I left and went to another province and came back. I asked my wife this and she said people will notice your absence and then inform the village headman. I have a local sticker that was put in in my passport by the village headman which seems to indicate that I am virus free.  I would hate to get back to Buriram and spend 2 weeks in some kind of quarantine detention center.

Thanks for your clarification. You are always helpful. I am wondering what I should do when July 31st rolls around. Assuming that the borders will be open by July 31st, would I just go to my nearest border, flash my passport, go into Cambodia or Laos, get stamped and then come back into Thailand for another 90 days. No need to go to immigration beforehand I guess. 

We are having a heated debate about who might be and might not be covered regarding the general amnesty announced by immigration. I have a Non-O multiple entry based on marriage and my present 90 days will be up within the next week so normally I would be required to do a border crossing, turn around and come back into Thailand for another 90 days. My understanding, from reading the immigration announcement, is that I do not have to do a border crossing until July 31st. Have I read the immigration announcement correctly?

Actually, I think Cambodia will not let me cross the border yet since I am an American. I am not sure about Laos. If I were allowed to to a border crossing next week I might actually do it instead of waiting for July 31st (I have my reasons) Would you happen to know if we can do a border crossing for this type of visa requirement at any of the border crossings at Cambodia or Laos. Any restrictions or requirements like a health certificate. And would Thailand let me back in? Thanks.

Sorry. I should know this but what exactly is a border pass? 

I have seen a few posts which claim that if you have someone included in your tax return that has an ITIN number you will not get the check. For example, a joint return with your Thai spouse whose ITIN number was included on your return. I am wondering what evidence there is for this claim. I can't seem to locate any information on the "Get Your Payment" website. 

"Those who did file, but did not include direct deposit information, should use “Get My Payment” to provide their banking information to get their Economic Impact Payment immediately. "

 I got this quote from the IRS 'Get my Payment' site. Not quite sure I have read it correctly. Does it mean that if I filed a 2018 tax return but did not include banking information (I didn't) I can submit my direct deposit information (it would be the same bank information as my social security direct deposit info) on their site? It seems like they are giving you that option. 

But the site also says that if you filed a 2018 or 2019 tax return they will send a check to your mailing address on the tax return. Since my address on my 2019 tax return (I haven't filed my 2019 return yet) is a Thai address I am wondering it they will really send a check to a Thai mailing address. 

My 2018 tax return is a joint return with my Thai wife who has an ITIN number. I owed no taxes nor was I eligible for a refund. Something tells me that with this tax status my chances of getting of getting a check are slim. But I'll continue my endeavor.

What might they charge  I wonder. 

3 minutes ago, Langsuan Man said:

It's in the name, a stimulus for the US economy, not the Thai economy, and what you spend in the US on vacations, online ordering, and buying US equities,  doesn't help the US economy NOW

 

You chose to live in Thailand so don't complain about what your are missing by not living in the US, and I am sure that what you save by living here is much more than a one time stimulus check 

I am sorry but I have to respectfully disagree. Buying American products online and having them shipped to Thailand is as much a stimulus for the American economy as having them shipped to an American address. And when I travel to the USA, once it is advisable and safe to travel again, I will use American carriers, and stay in American hotels, eat in American restaurants, use American car rental agencies, shop in American supermarkets. I also buy a lots of American products in Thai shops and supermarkets despite the stiff tariffs. I am a true patriot. I even bought a box of Cheerios and some imported American almonds and a bottle of California Red, at incredible expense, in Foodland.

"Make America Great Again". Send those stimulus checks to expats in Thailand. And reduce those tariffs on American wine.

1 hour ago, Berkshire said:

I found this a bit odd.  I filed with TurboTax back in Feb and my return was accepted by the IRS almost immediately.  Within a week or two, they sent me my refund.  Just wondering why yours was rejected.  Did you have some major changes in your return?

 

As for getting the bailout money, since you're receiving SS money into your US account, you should be eligible. 

Not sure why it was rejected. I didn't put my AGI (adjusted gross income I think) on my first attempt. When it was rejected by the IRS turbo tax told me to include my AGI from the 2018 return.on the next attempt. I did but it was still rejected. Turbo tax just said it is not unusual. Maybe because it is a joint account with my Thai wife and her ITIN number.  t

1 hour ago, bkk6060 said:

With everything you posted I would say No, you are not getting a check.

And, living here you probably don't deserve one.

Why don't I deserve one? Despite living overseas, I easily spend thousands of dollars when I travel back to the States, not to mention all of the things I buy from the USA online. I also invest in US companies through the mutual funds iIbuy. 

A. I filed my taxes for the 2018 tax year as a joint account with my Thai wife who has an ITIN number. Used my Thai address on the form. 

B. I have completed my 2019 tax year return with turbo tax and tried to e-file but IRS would not accept my e-file return. Tried again but no go. Turbotax said that this is quite normal. Just file by regular mail they said. I saved printed and my return but have yet to send it to the IRS. As with my 2018 return, it is a joint return with my Thai wife who has an ITIN number. Again, I used my Thai address on the return. I am retired and the wife is unemployed. 

C. So, I think I will do the return again but this time not as a joint return with my Thai wife. And then use my US mailing address. Whether I file jointly or not, Turbo tax calculated that I own no taxes. I am wondering is using my US address is in any way fraudulent. It is the address I use for my US bank and brokerage accounts. 

It seems that, from reading other posts,  if you file a joint account with someone using an ITIN number you are not eligible for the governement check. (Can't really understand why). And, if I haven't filed my tax return with the IRS for 2019 they my just use my return for the 2018 tax year which has my Thai address and my wife's ITIN number. 

I might try to file on the IRS free online lookup that I found on this site but I sold a stock and have some capital gains with  my other mutual funds. Not much though and don't own any taxes. I think you can't use this site if you have income from stock and bond investments but I could be wrong.

C. My social security check is paid into my American bank every month. Direct payment. 

I am wondering is I can somehow make myself eligible for the check under these circumstances. Any comments?

From the Washington Post

"The IRS said there would soon be a web-based portal for people to update their direct-deposit information." Maybe this will work.

If you use a non US address on your tax return you might be able to give the IRS your social security  banking info for direct deposit. I am also wondering if they will send me a check since my mailing address with the IRS is my Thai address. 

I sent my 'are you alive document' back to the office in the USA sometime last year. Just a few weeks ago I received a letter from them telling me that they had yet to receive my 'are you alive'  document confirming my address. They enclosed another 'are you alive' document and said if they did not receive this latest one my funds might be cut off or delayed. I had sent the 'are you alive' form back to them last year standard air mail and they never got it. So this time I sent it registered. So it might be a good idea to send them registered mail.