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13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

However, the damage would rise to Bt150 billion if the scourge period prolonged past three months. In addition, tourist arrivals would drop by 3 million in this case, he warned.

Drop by 3 mio ? Still 37 mio coming to Thailand even if there is a continuous danger of becoming infected ...?

Keep on dreaming ... may be some hard core chinese still coming because they know that they are infected already and want to enjoy a last vacation ...?

Thai tourism will crash completely if the outspread of the virus continues and more and more cases are reported ...

2 minutes ago, Billy Bloggs said:

Facts by skewing data a data set so small it is rubbish, the scientists are all CC ones would they say any different. The seas havent risen as stated in decades yet this lot has said for the last 24 years they would, thats why.

That's right , the NASA only employs idiots ... they should listen to you instead .

4 minutes ago, Billy Bloggs said:

By the way the major problem is population numbers, start reducing those and see the effect.

Too many people , that,s true .

But the damage to the biosphere is done and accelerating even if there would be no more humans ... Too late to change back .

Just now, BritManToo said:

Sea levels haven't risen measurably since the 1860s.

first photo made at high tide , and second one at low tide ...?

32 minutes ago, Kurtf said:

Mankind is an insignificant speck compared to mother nature and has zero to negligible impact on the weather that has gone through warming and cooling cycles for millenia.

The Role of Human Activity

In its Fifth Assessment Report, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a group of 1,300 independent scientific experts from countries all over the world under the auspices of the United Nations, concluded there's a more than 95 percent probability that human activities over the past 50 years have warmed our planet.

The industrial activities that our modern civilization depends upon have raised atmospheric carbon dioxide levels from 280 parts per million to 412 parts per million in the last 150 years. The panel also concluded there's a better than 95 percent probability that human-produced greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide have caused much of the observed increase in Earth's temperatures over the past 50 years.

https://climate.nasa.gov/causes/

I have to post this often ... many are still denying the facts ... why ?

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Four of the 10 countries most affected by climate change are members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN). This region is highly vulnerable, particularly to rising sea-levels, with catastrophic consequences for low-lying communities.

A neighbor just bought some 15 rai beachland for 100 mio ... He wants it to secure his daughters future , he says ... He does not believe in climate change ... He's a gamblin' man ...

6 minutes ago, geronimo said:

Perhaps we could even ask AI the question,

"How come a species with so much intelligence, is hell bent on destroying it's home, while also knowing that it has nowhere else to go?"

 

Be interesting to see the answer ....

I wanted to see the answer , too , so I just googled your phrase ...

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/05/26/climate-change-weve-created-a-civilisation-hell-bent-on-destroying-itself-im-terrified-writes-earth-scientist/

That is part of what I found :

Change within a lifetime

I was born in the early 1970s. This means in my lifetime the number of people on Earth has doubled, while the size of wild animal populations has been reduced by 60%. Humanity has swung a wrecking ball through the biosphere. We have chopped down over half of the world’s rainforests and by the middle of this century there may not be much more than a quarter left. This has been accompanied by a massive loss in biodiversity, such that the biosphere may be entering one of the great mass extinction events in the history of life on Earth.

What makes this even more disturbing, is that these impacts are as yet largely unaffected by climate change. Climate change is the ghosts of impacts future. It has the potential to ratchet up whatever humans have done to even higher levels. Credible assessments conclude that one in six species are threatened with extinction if climate change continues.

Coupled with the "Great Silence", it implies that the reason we haven't heard from anyone is that intelligent life, when it happens anywhere else in the universe, doesn't last and when it does it flames out quickly and takes the biosphere with it (preventing any other intelligent life from reappearing. Sorry dolphins!). While this is depressing in a very deep sense both cosmically (no Star Trek/Wars/Valerian universes filled with alien civilizations) and locally (we're going to wipe ourselves out, and soon) it is perhaps understandable given our current progress towards reproducing the conditions of the greatest extinction event in earth's history.

https://science.slashdot.org/story/17/08/13/2130215/astrophysicist-believes-technologically-advanced-species-extinguish-themselves

6 minutes ago, geronimo said:

I think it's going to be a race between man destroying his habitat and AI destroying man .....

Man destroying his habitat means man destroying himself ...

AI should be used to replace our ( corrupt ) politicians , who still think that everything will go on like they are used to ...

1 hour ago, UbonThani said:

 So 64 out of 11,944, or 0.5%, take the view that humans are the main cause of global warming. But that includes all abstracts, including those that did not take a position. It would be nice to take the 64 as a percent of those that did take a position. Unfortunately, in their data set, Cook et al put 4a, those that do not address the cause of global warming, with 4b, those that express the view that humans’ role in global warming is uncertain or undefined. It would be nice to separate them, but we can’t unless we have the even rawer data. So let’s generously conclude that everyone in category 4 has expressed no view. That’s a total of 7970, leaving a total of 3,974 that have expressed a view. The 64 who think the main cause is humans is, drum roll please: 1.6%.

 I know you won't believe it , because you only believe what you want , but...

Here are some facts from the NASA :

https://climate.nasa.gov/causes/

Scientists attribute the global warming trend observed since the mid-20^th century to the human expansion of the "greenhouse effect"

• Carbon dioxide (CO₂). A minor but very important component of the atmosphere, carbon dioxide is released through natural processes such as respiration and volcano eruptions and through human activities such as deforestation, land use changes, and burning fossil fuels. Humans have increased atmospheric CO₂ concentration by more than a third since the Industrial Revolution began. This is the most important long-lived "forcing" of climate change.

The Role of Human Activity

In its Fifth Assessment Report, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a group of 1,300 independent scientific experts from countries all over the world under the auspices of the United Nations, concluded there's a more than 95 percent probability that human activities over the past 50 years have warmed our planet.

The industrial activities that our modern civilization depends upon have raised atmospheric carbon dioxide levels from 280 parts per million to 412 parts per million in the last 150 years. The panel also concluded there's a better than 95 percent probability that human-produced greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide have caused much of the observed increase in Earth's temperatures over the past 50 years.

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

You're assuming the universe is real, and we're not just a computer simulation.

I feel the pain , what would that be good for in a simulation ... 55

Meant as an illustration to post # 115 ...

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9 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

Very  well done but your statements about  America wanting to control the World through it's military expansion is ill informed.   It is much more complicated than that.

 

Most Americans, if you ask them, would agree to a smaller budget on defense in order to fund things like healthcare and  education.  No doubt, things like a war in Afghanistan and Iraq were ill conceived and give the impression that the US is a predatory power but it's people mostly want the wars to stop and they will as long as the body politic refuses to accept them and votes accordingly.

 

Don't forget, America was attacked in 2001 and lost almost 3,000 dead.  This attack shocked Americans like never before, even more so than the attack on Hawaii in 1941 as New York is in the heart of the American mainland.  Americans have given up much freedom, loss of life and loss of treasure due to the attack and eventually some form of normality will  force a complete change in direction-  Election 2020

 

However, IMO while climate change is one of the most pressing issues in the World- the real threat is Artificial Intelligence.   Five G (5G)  is not just about making your mobile faster and more diverse- it is the start of total control of the population.

 

Cameras are everywhere now but they will be truly everywhere within 10 years and they will use facial recognition; instant eye scans and every person's fingerprints will be in a massive database/

 

Tho powers that be and the inventors will tell us what a wonderful thing AI is as it will make everything work so much better- medicine will save lives; instant identification will stop fraud and theft and our  social lives improve by leaps and bounds due to more leisure time.

 

In reality, the World will see massive unwmployment; a complete loss of privacy and an intrusive network that tracks our every movement.

 

Wake up in the morning and the lights go on and our AI helper greets us and prepares breafast.  They know what we like.

 

Our autonomous vehicle  starts the minute we walk out the door- we simply say bank and off  we go to do our banking. As we enter we are greeted by AI and as we approach the counter- we have already been scanned and our account has been brought up. We can update our cards (no money needed- replaced by virtual currency).

 

Many of us won't be going to work as  our jobs are already replaced by AI. They don't need us anymore.  The bank has just updated our debit cards with  money provided by the 'Government' or the consortium which pays people to do nothing.  Since many jobs are abolished wealth conglomerates have made huge profits and can easily afford to pay people to do nothing and still make huge profits.

 

What do we do all day- ask the vehicle to find  the local pharmacy so we can get our medicine or  plant mixture to keep us  feeling good all day while we  use our  tablets to view the sports scores; read  what were once newspapers and books and contemplate what the World used to be like.  The weed  stops the depression mostly

 

At the end of the day- our  AI minder will remind us it's time to eat and reccommend a restaurant.  As we  enter we are greeted by name; provided a list of our last orders and asked if we have the order- it just so happens that the helper already knew what we wanted from past history and  it is cooking and almost ready.  A bottle of vodka is placed on the table in case we need more relaxation.  Payment is automatic- don't even have to show the debit card- the restaurant has acess to our bank information through the central AI terminal/

 

We are on the way home where we are greeted by our 'wife' or 'other' which we purchased once the Japanese had perfected  'buy a mate' which provides an exact designed replica of a perfect female or male.  For  the advanced model- every 3 months one can have their mate change nationality and skin color.  I won't go into the sexual aspects that are offered.

 

If you think I am joking- I am not.  Some of it allready exists- some is in the design stage and some in the conception stage.

 

IMO this type of World is not one that is livable (although the  buy a mate could work-it probably cuts down on divorces) and would creat massive social problems.  Just because you can build; do it or conceive it- doesn't mean you must .

 

I would rather look forward to an Alien invasion- benevelnt of course.

Thanks for that well written outlook to a possible future ...

Yes , AI and robots will replace a lot of people ( who than become useless for the ones in control ) , but that is only a part of a possible

future ... What will happen before this becomes a reality , is what we have seen in Australia for example , huge fires that are out of control , droughts followed by inondations , huge storms like we've never seen before , viruses that will become more deadly and that are designed to eliminate most of the planet's human population ( by nature or by people ? ) ... All this will result in a shortage of food to feed the ever growing population , wars for resources , ( water ) will result out of that , many , many people will die ...

The ones who will survive all this , ( probably the rich and powerful who are prepared for this ) , might learn from this ' apocalypse ' or not ... and build a better future for the few survivors ( if there are any ) , AI could be a part of a future utopia if there is one , but before this , mankind will suffer .

Well , the future looks rather dystopian , man made pollution and greed changed the quality of life for everybody on this planet to the worse ...

We cannot turn back to how it once was , it is too late for that .

Sorry for the kids and younger people ...

What everybody could do , is to change to a non , or at least , less polluting lifestyle , plant some trees , protect the animals and insects that are part of the ecosystem ...

Eat healthy , less meat , try to find something positive even when everything looks disastrous , relax your mind , enjoy every minute that you have , everything is limited in time ... get the hate out of you , it will destroy everything you touch .

It surely is very sad that mankind did not realize the consequences of it's actions when it was still time , but , mai pen rai , it is too late anyway . Do something good with what is left of your life ...

Someone asked me if there is a life after death ... I answered that I am not even sure if there is one before death ...

Guard them , but do not touch .

15 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

Coronavirus cases in Thailand remain at 32

says TAT ...

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Amid the ongoing coronavirus outbreak, Thailand has not restricted Chinese tourists from entering the kingdom

So , par consequence , Thai should be denied entry to a foreign country if they want to travel . By putting the profit above security in times of a virus outbreak , they should be considered ' unwanted aliens ' . Fair enough .

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The disease carried by the same man may have spread elsewhere, underlining the challenges health authorities face in containing infections in an era of global air travel.

 

Spanish authorities said on Sunday that a British man had tested positive in Mallorca after coming into contact with an infected person in France.

It speads very easily from one person ( even not known to be infected ) to another , to another , to another ... be careful !

5 hours ago, webfact said:

"This case is part of the same cluster which is being reported as linked to a British national returning from Singapore."

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Les Contamines-Montjoie,

Les  'contamines' , in French that means the ' infected ' . Strange coincidence ...?

Young people can learn from the mistakes the older generation made , anyway , they do not have much of a choice as they need to live on a planet that starts to defend itself against it's most ' developed species ' , the humans ...