JBChiangRai

I have converted 3 vehicles to LPG here for business purposes. By far the most interesting was a Toyota Vigo 3.0 diesel automatic. The vehicle starts and runs on diesel until about 1,200-1,400 rpm after which it rapidly transitions to pure LPG. As the LPG came in, it sounded like a noisy sewing machine with a massive boost in power, I never dyno'd it but it would beat a Benz away from the lights with a claimed 0-100 of 6s. The fitters made a mistake, there is a solenoid operated valve, apply power and it allows LPG out the tank, remove power and it isolates the tank. Probably standard on all LPG conversions. They wired the solenoid valve directly to the battery so it never shut off with the result that the battery would go flat after a few days if you didn't use it. I converted a new Pajero Sport 2.4 manual that we used for customer collections and over the course of 5 years we saved about 300,000 baht on fuel, we only lost 100k in depreciation factoring in the LPG savings.

Aha! A Q-Anon guy!

Why don't you tell us? Please post the links.

Those statistics are available for ICE cars (maybe not broken down into fuel type), if you google, you’ll find them, the American government keeps statistics and so do many insurance companies. Generally, ICE cars are 60 times more likely to catch fire than battery EV’s. But you are right, a major EV fire in a multi-storey car park is going to be very bad news. However, they have been around for 10 years, and it’s not been a major issue yet.

Yep Thailand's Interior Ministry rolls out digital ID app in drive towards Thailand 4.0 | Thaiger (thethaiger.com) also links from Bangkok Post and lots of other government departments, try googling Thai digital ID "Thailand 4.0" An email from BitKub rejecting my new passport specifically said they could only accept Digital ID's because of Thailand 4.0 compliance

I agree with most of what you say, but current thinking is most battery packs will outlast the car. We should be able to recycle them at EOL too. I think the massively complicated ICE has run it’s course and don’t think fuelling ICE cars with H2 is a good solution, I like fuel cell technology but think it’s too little, too late.

Actually, the Hindenburg didn’t crash, it caught fire. They think it was probably a static electricity spark created at docking by earthing the superstructure. I used the example of the Hindenburg because it’s the most famous Hydrogen fueled fire. I am not sure whether Zeppelin’s were buoyed by Hydrogen or Helium. There is little point in comparing other types of vehicle accidents like airplanes, the thread is about whether or not H2 power is superior to BEV’s. My post was meant to be satirical. There are numerous issues with using Hydrogen in fueling cars. Toyota’s Mirai has no less than 3 hydrogen fuel tanks, they take up so much space that the rear seats are unsuitable for adults and boot space is severely limited. Ultimately, I don’t think it will make any difference, whether hydrogen fuel cells turn out to be better than battery electric vehicles, it’s going to be like the Betamax and VHS era, the market will go with the one that is most widely available and I think H2 has already lost.

Just hook those pipelines up to the Anti-EV’ers here, lots of gas and hot air here.

Agree too, but I find it interesting.

Around 180 billion tons of lithium in seawater, we won’t be running out any time soon. As I have said before, I don’t consider your posts abusive, just inappropriate and fairly often rude.

That was predictable.

Are you feeling better now you’ve got that off your chest? Bless!

Lol yes you’re right Honky Tonk was Dick Emery, the music I think was Benny Hill (Yakkity Sax I think it was called)

“Can’t you read” another of your many inappropriate comments. Yes, I read what you said about renewables, but that same argument applies to battery EV’s, and guess what, the energy used to charge BEV’s is the same energy that would be used to produce hydrogen and generally not from renewables, but from fossil fuels. Keeping on topic, whether it’s a battery EV or a hydrogen fool cell car, electricity used is to charge it or produce H2 is likely to be the same source. Lithium is an abundant element, it’s simply a matter of scaling up, mining, refining, and battery production. Lithium is abundant in seawater, and guess what, there’s a hell of a lot of that!

Generate the hydrogen by electrolysis of water. Where dos the electricity cone from? that is the same argument used by people with EV is, that it can come from renewable sources, but does it? Not just now it doesn’t? So, instead of putting electricity in a battery, and taking it out again to drive the car, we take electricity, we electrolyse water, we produce hydrogen. We liquefy it or reacted to create something else, we store it, we ship it to a filling station, and ultimately we put it back in an EV and we turn it back into electricity, or we explode it to move all those 2000 moving parts in an internal combustion engine m, all these extra steps, complete nonsense, and that is why people are buying battery EV’s and not hydrogen cars like the Toyota Mirai , which is the biggest flop they have ever had. The problem you talk about with lithium, it’s not it’s abundance, it’s the number of battery factories and refiners that we have, that has to scale up massively, and it will do, supply and demand.

Well, I don’t now, one member talks about butts and ins and you’re talking about being girly, I think you’re rude honky-tonk cue Benny Hill, music

I believe Airbus too. I think the only claim for a fly by wire accident is this one. The pilot of the A320 that crashed at Habsheim claimed the fly-by-wire engines failed to spool up on command. it was vital to the state & Airbus that it be pilot error. Ultimately, he was found guilty and sentenced to 10 months in prison and 10 months probation. Analysis of photographs, showing the black boxes being carried away from the aircraft by the worlds most prestigious photograph certification company in Lausanne, Switzerland showed that the black boxes being presented to the court were not the same ones photographed being carried away from the aircraft. Additionally, further analysis by experts identified numerous problems with the digital flight data recorder, four seconds missing, no timing marks on the tape, wrong leaders on the tape etc etc. IMHO, the captain was right, and it, most likely was a fly-by-wire error, it would’ve been disastrous for Airbus, if that was found to be the case on their first ever, A320 aeroplane.

You’re missing a couple of important points. Hydrogen is still highly inflammable and explosive, whether it is used for fuel or buoyancy. Secondly, how are you going to produce the hydrogen? With the same dirty fossil technology that is currently used to charge EV’s. Market forces will determine which one is going to be successful, and right now, it does not look like hydrogen. It very much looks like EV.

I think one of the challenges with EV’s is making the tyres, suspension, brakes, weight distribution, steering etc. capable of handling their ever increasing performance. Typically weighing over 2 tons, it must be challenging to make it stop as quick as it can accelerate. A very fast car that won’t handle properly is unsafe.

But not the dead ones…Thank you Boeing

Ah a FOOL cell, Hydrogen, there was a vehicle that ran on hydrogen, it was an airship, I think it was called the Hindenburg. What could possibly go wrong.

They say KYC block is temporary but won’t give timescale, can still sell crypto but can’t buy on BitKub. Cannot use PayPal at all. It seems to be related to Digital ID’s, hopefully we will all get them.

Being a Brit, I had to look them up. Before EV’s fast cars were uncommon in the UK & expensive. EV’s are fast and cheap and they are getting very fast. It’s an exciting time to be alive. It used to be big news when a car was launched that could do 0-100 in 8 seconds, now almost every EV betters that and is exciting to drive. With the launch of cheap dual motor EV’s, anyone can own not just supercar but hypercar performance with cheap running costs and driving becomes a lot of fun.

It might have been a Pontiac Firebird I drove, it was gold with a huge eagle decal on the bonnet. I do remember it drove like a POS.

I was surprised too. This could never happen in in the UK. My account was with Bangkok Bank. I used an agency for my Elite application and they were able to explain what they were concerned about and it was addressed to their satisfaction. Bangkok Bank would have known where the withdrawals were made.