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28 minutes ago, gk10002000 said:Monthly transfers cost money, and of course now require a Thai bank be set up
How else they could have accommodated people who don't have access to embassy letters? When the embassies could not accommodate income letter, how else TI could have accommodated it is beyond me. Regular transfer is the only solution I can think of. They gave the option to embassies first. And all embassies were OK to accommodate "income letter" as per TI's request except the four.
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13 minutes ago, riclag said:
Jomtian and check out the many condo's and their rental options! Tons to choose from!
He mentioned about renting a house. With 50K/month, he will certainly be able to rent a house with swimming pool in a gated community in and around Pattaya. Beach road and 2nd road (as he mentioned) are dirty and very crowded. One can find a decent condo for may be 15K. If he fancies high rise condo living with sea view, it can also be obtained for 25/30K
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1 minute ago, riclag said:
Could he obtain a Non O visa in Lao assuming he gets a single entry tourist visa in LA?
Why go through all those hassle? He can get an O-A in LA and set for one year. If his wife is Thai, he can get an O in LA also.
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Get a O-A visa for unlimited in/out flexibility into Thailand for one year at least. (can be done for two years also. But ignore that now for overloading with useless information in your case). Don't pay 34K to visa services. Get O-A visa and you're set for one year (can be for two years also). I am on the same O-A visa.
If you're ready for 50K/month rent, no need to bring anything. Travel light. You can find everything here. It is as good as the USA. Just grab an O-A visa, passport, credit cards, ATM cards and you're set. No more than 700 USD in cash.
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Embassy letter is the best method but the embassies of four countries threw their citizens under the bus. Thai immigration did its best to accommodate them. They could have simply ignored them and pushed them all to 400/800K method.
It is not a simple method. It will create lots of confusion, paper works, misinterpretation of requirements between IOs, and more works for applicants if trying to do it themselves. This will result in more people seeking the help of agents to smooth out the process, streamline documents required, help in obtaining required documents from banks etc. My guess is more agents with low level contacts with immigration officers and know-how of exact requirements (+ tea money) will spring up and lead to more competition amongst agents and reduction in prices.
Was it done deliberately by immigration? I don't know but I doubt very much. If they wanted a deliberate approach, they could have simply ignored the alternative option of showing monthly transfer to your Thai bank and shoved everybody en masse to agents for "money in the bank" method.
I am on an O-A visa now and I bring 15K every week (even when I am not in Thailand). For me it will be easy to give my bank book and max 5K (+2K for the official fee) to an agent to get it done without worrying about all the paper works I need, missed paper works, IO's demand for more paper works, TM30, TM28, etc. I could get another O-A visa from USA but that will require me to time my stay in the USA, doctor's appointment and fees, etc. It is not as flexible as I giving 5K to an agent and have a permission for in/out anytime without questions and stay in Thailand for one year. Now I need to find an agent who can do it for max 5K (+2K official fee). I hope I can find one.-
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5 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:
why is the combination method allowed for retirement extensions, but not for marriage/child ones? (an old query).
May be the limit is already very low (40K/400K).
5 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:Similarly, why are marriage/child extensions allowed average monthly income but retirement apparently not? (a new query!). I'm guessing the latter one could just be an oversight with new regulations, but the former?
May be if somebody is working and he lost his job for a few months. So the average will work for him. Retirement does not allow work. So, no need for average.
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2 minutes ago, steve73 said:
Try "Dee money". I'll add a link later.
Just type DeeMoney in Google. Go to Bangkok and open an account there with only your passport. After that you can use their mobile app to send money out of Thailand. There is an excellent report written by @Pib. Search for it in the forum
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The initial application cases based on "income method will be interesting". Most probably they will push them to agents or give three months extensions in increment to stay and prove that you are bringing money into Thailand.
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1 hour ago, MikeOKitches said:
I plan on going to Thai Immigration at Chaeng Watthana here in Bangkok before my Retirement Visa expires on 31 March 2019. Hopefully, they'll accept my Income Affidavit I got. This is Thailand, so I don't know what to expect.
So start worrying about it as if it will cure your anxiety. Don't worry about something you're not in control. You can keep sending 65K/month and go in March and see what happens. With the embassy letter, they may also reject if you come up blank in your bank book.
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26 minutes ago, jackdd said:They might ask you to prove that the money is indeed "pension" and not some other income, and it probably means you need to have it directly deposited in your Thai bank account.
No they are not going to ask. They don't think like you. It is said repeatedly that any income is acceptable as long as it goes into your Thai bank. When I got an O-A, it said proof of retirement, I just wrote I retired. They want to see money in a Thai bank coming from oversees not its source.
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48 minutes ago, KhunFred said:This STILL does not address the question of whether the new rules start NOW...or in 2020.
It starts now for people who don't have embassy letter. If you have embassy letter, that is good for 6-month. Just cool down and think.
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30 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:
Not easy. I'm not going to sidetrack this thread, except to say I bing in aud cash in one or two hits every year. I'm aware of various ways to transfer money. The best is to bring in cash and exchange here. Only suited to those that have reason to visit home country.
You still have to other ways - like 800K in a bank and agent. If you only want to do it your way or highway, you may have to look for other option. TIs not going to entertain your way only. Sorry.
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56 minutes ago, Vacuum said:There's no mention of that it even will exist.
it clearly says it is for income for visa extension. Are people turning blind?
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It says in the Subject: Supporting evidence of income. So 400/800 money in the bank method remains the same. Earlier income was supported by embassy letter. This also stays the same. The only change introduced is the monthly deposit of 40/65K in a Thai bank. It also says money should be transferred from overseas. Source of the money is immaterial.
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21 minutes ago, wobalt said:
However why the TI doesn’t accept them now - is not clear
Because TIs don't have to accept your way, my way and million other ways. Can you imagine the circus it will create?
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1 minute ago, LongTimeLurker said:
Agent users still have to provide the documents the TI wants.
Yes but they don't have to spend their time in TVF, bank, etc., reading what documents need to be provided for their jurisdiction. They don't have to know how the TIs in their jurisdiction is interpreting the Thai written orders, etc. All information agents will have and I bet they will also help you in getting exact documents you need.
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4 minutes ago, ocddave said:
Not retiring here, have to be here, so I'm just a statistic waiting for a place to happen.....I figure death by pollution, death by Thai drivers, or death by chemical/pesticide infused food or water. I spend my time trying to avoid dying, hopefully I'll be successful
You're lucky because you won a genetic lottery but destitute Thai people are not as lucky like as you.
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8 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:
Well as I see it then for guys like me who stay here only part of the year, its back to either METVs, or back to Back SETVs and border runs.
You can also do back-to-back exemption entry. Does not cost anything. But there may be risk of entry denial depending on how often you do it.
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2 minutes ago, Vacuum said:
Agent users won't believe you.
It is hit and miss. It is the total time he spent collecting documents that TIs not even interested. Agent users don't like to deal with the hassle and nitty gritty of TI's retirement extension.
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10 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:
Presumably these monthly transfers will be subject to Thai income tax since they are income remitted in the year it is earned.
Maybe that is the reason behind it all??
Please don't post non-sensical posts about income tax.
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1 hour ago, ocddave said:
I'd rather see corruption stamped out with an iron-fist, then get back to a set of rules that everyone follows...or else.
Instead of posting it in TVF, why don't you become a Thai activist for eliminating corruption starting from the lowest level at villages where destitute Thai people have to pay tea money to get things done at the government offices. If you start that, it will be a real worthy cause to spend your retirement time here in Thailand.
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12 minutes ago, nasa123 said:
But still in Phuket you can not open a bank account if you don’t have a B-visa whit work permit, a have a account BAT new peopel no.
They may have to go to Bangkok. Banks may change their rules for opening account in the future if TI is truly working with the banks to prepare the letter needed for "monthly transfer method"
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47 minutes ago, roger101 said:
My pensions are paid into my UK Bank (Nationwide) and I use Transferwise to bring the money here every month. So I take it that this would not be recognized by Immigration as a Foreign transfer so therefore would not be allowed. If I brought the money over say 4 times a tear would that be accepted (straight from Nationwide).
No it is not going to be accepted. It's made clear by @007 RED that money must be brought every month. Find out from your bank if their internal coding (not what is displayed in your bank book) recognizes Transferwise transfer as an "International transfer" or not.
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5 minutes ago, gregsmithy said:
Thanks for that its good to know someone has already asked the question through Kasikorn. Now all I need to do is get the local bank staff to understand what I want.
I think not what you want but what TI will accept as a standard for all applicants. And as somebody posted, TI is working on that with banks. (may be completely false. who knows)
My visa plan - will it work?
in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
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Perfect plan. You can convert from SETV to Non-O in an immigration office inside Thailand.
Hit and miss. Should be able to open a Bangkok bank account. But may not be easy. You have to be persistent and may have to talk to the Manager. Go to their larger branch not branches in shopping centers.
Yes, it can be done definitely
No police letter for good conduct and doctor's health certificate required if done inside Thailand.
If you're willing to spend 15K baht, you can avail the services of visa company (or agents) and they will smooth out the process, documents, opening bank account, etc and it is hassle free. From second year, it is very easy and most people do it by themselves. For the first year, specially changing from Tourist visa to 3-month Non-O and then to one year extension, you may encounter some issues at different offices but if you're persistent you can do it yourself as thousands have done it before you very successfully. Best option is to come here on an O-A visa but you have already ruled that out.