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Let me summarize the process as per others posting. ubonjoe, please correct me if my summary is not right.

Using hypothetical dates

1. Jane applies for a multi-entry visa in her home country using funding (800K or income method), police report, and health certificate.

2. Visa is granted at the home country embassy on Dec 31, 2017 with a stamp enter before Dec 31, 2018

3. Jane enters Thailand on Feb 1, 2018 and gets a stamp (on Passport) Permitted to Stay January 31, 2019 (one year from Feb 1, 2018).

4. Jane leaves Thailand July 1, 2018 and returns on August 1 , 2018 (multiple entry can return any time before Dec 31, 2018). Jane gets another stamp of Permitted to Stay July 31, 2019 (one year from August 1, 2018)

5. Jane leaves Thailand on Dec 1, 2018

6. Jane enters Thailand Dec 30, 2018 (Multi entry visa is still valid Dec 31 2018). Jane gets Permitted to stay stamped till Dec 29, 2019 (one year from Dec 30, 2018)

7. Jane leaves Thailand on July 1, 2019 with a re-entry permit (at airport before departure or at an immigration office). Needs a reentry permit because ME visa has expired on (Dec 31, 2018)

8. Jane enters Thailand again on August 1 (Jane has a reentry permit to enter) and stamped Permitted to Stay till Dec 29, 2019. Permitted to stay does no change now.

9. Jane leaves Thailand on Dec 29, 2019 for her home country and starts over the process from 1.

Jane does not like extension of stay. ha ha ha

On 3/10/2018 at 9:20 PM, jackdd said:

The minimum income is something like 50k or 60k if you are from a western country or work, or 65k if you are retired, so a "decent" salary would be higher than that, 15k per month is a wedge, but not sooo much if somebody has let's say 80k per month.

And Thailand could of course throw in some goodies together with the visa, which could solve other problems, something like: Every foreigner gets free emergency medical treatment at government hospitals. If you stay longer than 6 months you can go to see a doctor who checks for preexisting conditions, which are excluded, and then you also get free regular medical treatment at government hospitals.

The 500THB was just a number i came up with which seemed reasonable to me. For me the 500THB per day would be ok, i can't really say if i would prefer the current system or the 500THB per day system, which is maybe also a reason why i chose the 500. If it were 1000 THB i would clearly prefer the current system, if it were 200THB i would clearly prefer the pay by day system.

Can't you pay 15K per month to an agent (may be less) now to take care all the hassles of obtaining all legal documents for legally staying in the country. I for one, will nit pay 500 baht a day to stay here. No countryI know of has system like this.

8 hours ago, Sheryl said:

There are many optipns. Need to know:

1. Your age

2. How long you expect to be here (i.e. settling for life or just long visit?)

3. Do you have health cover in your home country? And are you willing/able to return thete for any non-emergency health needs?

4. Can you afford to pay up front and be reimbursed or do you need a plan with direct payment arrangement with Thai hospitals?

5. Do you have any ore-existing conditions?



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I am 58.

Maximum One year at a time. Never will stay for more than one year. I may go out of the country and come back again after few months

Yes I have health insurance in the USA

No, I don't want to pay upfront

High BP but controlled

I am planning to move to Thailand with a Non-O-A (Long stay) visa. Would like to know members' experiences with health insurance. Though it is not required for O-A visa (required for O-X visa), the embassy recommends http://www.siamcityinsurance.com

The cheapest plan with them is around 7K (baht) for one year for 1 mil coverage.

19 hours ago, Barley said:

Why? Because since I am moving residency to Thailand I will formally give up residency in Europe so that I will not be able to obtain another certificate of no criminal record once I do that since I then have no more residency in Europe.

Not sure what do you mean by give up residency and tax consequences in your country as you mentioned.

Why not come with an O-A long stay visa. This may be a little expensive but it allows you to stay in Thailand up to a year. You can go in and out any time you want. Don't have to move your money to Thailand. With some tricks, the visa can be used to stay up to almost two years.

I am planning to get the O-A long stay visa from USA and come to Thailand in May. I found this option has lots of flexibility.

Thanks Jack. If I understand correct, one can stay almost up to two years with an O-A visa.

How long can I stay (or get stamped to stay) if I enter Thailand with an O-A (long stay) visa from the USA? It is multiple entry and valid for one year. Do I have to leave the country every three months?

Bangkok bank will open with any visa but non-o s get some special privilege. You should be able to provide

1. Permanent address in Thailand (lease will do)

2. Your US address (assuming US resident or address in country of resident)

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I am going to Japan to a bio-hacking conference to prepare a report on the state-of-the art of bio-hacking. I intend  to take to my thai GF to japan. What are the visa requirements. I am an American, I don't need a visa to enter Japan.

I don't understand. How does it work. Every time I go to their website to log into my account, they send me a SMS onetime code to log inot my account. If I am in the USA, am I going to receive the SMS? Can someone please explain the logistics of how to log into their website from USA to add money. 

On 10/15/2017 at 11:44 PM, carmine said:

Theres no such newspaper.  

May be The Times (Of London)

Is e-Cig illegal in Thailand? I have seen vendors openly selling in Sukumvit sidewalk.

Shouldn't company related legal questions be directed to company lawyers instead of forum posts? Are legal decisions in Thailand made using crowd sourcing and debates in online forums?

18 hours ago, Lite Beer said:

here would usually be a gap of 60 days between Non Imm application and Extension application but they sometimes do it at the same time.

When they do it at the same time, do we have to apply in two different forms, e.g. TM 7 for TV visa extension and TM86 for change of visa type on the same day? What is the logistics of the process?

8 hours ago, claynlr said:

Are there any Chicago O-A visa holders that can respond about proof of retirement documentation? I will retire soon but will not take SS for a few years so that can't be used. U Joe says being over 50 is proof of retirement but they can get that proof (age) from your application or passport. Seems they want something else.

From discussion here I think it is not required. Also, the embassy at Washington does not require it.

8 hours ago, siddv said:

Excellent!  Great info. Thanks so much for your the many replies re the 90 day reporting.   One more question. During my 1 year stay in Thailand am I permitted to leave the country for visits back to the US and/or  for short holidays in neighboring counties without implication?

 

Thanks again !!

With a one year multiple entry visa (non-o A (long stay) you can leave and enter as long as your visa is valid.

12 minutes ago, Dan5 said:

I really wonder why so many people get their retirement visas in the USA. Its so much easier to get them here.

I think it is one year multiple entry and easier for someone with a 401K/IRA  account. Don't have to withdraw money from retirement account. 401K/IRA withdrawal before 59.5 years also has 10% IRS penalty.

4 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

3. Open a 'Savings' account (not a current account) in the Province you will live, not necessarily Bangkok.

http://www.bangkokbank.com/BANGKOKBANK/PERSONALBANKING/SPECIALSERVICES/FOREIGNCUSTOMERS/Pages/Account.aspx

Open the link and click on document requirements to open the account.

Document requirement  foreigner with visa says

• A Letter of Reference issued by: (One of the following)

• Embassy or international organization
• Customer’s home bank to Bangkok Bank via the SWIFT messaging network
• Person acceptable to Bangkok Bank e.g. branch officer, customer, government officer or company executive
• Educational institution located in Thailand and acceptable to the bank
• Company that is acceptable to the bank, confirming the customer is in the process of getting a work permit

The easiest way to get a letter of reference I assume is Embassy. That's why I said Embassy. The form Bangkok Bank has for Embassy certification already has US address and Thailand address. Bangkok bank officer told me that I don't need Thailand apartment lease or any other Thai permanent address verification if I have the letter from US embassy because the letter already has that address.

7 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Chicago is a official Thai consulate and does issue OA visas. Note that the info that was posted includes a police clearance and health certificate.

Police clearance and health certificate is easy to obtain for $100. My issue is retirement proof. One can draw SS still not retired. So, SS is not a proof of retirement. one can retire and not draw SS for better return in the future.

3 minutes ago, elviajero said:

You do not need to be retired to get this visa. It is sometimes marketed by consular services as a 'retirement visa', but it's a 'long stay' visa that's available to anyone over 50 with enough income or cash in the bank.

Chicago Thai consulate lists the following documents are required for long-stay.

VII. Retirement in Thailand, the applicant must be at least 50 years old and must submit documents as follows :

• documentation showing proof of retirement.
• bank statement or monthly/year income.
• a copy of the applicant’s criminal record from the local police department.
• a certificate of health.

Is there any Thai immigration website where requirements are listed?

Long-stay can stay for one year. After one year when you try to extend, you may be required to put the money in Thai bank in savings or fixed deposit.

I was wondering what would happen if you reply for another long-stay from the US after the first one expires.

Does someone have experience in getting multiple Non-O long stay (retirement) from the US?

90-day reporting does not require fund verification. It is only for address confirmation, I assume.

Also, did you submit a proof of retirement? If so, what?

I cannot find information about 90-day Non-O retirement visa category in Thai consulates in US.

I can find information about Non-O family and volunteer work visa or one year Non-O (Long stay) retirement visa information.

Please post links to any Thai consulate in the USA that issues 90-day Non-O Category retirement visa that I can extend to one year inside Thailand.

Let me summarize the steps  from others' postings.

• 1. Reach with a 60-day Tourist visa from USA.
• 2. Go to US embassy in the morning for a US address certificate  (appointment made prior to coming to Thailand) to open a Bangkok Bank account. This will also require a Thai address. Hotel address is not acceptable). So step 1a may require finding an apartment with at least a month's lease if you don't have one.
• 3. Go to Bangkok Bank and open an account on the same day in the afternoon
• 4. Connect your US bank to Bangkok bank and do a test transfer of $1000
• 5. When test transfer is successful, send 800K baht to Bangkok bank
• 6. When money arrives, get papers and update saving book from Bangkok bank and go to immigration the following day
• 7. Apply for visa change to Non-O. If they require money to season for two months, apply for an extension and comeback again for visa change to Non-O when money is seasoned for two months

In step 7, if they deny Non-O visa because the money is not seasoned for 2 months, do I still pay the visa change fee?

1 hour ago, JackThompson said:

The check for funds-origin is done when doing a "conversion" from a Tourist-type visa to a Non-Imm Visa in-country. 

Get your initial Non-O at a Consulate before applying for the extension-of-stay, and this is not an issue.

If you can't get an initial Non-O in your home-country, and don't want to go to a nearby consulate for one, then you are stuck with doing a "Conversion," which requires proving the origin of the funds (among other headaches).

Which is consulate is hassle free for Non-O and what documents do they need for Non-O?