Chomper Higgot

Sorry, I was simply posting a statement from the Opening Post article that gives the reason why around 100 officers have refused their normal armed duty. “ in protest at the charging of their colleague with murder.” which conflicts with your own statement “Around 100 armed officers have laid down their arms over they maybe charged with murder if they have to use firearms...”

Agree.

So why does the article in the OP state: “The Metropolitan police has called on the SAS to provide counter-terrorism support after firearms officers downed their weapons in protest at the charging of their colleague with murder.”?

I last week opened an account with Barclays, online and without any hitch. I was in Bangkok at the time. All they needed was my Passport and proof of a UK address. Stress on the ‘a’. For many expats whose income to their account is from bona fide UK sources, pensions, investments, rental income the bank have no reason to question the account. The mistake people make is declaring they are an expat. Unless one has significant investment income there is absolutely no reason the declare oneself an expat. One proviso is when sending money overseas from your UK account, give the reason as sending money to family, grey enough not to be confirmation of your own residence overseas.

Let’s look at it another way. An armed unit police officer has been charged with murder. Around 100 other armed unit police officers have refused their armed duty because they don’t believe their colleague, and presumably themselves, should be held accountable to the law. There are 100 less police officers available right now because they don’t agree accountability under the law should apply to one of their colleagues. AND There’s a dead guy who’s death the Crown Prosecution Service believe warrants murder charges.

Juries are swayed by the evidence and testimonies they are presented with. That’s how trials work.

Most UK police don’t carry guns. The Officer will undoubtedly make a defense case on ‘protecting life’. It remains to be seen if it sways a jury.

I have no idea what George Floyd has to do with this case. George Floyd is dead and he was murdered by police in a country thousands of miles away from the UK. Unless of course someone is trying to make the case against police summarily murdering citizens, why is George Floyd even remotely relevant?

I’m not the topic of conversation.

1. No I am not. 2. Yes he is. 3. Likewise it doesn’t remove an individual’s right to life. 4. Erm…

I agree, police officers, armed or otherwise should not be above the law. When that’s accepted it remains for a court trial and a jury to decide guilt or innocence, as with other criminal charges laid against anyone else.

So, should armed police officers be above the law?

Jonny, the term ‘Race bating’ appears three times, you introduced it and then repeated the accusation twice more. Nobody was talking about race or race baiting, until you got started in it.

Johnny, it was you that introduced George Floyd into this discussion.

Let’s try again:

If might remind you. It was you who introduced George Floyd into the discussion. Pot, kettle and all that.

I’m not siding with him at all. He’s not a criminal he’s dead. He was a criminal and he served his time for those crimes. A little reminder of that innocent until proven guilty argument you so often make.

Oh dear. So you don’t understand that Manifestos are only applicable to the election fir which they are formulated and published. I really do see the merits of introducing Civics in UK schools.

I see you’ve moved on to deliberate misspelling my username and inventing points of view for me.

So here’s a question. Should armed police officers be subject to the law?

Erm no.

Because the Home Secretary’s remarks might very well impact the trial. She doesn’t have to be corrupt to do so, she might be simply stupid. She certainly should not be making comments on cases being sent to trial.

Yes I did. I did not dispute he was attempting to ram his way out of a police road block: “But witnesses claimed the driver ignored police requests to give himself up and when he attempted to ram his way out of the roadblock, officers opened fire.” Please point out which bit of the witness accounts I have objected to.

No I haven’t.

Has anyone disputed that?