Chomper Higgot

Comparing the (let’s be kind here) ‘developing economies’ of SE Asia with the developed nations of Europe is false equivalence nonsense.

And a real close look. The French took control of their border.

‘Checked’. A cursory glance before being waved through. Brexit changed that.

The Irish Border issue is inextricably linked to the Good Friday Agreement. Washington will not let London mess that up. And the UK needs a trade deal from Washington. This is no minor issue.

Apart from the criminal prosecutions this is going to lead to, this behavior has set the Secret Service up for a complete strip down and rebuild.

Hogwash. Providing easily accessible legal means for immigrants to do the work the US economy needs immigrants to do is not an impossible task And away with you and your eagerness to assign to me arguments I have mot made. I have frequently posted on the causes of migration to the US, including poverty, violence and fear of persecution in their original homelands. You are late to the party with your newly found concern for immigrants.

No, not at all. Businesses that remain in business by breaking the law don’t belong in business. If a food producer gets caught using banned substances in its food production to cut costs it gets fined, perhaps the business owner goes to prison. The idea of holding people and businesses accountable to the law is not new.

So punish businesses for employing undocumented workers. Simple, effective and self supporting from penalties and fines collected. It does however negate possibilities to visit cruelty and inhumane treatment on poor and powerless immigrants.

You have done well as brand new member to find your way directly to the World News sub-forum. And unusually for for most, but not all, brand new members, you’ve jumped straight into the controversial topics with outlandish prophecies. I do hope you stick around long enough to see reality as it continues to unfold.

The Tory leadership pantomime now being billed as “Thatcherite Cosplay”

That’s a two way street.

The UK, France, Germany…..

Hope springs eternal

The DoJ has requested and has received transcripts if all testimony given under oath to the J6 Hearings. Now for what rational reasons might they collect this testimony?

That’s what Grand Juries are for.

He’s well supported by Fox News and the viewers of Fox News. Tge same Fox News that refused to broadcast live coverage of the hearings.

Trump was booed because he didn’t endorse the extreme rightwing Q-Anon swivel eyed loon that the crowd want as their candidate. This does not bode well for US politics and Tge direction the rightwing is heading.

Why am I not in the least bit surprised to see a member excusing, obfuscating and presenting strawman arguments to defend the appalling abuses for which the Pope is now apologizing?! This is a shameful episode in the history of Canada and the Catholic Church in Canada. There are no excuses for any of this.

Can you identify a tangible benefit that Brexit has delivered?

The tax payers in California include the immigrants in California , all the businesses making increased profits by employing undocumented immigrants and all the consumers paying cheaper prices for goods and services provided by the labour of cheep undocumented immigrants.

That would be a great argument if there were not so many examples of nations with older demographics, and very much more generous social welfare programs funding their social welfare commitments without vast numbers of undocumented immigrants. A far simpler example is to examine the impact on the whole economy of undocumented immigrants, whole sectors of the US economy are deeply dependent on undocumented immigrants, removing that dependence would have direct impacts on the viability of many businesses and would drive up costs to consumers. The dependence on cheep undocumented immigrant workers is a direct result of the pursuit of ever lower costs/higher prices. There is only one down side to formalizing and managing immigrant worker access, the economy needs workers, the immigrants need work. That downside is documented immigrant workers would not be subject to the fears that prevent them obtaining better rates of pay and work place benefits. That would increase costs that would reduce profits and/or drive up consumer prices. The US economy and consumers is addicted to the cheep costs that come from the use of undocumented immigrants.

Penalties for businesses employing undocumented immigrants would not cost billions, would not require engaging in the folly of ‘barriers and walls’, would return an income in fines and penalties and would reduce demand for undocumented workers. It would also remove the economic incentives to employ cheap undocumented workers rather than Americans and documented immigrants.

You do realize he takes his cut?

I think the French regard them as travelers in transit.

I think they work on the principal that a problem isn’t a problem if you can get rid of it.