Chomper Higgot

Actually that’s not necessarily true, one might even say it’s false information. If, for example, a member gets the information from a lunatic fringe website they spend a lot of time on, or they obtain information from cable TV ‘entertainment program’ masquerading as a ‘factual news source’, then no matter how removed from reality these sources have driven them, they could not reasonably be accused of lying for posting the misinformation they rely on to inform their view of the world. In such a case, pointing out that the member is posting misinformation is not accusing them of lying. It’s simply reminding them they are misinformed.

JFK wasn’t the other option. Thankfully Americans made the wise choice.

Alternatively we can see what one of the major energy companies has to say in the matter: 1~2 people living in a flat or 2 bedroom house: Annual consumption: Gas - 8000KWh; Electricity 1800KWh Annual Cost: £1712.25 _____ 2~3 people living in a 3 bedroom house Annual consumption: Gas 12000KWh; Electricity 2900KWh Annual Cost £2499.87 _______ 4~5 people living in a five bedroom house Annual consumption: Gas 17000KWh; Electricity 4300KWh Annual Cost £3492.90 I wonder who we should believe. https://www.britishgas.co.uk/energy/guides/average-bill.html

I’ve provided a link to a reliable source. You've provide zero evidence of what your opinion is based on.

Agreed. https://equalitytrust.org.uk/how-has-inequality-changed

And yet you never offered any verifiable evidence, just the ‘testimony’ of ‘former miner friends’ that supports your views. We should perhaps put this down to serendipity.

Renewables provide 43% of UK energy requirements. https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories/energy-explained/how-much-uks-energy-renewable

I don’t know anyone who thinks solar and wind power are the only way forward.

No, it was to do with breaking the unions. Working people in the UK have paid the price ever since. Wages lagging the cost of living, final salary pensions stripped away, workers rights decimated and the birth of the gig economy. The inflection point was 1979.

Hogwash. Arthur Scargill was very clear in his arguments, that the then Tory Government wanted to close the UK mines, throw UK miners out of work an import cheap coal from Poland. He was right, that is exactly what the Thatcher Government did.

Whenever I hear people quoting percentages without providing data to back it up, I file under nonsense.

You are missing something. Discussing a criminal act or even planning a criminal act is not illegal up and until any member in the discussion takes any action towards committing the crime. At that moment the crime of conspiracy to commit crime comes into play. I look forward to the court ruling.

Was that before or after they got rid of the smog?

You are barking up the wrong tree:

Excellent News. Well done President Biden.

Releasing convicts and giving them guns. That must have been a second bottle idea.

Modern homes rarely have fire places.

‘Sedition’

I have no idea if that’s even true, but don’t let that stop you, go on, tell us.

From the article: “It [National Grid] will also launch a scheme from 1 November which incentivises businesses and households to reduce their electricity use at key times:” Are National Grid referring to the electricity millions of people in the UK can’t afford to use? With the increase in prices this year I suspect per capita electricity use to be very much lower through the coming winter than it was the last.

Put the evidence before a Grand Jury, if they hand down an indictment, send it to court. Nobody is above the law.

As a Liberal I’m struggling with the concept of ‘Republican excess deaths’. If the Republicans believe encouraging their supporters to follow a course of action/inaction that results, by means of Darwinian selection, in a reduction of their own voter base why would any Liberal waste headspace worrying about it.

I can think of one former President who’s words we should not take seriously, on account of his recorded habit of constantly lying. You just referenced him.

It depends where you looked. Heseltine had a very good Conference this year. His side meeting to discuss the problems with Brexit and rejoining the EU was mobbed out, standing room only for scores of Conference Delegates and Industry Representatives.

Clearly some will not be convinced no matter what the evidence. Refer a couple of examples above.