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1 hour ago, billd766 said:

Try doing a search for yourself as many people do. As I usually do I have provided a link and an excerpt but the whole item is 12 pages long and this is just the first page to give you an idea.

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/US-Withdrawal-from-Afghanistan.pdf

 

When he came into office, President Biden believed the right thing for the country was
to end the longest war in American history and bring American troops home. As he laid
out to the American people, after twenty years, the United States had accomplished its
mission in Afghanistan: to remove from the battlefield the terrorists who attacked the
United States on 9/11, including Osama bin Laden, and degrade the terrorist threat to
the United States. Over two decades, the United States had also—along with our
NATO allies and partners—spent hundreds of billions of dollars training and equipping
the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces (ANDSF) and supporting successive
Afghan governments. At the outset, America’s goal was never to nation-build. But,
over time, this is what America drifted into doing. Two decades after the war had
started, America had become bogged down in a war in Afghanistan with unclear
objectives and no end in sight and was underinvesting in today’s and tomorrow’s
national security challenges.

 

President Biden’s choices for how to execute a withdrawal from Afghanistan were
severely constrained by conditions created by his predecessor. When President Trump
took office in 2017, there were more than 10,000 troops in Afghanistan. Eighteen
months later, after introducing more than 3,000 additional troops just to maintain the
stalemate, President Trump ordered direct talks with the Taliban without consulting with
our allies and partners or allowing the Afghan government at the negotiating table. In
September 2019, President Trump emboldened the Taliban by publicly considering inviting them to Camp David on the anniversary of 9/11. In February 2020, the United States and the Taliban reached a deal, known as the Doha Agreement, under which the United States agreed to withdraw all U.S. forces from Afghanistan by May 2021. In return, the Taliban agreed to participate in a peace process and refrain from attacking U.S. troops and threatening Afghanistan’s major cities—but only as long as the United States remained committed to withdraw by the agreement’s deadline. As part of the deal, President Trump also pressured the Afghan government to release 5,000 Taliban fighters from prison, including senior war commanders, without securing the release of the only American hostage known to be held by the Taliban.

Over his last 11 months in office, President Trump ordered a series of drawdowns of
U.S. troops. By June 2020, President Trump reduced U.S. troops in Afghanistan to
8,600. In September 2020, he directed a further draw down to 4,500. A month later,
President Trump tweeted, to the surprise of military advisors, that the remaining U.S.
troops in Afghanistan should be “home by Christmas!” On September 28, 2021,
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Milley testified that, on November 11, he had
received an unclassified signed order directing the U.S. military to withdraw all forces
from Afghanistan no later than January 15, 2021. One week later, that order was
rescinded and replaced with one to draw down to 2,500 troops by the same date.
During the transition from the Trump Administration to the Biden Administration, the outgoing Administration provided no plans for how to conduct the final withdrawal or to evacuate Americans and Afghan allies. Indeed, there were no such plans in place
when President Biden came into office, even with the agreed upon full withdrawal just
over three months away.

 

There are another 11 pages in the link.

 Are you quoting the White House? must be true! 

23 hours ago, transam said:

Wrong, over near 18 years, at least I can count..........

 Ah sorry only 5000 a year 400 a month - my mistake - carry on!  ✍️

I bet we know less than 1% about our universe

14 hours ago, transam said:

"Dems will try all their tricks", 🤣 you have been telling us for weeks Biden is useless, but now he is so clever he can fix election stuff.............🤣

 

I image next your Russian connections will fix it for Trump.........😂

 
Biden is just a tool, and you know it.  You forget Putin wants your Alzheimers Biden in post. 

3 hours ago, prakhonchai nick said:

All sports teams should automatically be segregated by biological sex. . Legal action is/should be totally unnecessary.

 Either that or let them all compete? Equal pay?  ok play five sets of tennis, jump in a F1 car or do a trial for Man United - if not they should shut up and separate genders. 

3 minutes ago, transam said:

Eh....?  

 Research - it can be your friend  😀

6 minutes ago, transam said:

Ooooh, so you're into extended family now to bolster your Red BS...........🤭

 Not unlike your wokies attacking family - at least they didn't have relations with their dead brother's wife - or do you think that's ok?  turned her into a crackhead, too - thankfully, she's ok now.  🤪

9 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Here's my prediction. 100 percent accuracy.

Either the democratic or republican nominee will win the electoral college.

If the republican nominee is the convicted felon and adjudicated rapist as expected, he will still claim that he won even if he loses and his dangerous cult will believe him just as they still believe he won in 2020 even though he lost.

He's not a convicted felon until the sentence is past - and, of course, it will be overturned. How about Hunter? Seduces his dead brother's wife? Crack addict?  and all the rest

What a joke!  the judge rejected a sweetheart plea deal - Biden visited the ex-GF - who happened to be his dead son's wife - you could not make it up!

2 hours ago, charleskerins said:

Biden and the wokies    aren't you cute?

 Thanks - I know you mean it coz you said it twice  😍

Is there NO COMPASSION in this land? Don't they think her life is horrific enough? And what about the 7-year-old?  it is HORRIFIC - God help them

53 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Nobody has stolen more money in the history of the world than your Dear Leader Putin.

 
Putin is no angel, but the West is not giving him BILLIONS in return for a proxy war. 

48 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Ukraine to seek secure parking for F-16s abroad

 

Ukraine will probably station F-16s in eastern Poland, and use them for limited missions, at first.

 

One reason is that F-16s require "clean" runways, which are rare in Ukraine.

 Nice target

3 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

I think it’s just impotence on Ukraine’s part.
 

They can do nothing to stop Russia’s advance, more and more villages are falling into Russian hands on a daily basis. They tried striking at the oil refineries. Some posters would have you think that this was the game changing strategy to “tatterise”(lol) Russia’s economy. Didn’t work, as expected.

 

So now, striking at targets that has zero strategic significance in the current conflict is nothing more than provoking  Russia further in the hope that Russia would take major retaliatory actions and hoping that this would force the US to get directly involved.

 

It’s the “Hope” strategy 

 
You are probably right - a CT might think it's preparation but it's probably as you describe. Let's hope so!

10 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Corruption in Ukraine?

 

It has always existed, and will continue for a long time.

 

Is that the theme of the day that your troll farm is pushing?

 

If you keep up your pointless propaganda posts, you might incent me to send Ukraine's army a donation.

The government is corrupt. I encourage you to send a large donation—good money after bad. Maybe send some to Zelenskys' offshore accounts?

9 hours ago, billd766 said:

FYI try doing a little research first.

 

https://www.studysmarter.co.uk/explanations/history/cold-war/soviet-invasion-of-afghanistan/#:~:text=The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan,%2C nine-year civil war.

 

The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan began on 24 December 1979. Within days, Soviet troops had been air-dropped into Afghan cities, heavy artillery had breached the border, and the KGB had poisoned the Afghan president and his ministers. The invasion sparked a bloody, nine-year civil war. The conflict would see approximately one million citizens lose their lives, the country razed to ruins, and ultimately contribute to the downfall of the Soviet Union.

 

https://www.britannica.com/event/Soviet-invasion-of-Afghanistan

 

The war in Afghanistan became a quagmire for what by the late 1980s was a disintegrating Soviet Union. (The Soviets suffered some 15,000 dead and many more injured.) Despite having failed to implement a sympathetic regime in Afghanistan, in 1988 the Soviet Union signed an accord with the United States, Pakistan, and Afghanistan and agreed to withdraw its troops. The Soviet withdrawal was completed on February 15, 1989, and Afghanistan returned to nonaligned status.

 

There is more in the link, and there are more links if you wish to look for them.

Different war - wake up, it's morning already! We were discussing the USA in Afghanistan in the 2020s, not the 1980s.

You know - the recent war 1999 to 2021 when they ran away after 2,500 American deaths and 20,000 injuries for NOTHING saying "we have trained the Afghanis with Billions, given them weapons they will win" 

Now the Burkas are back, female education is banned - great success! LOL

14 minutes ago, transam said:

Again you missed out, the same happened to your Russia (USSR), the same for them is happening in Ukraine, so much so, taxes are going up to pay for another failure. Even now asking for munitions from communist countries.......😋

 

But, I give you credit for standing by your chum, even if it is bluster........😉

 While you hum this tune, two other top Ukrainian officials resign. One of them, Mustafa Nayyem, claims abuse and mismanagement. These are among the hundreds of others who have left or been fired from the corrupt Ukraine government—what could possibly go wrong?

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Wrong generation. The Russians were there long ago. Gorbachev gave up and withdrew the troops.

Stallone made a movie about how he won the war in Afghanistan with his bow and arrows, or was that Vietnam? Perhaps it was with a helicopter in Afghanistan.

 I know - they withdrew. Americans were humiliated, and it cost them BILLIONS - the same as Ukraine.