43 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

The ( money ) printers will run hot ... but Recession will come anyway .

The $ will go where ...?

What is going on now, is not really a stimulus program designed to keep the country out of recession. . It's basically a life raft. But there will be a severe recession and possibly worse if a massive stimulus isn't applied once the coronavirus situation is mild enough to allow people to return to work.

"Well, what happens is that just as the economy is ready to recover, mass layoffs of school teachers, mass cutoff of unemployment benefits undermine the nation's recovery. This could end up being in a way, a little bit like what happened in 2008-2009 when we had a pretty effective response to the crisis, but then went to fiscal austerity, which meant that the recovery was very, very slow.

Even though this is a very different kind of crisis, we could have the same kind of story. "

https://www.businessinsider.com/paul-krugman-warns-of-fiscal-time-bomb-if-relief-insufficient-2020-4

28 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Germany has done great, so let's not pretend otherwise. 

 

Singapore, HK, Taiwan and South Korea (after it's initial shock) have. 

 

So is Sweden. Have a look at how they're coping.

Actually Singapore, HK, and Taiwan performed a lot better than Germany or Sweden. In fact their performance is remarkable given their proximity and/or level of travel between these nations and China.

15 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Don't you mean alternative facts, he is an expert at those.

 

But these lies made him look bad. Why not publicize the truth?

4 hours ago, Galomir said:

They are both right. US just tries to manipulate the publics perception. They paid the whole bill... Which was 50% off ????

If what the Russians were claiming it true. Considering that they already lied about it being entirely a donation, why would you credit their claim now?

40 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

Yes, I'm aware of all of that. My point is there never seems to be 100 Million or even 5 Billion to avert a catastrophe, or make our society more resiliant, but $6 Trillion is readily at hand, without question, without reading the details, in a matter of days. And 5.85 Trillion of that was agreed by both parties even before the negotiations started. The MULTINATIONAL corporation's interests came well before the people's.

What exactly does the 6 trillion consist of? I believe you are using that fact that 500 billion can be leveraged into 4 trillion in loans. Or am I mistaken?

4 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Better than France, Spain and Italy though

I believe it had a head start in those other countries. To accurately compare it's best to have a timeline dating from the earliest known cases of local transmission.

On 4/2/2020 at 9:21 AM, Nyezhov said:

Its amazing how folks think  lies and spin will become true if they simply keep repeating it.

I know what you mean. Take the lie told by the Kremlin spokesman that the medical supplies were a gift from Russia. All Trump had to do was say this was false. And yet he didn't? Why is it that he is so reluctant to say anything that might be viewed as negative about Russia and Vladimir Putin? Even when the lies actually diminish his standing?

Just now, stephenterry said:

It's a really great question with little current scientific evidence to support why New Orleans death rates materially exceeds New York.

 

On the assumption that both populations mostly follow the SAD diet and are similarly obese, it could come down to differing lifestyle habits. As an aside, rice and beans provide a complete protein source. Add green veggies, a few fruits, and cost of food for the poorest is low and should be manageable.

 

The three main USA killers are heart attacks, strokes and cancer, and obese people are at a high risk of blocked arterial plaque which the Covid19 virus could exploit on its journey to the lungs. Which still doesn't explain why New Orleans has a higher mortality rate. N.O. county also has a low smoking rate, so that's not an answer.

 

While race could be a genetic factor there are twice as many black americans in N.Y. state than in Louisiana. So no answer there.

 

i would suggest that the health care in N.Y. is far more capable of prolonging life than N.O. - and more financially accessible by the New Yorkers. Being poor in N.O. would hinder their recovery if they cannot afford the meds.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

They're not similarly obese. 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/poverty-obesity_b_1417417

As for African American population  it's 

25.1 percent for NY City

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_New_York_City

and 60.1 percent for New Orleans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._cities_with_large_African-American_populations

Here's a link to an article that explains why modeling Covid-19's course is so difficult.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-its-so-freaking-hard-to-make-a-good-covid-19-model/

And here's another to show the consequences of that:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/best-case-and-worst-case-coronavirus-forecasts-are-very-far-apart/

3 minutes ago, donnacha said:

Filipino food is unhealthy but it is also really, really hard to eat a lot of it.

This is one thing, at least, that you and I can agree on.

2 hours ago, Sujo said:

What act of charity?

The US paid for it.

Well, at the time he and the rest of us had no reason to believe otherwise. On the other hand, the Trump administration was very slow to make a correction. Especially given this statement:

"Trump gratefully accepted this humanitarian aid," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov was cited as saying by the Interfax news agency on Tuesday. Trump himself spoke enthusiastically about the Russian help after his call with Putin."

18 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

I wonder if he wasn't one of the "It's only the Flu" group of folks ....

Right. Was he saying anything significantly different from what Sean Hannity was saying just a few short weeks ago?

25 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

 

Not just exploit them. Proudly exploit them. Its Better for them to be exploited by Americans than by any other country in the world, including their own. Thats

 

 

Oh, that explains "why they batter down the doors to get into here."? Really? Nothing to do with the fact of a long shared border?  Yours is an utterly nonsensical post.

2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

When i went to San Fransisco and round about i could not believe the amount of extremely fat people, I'd never encountered it before, they can only blame themselves and their fat family and friends (caveat that something like 1% have a medical condition causing the fatness)

Really? This is the CDC obesity map for 2018

https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/prevalence-maps.html

Aircraft carrier captain removed from duty after pleading for help with coronavirus outbreak

The captain of an aircraft carrier struggling with a coronavirus outbreak has been relieved from command after a letter he penned pleading for help leaked to the media.

Capt. Brett Crozier was relieved from command of the USS Theodore Roosevelt, acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly announced Thursday.

Crozier wrote a letter to Navy leaders that was obtained and published by the San Francisco Chronicle on Tuesday, in which he warned of dire consequences if most of the sailors on Roosevelt aren’t evacuated.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/490892-aircraft-carrier-captain-to-be-removed-from-duty-after-pleading-for-help-with

13 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Pretty vague claims. How much more would you like some other guy to pay? And how much do you think it will change our revenue?

Maybe go back to the levels of the 1960's when the gsp growth rate of the US averaged over 4 percent. And when workers' standard of living consistently improved.

5 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

An anti-body treatment which could beat a vaccine to the punch? Bill and Melinda must be spitting blood.

The immunity antibodies give is relatively short lived. So it's great as a treatment and a short term preventative measure. But if you want a long term way to keep the virus in check, then it's vaccines. So no, not only are Bill & Melinda not spitting blood, but I heard they were actually popping open bottles of DP to celebrate this and similar promising developments.