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1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

Wrong page. This is the correct one. https://www.immigration.go.th/content/service_79

The change visa page is a mess and it is all wrong. You have to switch to Thai and use Google translate to find the correct links.

the page i posted is in english already and its how to get NON-O from outside of thailand.

the second page i posted is for extension.

if is not updated... dont know about that

the page you posted seems also good.. thanks

i have a funny story about this and believe me its real!

I was getting my NON-O visa at the thai embassy, the guy in front of me was getting a tourist visa.. officer asked him if he has 20K in the bank and has bank book or statement for it. He said yes. Pass

I gave my papers... no problem.. For NON-O you need 3-4 things thats all

The guy after me again for tourist visa.. And he was like ohh god i dont have 20K.. well his turn, officer asked nothing... Pass

funny eh?

i would put 20K in the bank for any case or on you

hi guys.

i went to this website which is thai gov website. Its for Non-O (marriage visa) documents.

https://www.immigration.go.th/content/service_75

there is definitely no sentences about 400K baht in the bank. Im not sure but if someone check it again and correct me if im wrong please.

BUT to get a 1 year NON-O visa... this is the website you need to read

https://www.immigration.go.th/content/service_18

which clearly says 400K in the bank if you dont have any 40K income

all i see is... Thai Imm trying to do things more harder than now as if its not hard enough.

I have an American friend and gets his NON-O (thai wife) 1 year extension by a income letter from his embassy. His income is not real. He just tells the embassy and they give a letter, thats all. Now some might thing its ok, some might thing its not fair at all. I think IMM noticed this and decided to take an action, which is fair enough.

What i dont understand is... why your income should be 40K? I mean when thai ppl get married their income not even 30K (most of them) so why the law changes when it comes to farang... Also why both husband and wife income not count?! One of my friends income is 31K + 8K = 39K he cant get an extension... for 1K.

If i understood correctly the most important thing they changed is this certificate the income letter and make sure you really have that income. The rest seems all same. For the retirements still no problem because i have another friend from the UK, and as mentioned before his pension come to Krungthai every month and no problem. He can use it with his Krungthai card. Also Bangkok Bank is great about this. They are more pro.

I believe their next action will be about NON-O 90 days visa run thing. As we all know they already stopped it in big borders. And i believe more is coming. So.. its really becoming more difficult and stressful getting NON-O and stay on it.

Thanks for the great info though! This is why i love this website.

arrive to nong khai. Go to the nearest ATM. Get 20k put it in something or somewhere safe. Cross come back spent it.

i have witnessed they sometimes ask sometimes not. Probably up to your visa numbers. They will let you go to the nearest ATM also. I saw that too. But u need to talk lot. If i remember correct there r no ATM around the border.

cant change sorry. I did that mistake on my very first non-o

go another country and get a new multi-o

yep all he needs a letter from the univ.

hi.

as far as i understand: at the moment your friend has a not extended NON-B visa right? but he cannot extend it because he needs to cancel his ED visa first.

well if his ED visa already expired.... and he left the country... he shouldnt have ED visa anymore if im not mistaken. Plus he got his non-o from laos already as you said. So all old visas canceled auto. There must be something else

What did they suggest him at the immigration?

5 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

He is not divorced yet. If he had a multiple entry non-o visa issued by an embassy or consulate it would remain valid after getting divorced,

Only a extension of stay based upon marriage ends on the date of divorce.

ok thanks

10 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

He on wrote marriage visa which people often call an extension of stay based upon marriage. He also asked about canceling it.

A visa cannot be canceled here in the country.

All that is required to apply for any extension of stay is a non immigrant visa. The rules do not state any category of non immigrant visa is required.

 

 

ok. wait. maybe i read wrong or understood wrong. But i think he is divorced and want to change his visa from non-o to non-b because hes working or he wants to work.

Now i dont know he can extend his non-o after he got divorced (which i dont think so because they want to see proper papers). 

And he cannot change his visa type in thailand. So soon or later he needs to go out of thailand for a new non-b. 

But maybe he can stay here until his contract ends and then go to another country and get his non-b. Because when he renewed his work permit they want to see his visa. and he cannot continue with non-o obviously.

So i still strongly suggest him to leave the country get a new tourist or non-b and come back. If its tourist you can change it here into Non-b (but be careful because some nationalities must go back to their hometown. It's a great fresh start and nothing complicated.

4 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You cannot change non immigrant visa categories within the country is correct.

It is possible to change the reason for an extension of stay without leaving the country.

yes but i think hes asking for changing his visa type to non-b. so.. hes holding a non-o now.  extension or not. to get a non-b he has to leave the country if im not mistaken. and up to his nationality he might need to go back to his hometown to do non-b

17 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

As said you will get a 90 day visa exempt entry for Malaysia. Better than having to apply for a visa at the Lao embassy.

No problem for a same day turnaround. Many have done it.

You will have to apply at the Lao embassy for a visa. Turkey is on the list " 27. Turkey"

yes thanks. seems im heading to kuala lumpur and come back same day afternoon ???? 

28 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Kuala Lumpur (Air Asia 2,100bht) sounds like the place for you to go, 90 day free visa waiver on entry.

If you go to Laos (Air Asia 1,800bht) it costs an extra $35/1500bht for a VISA on entry and a page from your Passport used.

 

Siem Reap (Air Asia 1,100bht) might work out cheaper.

thanks.. great info and help ???? seems its kuala lumpur then

edit: air asia kuala lumpur round trip 4672 baht same day

15 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

What passport do you hold?

Pointless asking without telling.

turkish. Normally no problem by border crossing and get a new 90 days. But this time i dont want to drive for hours and so on.. just want to fly and come back on the same day. As far as i know i cant get arrival visa at laos. Malaysia.. no need visa... But laos is faster.. so jsut need to know if there will be a problem at the thai immigration at the airport if i come back on the same day.

32 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You can do an out and back on the same day to get a new 90 day entry form your visa.

Not sure why you want to fly to Vientiane. Kuala Lumpur would be a better choice if you qualify for a visa exempt entry there.

You can get a Lao visa on arrival unless you are from one the countries shown on this webpage. https://www.laos-guide-999.com/laos-visa-on-arrival.html

thanks for the great info ????

i want vientiane because its cheaper to fly there than Kuala Lumpur. Haven't checked yet but i will soon. 

So, you sure i can fly and come back on the same day. No problem? 

thnx again

hi guys,

im on non-o (married with a thai wife)

well as you can imagine i have to do this visa thing every 90 days.

I was wondering if i fly to vientiene and come back to BKK on the same day?  like fly there morning. and afternoon come back to thailand and get another 90 days. I know normally no problem with this but i dont want to spent 1 night in laos. 

Also, im not american or european national.. so do you know if i can get a arrival visa at vientiene airport or its better to get it from the laos embassy in bkk?

thanks

i dont know if this will help you but im also on non-o with a work permit at univ.

what i know very sure is you cannot change your non-o to non-b in thailand. I tried that last year. And they say i cannot do that.

Also i dont know your nationality but now many nationalities must go back to their hometown and get a non-b from there.

i suggest you to leave the country (laos), get a new tourist or non-b and come back. You can change your tourist to Non-b  

good luck

1 hour ago, Caldera said:

To me, it sounds like the actual problem at the Kanchanaburi crossing is that Myanmar doesn't give a border pass to Turkish citizens, either in general or at that particular crossing at this time.

 

If that's indeed the case, then Thai immigration did the right thing by not letting the OP exit, as they would have been denied entry to Myanmar without having a visa for Myanmar.

agreed. thai side did the right thing.

Also the problem is they started asking for visa 2 months ago. So actually if i get a myanmar visa.. no problem again. I just didnt know that.

2 hours ago, Media1 said:

Surely these people can not decline a legitimate multi entry VISA. This is really becoming a proper scam job. He has every right to use the VISA. I think these people need to be reported formally 

agreed but cant argue with the imm officer there.. right?

also im sure imm officer has the right to decline your entry even though you have a legit visa. 

2 hours ago, Happy enough said:

thaivisaservice.com

bkk i think you can go from on nut and back by lunch time even by bus or if driving it's an easy straight road to myanmar

thnx ?

1 hour ago, time2093 said:

I can tell you that it does matter what your Nationality is when crossing a land border, I too am on a Non O visa based on marriage to a Thai and have a Israeli passport and was told by several Pattaya same day visa run companies that their Cambodia boarder crossing that they used will not accept Israel passport and assuming any other middle east, even Turkish as the OP. I had this confirmed by the visa agents calling their people at the border saying I will be denied. Fortunately I also live in Kalasin which is only a 2 and half hour drive to Mukdahan which probably is one of the friendliest land border crossing I experienced as never been denied based on nationality , no problems there.

yes thanks for the info. I agree that they are really friendly.. thats why im going there. Also my wife is from Khon Kaen.. so it will be better. 

27 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

sorry mate, whats your nationality. shouldn't matter for activating non o visas except poipet and even there they will but have been known to refuse. unless i'm wrong and some one can point it out. 

this time i will go Mukdahan. 

im sure thai side has no problem with doing non-o re entry on the same day

do you have any suggestions near BKK or nonthaburi?  Moderator said Ban Laem, south of poi phet

19 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

use the agency on the border. 900 baht or something. but maybe your nationality is different rules. check the rules here. don't waste time and money, you'll need that later in life. kanchan border should be fine for a border hop

well i will try again with the myanmar visa, sure.only i might have a problem on myanmar side. if they dont give me in and out stamp Thailand side might be problem. They can accept me with my old visa and days left on it OR not take me to thailand. Happened to me once at the Vientiene side. 6-7 years ago and the imm canceled my out stamp from thailand and made it like i never left that day. That day i found out theres no more arrival visas for turks on laos side. before they had.

so tbh theres no problem for other ppl. But most likely i needed a visa

30 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

sorry mate, whats your nationality. shouldn't matter for activating non o visas except poipet and even there they will but have been known to refuse. unless i'm wrong and some one can point it out. 

yea. well im turkish.. before only myanmar side stamp was enough ( 3 months ago) now they want visa. And for me that border agency thing at kanchanaburi is 960 baht. 

so i really want to try take visa and go to myanmar... how much that agency will charge me this time and also if myanmar side ok with visa. tbh politics between myanmar and turkey is not good at the moment.. we have a really SoB president 

1 minute ago, david kc said:

If I leave from airport in Bangkok, one day of overstay is ok but need to pay if it is 2 day of overstay ? correct?

seems yes