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    Just now, laosnative said:

    You can cross Savannakhet off your list of options, as Laos borders are still closed to all but a very select few....

    dont know about your other options though.

    yes i know but they will open borders soon i believe.. im pretty sure they are aware that many people will use land borders also. But thats why i will use my 60 day extension to play safe.

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    Just now, Peter Denis said:

    Hi @problemfarang

    No, I was reacting to your post addressing KalasinJo's situation.  That's why I inserted his name at the beginning, so that he would get a notification that he was mentioned in a post.

    Re your situation > You won't have any problems when not having used your 60-day extension yet.

    Thanks ???? I will also report back about nonthaburi IO about what happened in this week

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    2 minutes ago, nicelee808 said:

    Go to Savannakhet is an option but I only need to get a temporary stamp to apply for non b internally. So literally out and back in. But it's the quarantine that I will have to do. So quarantine to go out and quarantine to get back in.

     

    Yes i understand. Thats what i hate too. But think like this, you can tell your school that you have to do this and can teach online from hotel. Students can use the school computer like 5 student to 1 com. just bring your books and things you think you will need with you to the hotel in laos and thailand.

    in this matter, i think if your coming from a safe country like thailand and laos and if you have covid free certificate.. you should be free to enter without any problem. Because you have work permit, family... and your not covid. Im sure they will do something about this.

    27 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

    @Kalasin Jo

    The problem is that the 90-day permission to stay of his 1-year ME Non Imm O marriage Visa, already expired, and that he also already used the 60-day extension based on that Visa.

    So he needs to rely on the goodwill of his local IO whether they will accept his application for the 1-year extension of stay, now that he is on the Amnesty.

    Some IOs will not do that, their reasoning being that he did 'choose' for the Amnesty (and therefor accepted that he needed to leave the country once it was over) instead of applying for the extension when his permission to stay was still valid.

    He should enquire at his local IO about his options.  And obviously if they do allow him to apply for the 1-year extension of stay, he would also need to meet the 2 month seasoning-requirements of his funds on a thai personal bank-account which are part of the requirements for a 1-year extension of stay application.

    If everything fails and he cannot or doesn't want to leave Thailand, there is still the 'last resort' option of engaging a Fixer Agent and apply for a 1-year extension for reason of retirement (the marriage extension requires divisional approval and is hence more difficult and expensive to 'fix').

     

    hi Peter,

    im sorry im not sure but are you mentioning my situation? because if so i didnt use my 60 day extension yet. But probably i will because i dont think nonthaburi IO will accept my 1 year extension request. Well i will visit them in this week and we will see.. thanks

    Hi guys, Im on non-o multi and its expired (last 90 day entry expired too) not did 60 days family extension and have work permit too. Also my passport valid date will finish in 9 months. Applied for a new passport all ok just waiting for it to arrive to my embassy, which should be in this week.. max wednesday. My wife is coming to nonthaburi for a meeting (yes we cannot live together because of her (she is a high rank government officer, and my job. But of course we are together and notings fake). And go back to khon kaen on sunday. I have some insurance from my company just for covid19 i also have government social security thing which i pay every month and can be seen from my salary slip. But my account department told they dont have that white paper anymore and if i need to use it hospital can check my passport number and can see it. So the paper one i have is already expired. So while shes here i really want to try few things:

     

    1st: will try to apply 1 year non-o extension due to salary. Its probably a no but will try (visa expired). I heard from 2 people on this form that they did even though their visa expired. Can any one write me what do i need to take with me to the IO for non-o extension base on salary? Also please check my list:

    - 1 year tax papers. 3 or 4 pages total. 3 pages of something numbers on it (91) and 1 page the yellow slip saying i paid

    - Marriage certificates

    - Work permit (will expire in september but will be renewed)

    - Last month salary slip

    - Wife with me & her ID & house book

    - anything else?

     

    thanks

     

    2nd: If i cannot make it 1 year, im planning to use my 60 days extension for family visit (i think thats what its called) because i can do this even though my visa expired. Again what docs do i need? please check my list:

    - Marriage certificates

    - Wife with me & her ID & house book

    - anything else?

     

     

    3rd: If all cannot... there is no way but to go to Savannakhet. Now for Savannakhet things are different as we know. For non-o multi we need 

    - Marriage certificates

    - Wife ID & house book

     

    But now i think we are going to need few extra things such as covid clear certificate from a hospital not more than 72 hours. Also covid insurance about 100K dollars. How much will it cost me to do that insurance in thailand? and where can i do this? Questions starts here:

    - My government insurance is covering this 100K or not? Because im working in thailand with work permit

    - not sure if the insurance done from my company for covid19 enough or not. Its not that useless insurance company thing

    - do i need another covid free certificate from a laos hospital? How many days does it take back the results? i think few hours?

    - when i go to laos, they will put me under 14 days or not, because i have certificate saying im not covid. Same for thailand side another 14 days? I have a home, cant i do self quarantine? 

     

    I mean i was staying in thailand for the last 14 years no covid.. im going to laos a covid free country for 2 days and coming back to thailand again plus i have covid free certificate...

     

    I think this is what will happen:

    Nonthaburi IO will say no to my 1 year extension but yes to 60 days. So i will do that because i really dont think amnesty will be another month. and next week is the best time to do so. After 60 days i really think things will be better.. Go to savannakhet do the non-o come back and do 1 year extension...

     

    PS: theres another option. I can go to khon kaen and try there for 1 year extension. I heard they are more helpful about this. But im not staying there any more

     

    well.. thanks for any help or suggestions.. 

     

     

     

    I was in your shoes once. About non-o and non-b. The reason why you cannot change it to non-b is because your entry is not for working but family matters. You can work with non-o but they think you will extend it or likewise. I know its funny. but... amazing thailand. 

     

    The best thing you can do is.. wait for the end of july, go to Savanakhet and get another non-o. Not non-b. why? it happened to many of my friends. Most likely school will not keep you long time. I mean 1 or 2 years. After that you have to leave the country in 24 hours if you have non-b but if you have non-o you dont need to leave the country and look for another job. Also when you leave to get a new visa at savanakhet, they wont give you another TR visa. it happened to one of my friends at my company.

     

    good luck

    11 hours ago, Kalasin Jo said:

    Yes. My Savanakhet non O multi by marriage expired a few days after entry. At entry I got 90 days. I then got 60 day extension before that expired as I could see that border closures were imminent and certainly didn't want to get stuck in Laos so I didn't head over to Savanakhet. 

     

    Not much later along came the "amnesty" and I cursed that I'd used the 60 day extension. That expired 9 June. 

    I actually intended to leave Thailand on 1 May with my wife and head to France, where I have a home and am actually resident. I only spend around 6 months a year here usually in 2 90 day slots.  So also intended to pop over to Savanakhet for a fresh non O multi for the year.

    We still want to get to France  and for me asap now, but I felt that getting a 1 year extension plus a re entry permit before leaving would secure the next 12 months, subject we now know to the currently stringent Thai Covid entry conditions...for both of us! When I leave I won't be coming back on those conditions so I guess I won't be coming back for some time even though my wife may have to after 90 days unless we get her a French longer term residency permit.

     

    So obviously I didn't get to Savanakhet nor did I leave as our flights were cancelled. I thought I was covered by the " amnesty" or whatever it technically is and that surely things would be easier by its end. Now, obviously not. Now also my wife needs a new visa for France which is in hand, appointment next week.

     

    I went in to Kalasin IO on 8 June to clarify what's needed by them to add on a 1 year marriage permission. Plus a further visit when they talked about 1 year bank statement plus proof of source. It's now been a further month on getting that together. 

     

    So @Tanoshi you think I've wasted my  ( considerabl amount now) time on this and if I visit the IO on Monday I should ask for an in country issued non O as if since 10 June I've been here visa exempt by way of the "amnesty"?

     

    What's needed for that?

     

    And if they play ball on that then apply for a 1 year marriage extension before the 90 days is up with either adequate proof of 40k a month for 2 months or 400k in the bank for 2 months.

     

    Well I can't whisk up 400k until next year, so would be income, no problem as long as they accept the letter I have about it's source and and which do now show as foreign transfers.

     

    But I do not want to be here for another 3 months, actually at least 4 months allowing for the under consideration period for the extension. I need to get back to France where things need some attention after  6 months away! And in 5 may be 6 months would be considering return to Thailand in the normal course ie next year. Well who knows where things will be by then these days.

     

    So my question still remains, after that long commentary: is it worth going in to the Kalasin IO ith what I now have and formally applying for a 1 year extension by marriage, income based, or should I pull the plug on that and just leave as soon as we can get a flight out ( once my wife has her new visa  which I am confident she will after emails from the French Embassy).

     

    I must say I'm not confident of success with Kalasin IO but I have a tendency once I've invested time and effort either to be a dog with a bone....or for flogging dead horses ( take your pick!).

     

    Any further thoughts?

     

     

     

     

    i think it worth so much to do 1 year extension. Many reasons, but i will write 2 best: do you really think its good idea to go to europe these days? And if the IO said you can extend it, just do it. you have nothing to lose but many plus. 

     

    I will try this week based on salary too, but probably cannot because my visa expired and i dont think nonthaburi IO is ok with that. So you are lucky, go for it. I dont even know why you are thinking about it. lol

    49 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

    1 - Yes, if you relocate from Nonthaburi to Khon Kaen province, you will then report to IO Khon Kaen.  This might be useful if Nonthaburi refuses your application, when you learned on the Forum that it will be accepted in Khon Kaen.

    Don't know about the house-check, but thought that was only applicable during the under consideration period when applying for the 1-year extension of stay for reason of marriage.  And depending on the IO it seems this is very seldom, occasionally or always done, announced or unannounced.

     

    2 - The two cases mentioned in earlier posts (the one at Phayao and the one in Roi Et) did exactly that.  First applying for the 60-days extension of stay for family reasons, and at the end of those 60 days applying for the 1-year extension of stay from that valid non-Amnesty based permission to stay. 

    But I would suggest you enquire at your Nonthaburi IO whether they will accept an application for a 1-year extension of stay of your Non Imm O (or O-A) Visa when the permission to stay date has already expired during the Amnesty.  If yes, problem solved.  If no, enquire whether applying after having first done a 30-day or 60-day extension, would be accepted. If yes, problem solved.  If no, consider temporary relocation to apply at a more lenient IO.

     

    thanks. i will check with nothaburi IO coming week, waiting for my new passport

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    2 hours ago, Peter Denis said:

    Many thanks!

    Crystal clear case of how it will pan out when applying at the IO in Roy Et for a 1-year Non Imm O Visa or a 1-year extension of stay when your permission to stay already expired..

    The answer is NOPE, but there is an escape route if you didn't already use up your 30- or 60-day extension of stay application.

    At least there is CLARITY about their stance, which will allow those that need to apply at Roi Et and will be refused because of no alternative extension escape road, to prepare for their next move.

    A possible solution could be a temporary relocation to a province where the IO will accept their application for the 1-year extension of stay even when their permission to stay already expired during the Amnesty.

     

     

    dont they send someone from IO to check your house? and the time they send this officer is not known if im not mistaken, can be in 3 days can be in 3 months? i asked because im working in nonthaburi and my home is here. my non-o is expired.. so if nonthaburi IO says no i can go khon kaen to my wife house and try in khon kaen

     

    Also if i get 60 days extension.. it counts a valid visa.. can i try 1 year extension then?

     

    thanks

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    On 7/7/2020 at 12:44 PM, nera123 said:

    Hmm, maybe we do not speak about the same blue card !?

    You mean the security social card?.. what is blue too!!

    All depending on the amount contributed, as we working seasonal, we do not pay all years round and and the contributions will return in October only, the amounts contributed will never be high enough to cover the conditions, but I will still ask ...Thank you

     

     

    Hi there are some really useless insurance companies. and funny coincidence they are almost all blue color. Technically and officially government insurance should be enough. But this is thailand and no one knows whats coming in 2 weeks. And yes, the the amount of your covid insurance is important. 100K in this case. Im pretty sure government's insurance is not enough for this but better found out. And let us know too please. thanks

    On 7/4/2020 at 2:52 PM, nera123 said:

    Yes, I have this blue card..I think that will never meet the requirment, but will looking..Thank you

     

    its up to your blue card or which company it is. If its one of that useless insurance companies.. then yes no good. But this one im talking about is my company did it just for covid. So it must work. but i dont know about 100K they are talking about.

    49 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

    It is unknown when the border crossing will open again and what the requirements will be then.

    If the borders open to Laos there is no reason at this time you could not apply for a multiple entry non-o visa at the consulate in Savannakhet.

    There are no bubbles yet.

     

    47 minutes ago, BritTim said:

    Travel bubbles do not yet exist. Countries in the region that are Covid-19 free have decided to protect their citizens against reentry of the virus into Thailand by the use of strict border controls. The concept of a travel bubble is that bilateral agreements would be made between two countries that are Covid-19 free to allow much easier travel between those countries. It is unknown at the current time if travel bubbles will become a reality and, if so, when.

     

    thank you guys 

    hi guys,

     

    So i keep hearing things about this travel limitations or bubble thing or numbers who can visit thailand or enter the kingdom... or likewise

     

    So if i have a work permit and non-o multi visa, after july, i cannot go to laos and get a new visa? Also they say if i can get a visa most likely i have to stay 14 days in quarantine at a hotel room selected by the government... plus this corona insurance and corona free certificate from a hospital not more than 72 hrs seems to be for real. Its for sure there will be no TR visa for a really long time for europe or america.

     

    Basically can someone explain me what are these numbers who can enter the kingdom (22.000 / 2000 / 100 thing)?  What is this bubble thing? 

     

    Am a wrong or there is no chance to get a non-o multi for at least 2-3 months even the borders are open after july?

     

    thanks

     

    2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

    You only had one visa that expired and that does not matter now since you're already in the country.

    Your 90 day permit to stay expired at some time and that is the only thing that matters now.

    You could of applied for a 60 day extension to visit your wife when your 90 days ended. You can still apply for one on or before July 31st if needed.

    You need to contact your local office about applying for a one year extension of stay while on the "automatic extension" your on now. Some offices do not consider it a extension of your 90 day non-o visa entry.

    If you filed a tax return for last year you will need a copy of it and monthly tax payment receipts to prove your 40k baht income.

     

     

    thanks Joe,

    i will check the situation with the nonthaburi immigration today afternoon and update the info for the people having the same issue. But first need a new passport anyway which means at least 2 weeks

    Hi guys,

     

    So i have a work permit with my NON-O multi visa. My visa expired March, but i had my last 90days re-entry so my stamp expired on 5thMay. Also my passport date will expire in April 2021. Im planning to get a new passport via my embassy which will take 2 weeks time. So i will apply in next week. I dont have 400K in the bank at the moment but my salary is more than 40K. Im married. My work permit will expire in September. Not did any extensions with my visa yet in thailand. Company did us covid insurance. Never did TM30 because never went to immigration for 5-6 years now. i believe there are many we are on the same boat. Questions:

     

    - I know i can apply for 1 year extension due to salary. BUT as you can see my all visas are expired. And im under auto visa thing. Can get a new passport before July. So can i still apply for a 1 year extension even though my visas?

     

    - If i can apply for 1 year extension due to salary i can imagine these things are needed as documents please edit if i hadnt included something:

     1) marriage certificate original & copy 

     2) wife goes with me (although shes working for the government and she has a high position so we cannot live together at the moment, but i believe she can come here for a couple of days to help me with the visa)

     3) salary slip of the last month or like last 6 months?

     4) letter from my company about my salary?

     5) my contract?

     6) wife house papers.

     7) marriage photos and other photos as well?

     8) .....

     

    - if i cannot apply for any kind of extension should i wait for the end of july and go to savanakhet and get a new non-o with a my new passport and get a 1 year extension? and again what docs i need? Im reading things like they will not give non-o visa yet even though borders and embassy is open, is it true or just ideas? I also heard there are numbers like how many farang can enter thailand, is it also true? I have work permit but on non-o visa so if they dont give non-o visa, can i still get non-o because of my valid work permit? I cannot get a non-b because im in the 22 countries which i have to get it from my country only.

     

    - if nothing can be done, do i have any other options?

     

    thanks

    On 6/18/2020 at 2:50 PM, reallyaffiliated said:

    Could my GF set up the company? She is Thai and living in BKK.

     

    let me give you a solid short answer: 

    -yes she can set up a company because she is a thai and she can open or start a business without any problem. Yes she can give you a work permit BUT first of all she needs a permit from the labor office or similar office that states her company needs a foreigner to do a specific job or work which thai citizen is not capable of to do that (example; english language school needs a native speaker teacher OR Mexican restaurant hires a mexican, etc.) If she can proves that its a job or work only you can do, no problem she can get the permission. My friends wife has a real estate business, she hired her husband to sell or rent houses to foreigners in another countries. You can see these kinda thing in pattaya often.

     

    -yes you can start a business in your name, if you invest 2mil baht. (it was like this few years ago im not sure how much nowadays). And if you do so you can get a visa for 2 years and extend it like every 2 yrs.

     

    good luck

    PS: i know this because i tried to do this like 5 yrs ago. So if it changed please correct me, thanks. Bu i think its still the same

     

    2 hours ago, BritTim said:

    Actually, my expectation is that the passport country will not matter. I envisage all the countries in a travel bubble having the same quarantine requirement and other restrictions for those entering from infected countries. If, say, travelling from the US to Thailand, you would have to undergo quarantine in Thailand before onward travel to another Covid-19 free country within the bubble. That is what will enable relatively safe travel (even with full planes) between virus free countries. All this is going to take time to negotiate, but is clearly in the interests of the countries involved.

     

    i agree with this one. I was also thinking the most important is where you are entering the country. If you are coming from a low-level danger country i think things will be different then someone coming directly from the USA or Brazil... 

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