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MG big boss sits as EV association president, insists Thailand must be a production base for export to Europe. https://www.prachachat.net/economy/news-1646266
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There is an article on khaosod they have blurred out the logo on the steering wheel but didn't blur out the air vents design so everyone knows what the brand is
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No in this case it was an accident lady was driving it start raining hard unable to see what was on the road due to flood water car hit something that pierce a hole in the battery pack driver got home next day started car drove less than a kilometer. A turtle symbol came up about a system failure. The moisture barrier had a problem. The battery icon came up again. Then the steering wheel locked and the car went into a coma.”. https://www.matichon.co.th/local/news_4777754 Case does highlight that if you battery issues and you need to call a tow truck while both the customer and the call centre may opt for the nearest service centre being the cheapest in distance the call centre should advise that the nearest doesn't have the necessary equipment to handle battery removal and should advise customer tow truck should go the nearest service centre that supports battery removal
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A hopeless girl's EV car has water damage and the battery is broken. The insurance company has not paid the claim and suggested putting it in the sun. The insurance company said that they will expedite the process. The insurance is the responsibility of the insurance company. Neta Company could not answer much. The company already informed that the battery should be replaced by informing the insurance company, but the insurance company disappeared. They contacted again on August 29. It is also not advisable to expose the battery to sunlight. The battery was damaged by water and short-circuited. There is a high risk of malfunction and danger to customers who will be harmed. https://www.matichon.co.th/local/news_4777754
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8 Chinese carmakers aim to propose EV3.0 terms adjustments, the cause of the “EV price war” However, there is an idea to propose to the government to adjust the conditions for compensatory production, where companies participating in the EV 3.0 measure must produce 1.5 times the amount previously imported for sale, because the current market situation is in a severe slowdown. When production in Thailand began, it could not be sold and could not be exported anywhere, resulting in a lot of stock remaining, so prices had to be reduced to clear the products. “Now that the market situation is bad, operators have no choice but to reduce prices because if they join the measure and do not produce, they will be fined, which is more than 500,000-600,000 baht per vehicle. Therefore, it is better to reduce prices rather than being fined. https://autolifethailand.tv/chinese-embassy-ev-price-war/
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I don't have an issue with that method majority of pickup sales are already included in R.Y,1 It should be noted just reporting on R.Y.1 will be undereporting of EV sales figures Byd,MG and Aion do have registrations in other dlt vehicle categories Cars in Thailand are divided into 17 types according to the Motor Vehicle Act of 1979 and the Wheel Act of 1930, each with different characteristics and usage patterns. As a result, the annual tax, transfer fees, and documents for the Department of Land Transport are different. Let's get to know the different types of registered cars. Example if a national taxi association placed an order for 50,000 EV's they would go unreported as they would come under R.Y.6 Type 6: Passenger cars for hire carrying no more than 7 people And you need to decide what is the purpose of these reports if it is yearly sales then it should be from 1st February to 31st January If RY6 and RY10 were include in August 2024 figures EV numbers would increase from 6,211 to 6,376
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article is incorrect regarding number of ev's sold in 2023 autolife published number of registrations for 2023 as 76,314 and this number doesn't include December sales under EV 3.0 subsidy which ended 31st December 23;59 Data from the Department of Land Transport indicate that the EV market has not been particularly strong since the beginning of the year. January recorded the highest number of registrations for the year at 13,321 units, driven partly by a rush to register before the January 31 deadline to qualify for benefits under the EV promotion plan, EV 3.0, which offers a 2% excise tax and a subsidy of up to 150,000 baht. https://www.nationthailand.com/blogs/business/automobile/40039276 totall number of ev sales for 2023 is in the region of 89,000
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In the same speech Yu Jingmin mentioned about the S5 model launching in November. This car is a relatively small electric SUV that uses lithium iron phosphate batteries. It will not be possible to fit a solid-state battery in such a model for a long time until 2030 at the earliest. Initially, such batteries will be exclusive to more high-end models and competing against NCM chemistry batteries. Xu Yanhua, Secretary-General of the China Automotive Power Battery Industry Innovation Alliance, has stated that before 2030 the battery market in China will still be dominated by liquid batteries. https://carnewschina.com/2024/09/04/mg-will-launch-an-ev-with-a-solid-state-battery-in-the-first-half-of-2025-claims-saic/ MG Cyber GTS might be 1st vehicle using solid state battery
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As previosly explained before EV's ICE had 100% market share so you only need to sell one EV and the statement that ICE is losing market share would be correct
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look forward to you providing backup evidence of serious price reductions across all ICE brands trying to reduce their oversupply of stock I haven't seen any evidence to support such a claim as for ICE brands closing their factories that happens all the time when the Brand feels the factory is surplus to requirements it happen to Honda Swindon factory when the EU and Japan agreed a FTA deal
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However, the picture regarding sales for the year so far was significantly different. Despite its strong showing in July, BYD only managed to clinch eighth place from January to July, based on sales of 1,714,100. Sales for Geely were significantly lower, at 577,700, with the brand managing eighteenth place overall. Once again, Toyota and Volkswagen were in first and second place, respectively, but Honda came in third for the year so far. https://carnewschina.com/2024/09/04/byd-was-third-best-selling-brand-in-the-world-in-july-this-year/
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If that is correct we would be seeing serious price reductions across all ICE brands trying to reduce their oversupply of stock but the only serious price reductions are from EV brands Its all down to supply and demand Little demand either reduce production or reduce price if demand exceeds production no need to reduce price
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You are correct number of Hybrid's registered in August 2024 were 10,915
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@ExpatOilWorker I get the same numbers as you RY1 41,433 for August 2024 and 6,211 for EV's Market share is 14.99% Looking at autolife figures for 2023 year on year August 2023 EV figures were 6,611 So the industry predictions seem to be correct that 2024 number of EV sold will be less than 2023
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Ora canceled White Car and Black Cat small EVs due to losses, despite strong sales For most producers, selling 20,000 cars of a model a month would be seen as a success, but in the case of Ora an EV brand from Great Wall Motor, such sales meant a loss. This was the explanation Dong Yudong, CEO of Ora, gave for the discontinuation of the Black Cat and White Cat small electric hatchbacks over the last couple of years. In an interview, Dong explained the decision and outlined the economics. Although the Ora brand has had monthly sales in the region of 20,000 for the Black Cat and White Cat models, according to Dong, the brand lost 10,000 yuan (1,400 USD) with each sale. He says that the monthly loss was more than 200 million yuan (28 million USD) which was unsustainable for the brand. https://carnewschina.com/2024/09/02/ora-canceled-white-car-and-black-cat-small-evs-due-to-losses-despite-strong-sales/
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The Article clearly states "BYD, Volkswagen, Toyota and their peers sold 396,000 hybrid cars to mainland buyers in July, or 45.1 per cent of total EV deliveries, according to data published by the China Passenger Car Association (CPCA). Their share increased from 34.3 per cent in the same month last year." https://www.scmp.com/business/china-business/article/3276389/cheap-and-efficient-hybrid-cars-gain-favour-china-evs-stoke-range-anxiety
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I don't think he provided a breakdown of number of EV vs Hybrid Stronger demand for hybrid vehicles over pure EVs is not peculiar to China. They made up 60 per cent of new EV sales globally in May, according to data by research firm Autovista. Sales of hybrid and fully-electric cars in China make up about 65 per cent of sales globally. https://www.scmp.com/business/china-business/article/3276389/cheap-and-efficient-hybrid-cars-gain-favour-china-evs-stoke-range-anxiety
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Cheap and efficient: hybrid cars gain favour in China as EVs stoke range anxiety Hybrid cars made up 45.1 per cent of total EV deliveries in mainland China in July, versus 34.3 per cent a year ago, according to industry data Dealers said many buyers turned to hybrid cars on heightened concerns about rapid battery depletion in winter. Video clips showing dozens of EVs stuck in a snowstorm in central Hubei province during the Lunar New Year went viral in February, after their batteries ran out of juice. The incident reinforced fears among car buyers that fully-electric cars are still not reliable for long-haul travel. https://www.scmp.com/business/china-business/article/3276389/cheap-and-efficient-hybrid-cars-gain-favour-china-evs-stoke-range-anxiety
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I know and I corrected my Post as for comments about Alzheimer's? or dementia In my opinion poor state shown by posters My mothe died from a long battle with dementia
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Clearly forum members are concerned about price reductions one forum member told MG that they could take their cyberster to where the sun doesn't shine becase they refused to provide him with a price reduction guarantee There was a news article recently where over 50+ Byd owners want Byd to buy back their vehicles due to the huge price reduction So clearly people are concerned about EV price reductions On the MG ZS it clear why MG have only reduced the price of the MG ZS as replacement model will be announced either in the December 2024 motor show or the March 2025 motor show MG ZS petrol registrations for the past 19 months January 1st 2023 to 31st July 2024 4,122 MG ZS EV registrations for the same period 2,074 Hence no price reductions on MG ZS petrol for the past 4 years
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As far as I am aware the Battery prices for MG ZS EV,EP and ES haven't reduced in price much they are using a different technology to other vehicles they are using modular batteries which is made up of 6 batteries joined together The MG EP and New MG ZS EV models have modular batteries , with 1 battery pack consisting of 6 battery modules. Each module can be replaced. The price per module is 75,000 baht Therefore, if both car batteries are damaged, the advantage for users is that they can replace only the battery module, not the entire battery. While the MG 4 Electric car has a cell2pack (CTP) battery , the price will be 525,000 THB (Not include VAT) https://www.prachachat.net/motoring/news-1229139 The battery price reductions that we have seen in the media are mainly for the cell2pack which have come down in price by approx 50% You are right about to be concerned about the rate of battery improvements and it worth checking out which models have plastic battery covers and which ones have metal battery covers doing a search in the motor forum for rat or rodent will explain why
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If you purchase a vehicle how much do you expect the Brand to reduce the price in a 4 year period and would you buy the vehicle knowing that the price could be reduced by nearly 50%
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And you have the added bonus that your 2022 MG ZS EV has only reduced in price by MG B350,000 compared to B591,000 if you had bought the ZS EV in 2020
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And you are ignoring the fact that anyone that bought a MG ZS EV in 2020 would have seen the value of their car being reduced by the Brand by a whopping B591,000 It seems you made the right choice in 2020 going with the MG ZS and not the MG ZS EV as you said yourself hard to justify extra B500,000 for ZS EV at the time https://aseannow.com/topic/1233709-electric-vehicles-of-all-kinds/#comment-16864154
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Your earlier car comparison didn't turn out well when comparing MG ZS with MG ZS EV The figures are using lots of Cherries 2020 MG ZS EV purchase price B1,190,000 2020 MG ZS purchase price Model D B700,000 On one2car 2020 MG ZS price range from B309,000 to B428,000 On one2car 2020 MG ZS EV price range from B386,000 to B499,000 Current new prices for MG ZS EV B599,000 Current new price for MG ZS model D B599,000 MG ZS EV 2020 price has been reduced by B591,000 MG ZS 2020 model D price has been reduced by B101,000 On top of all of the above add insurance costs for MG ZS EV compared to MG ZS