madmen

7 minutes ago, AussieBob18 said:

You dont think this is going to be applied to those already here on a 12 month O-A Visa? Good luck.

You dont think this is going to be applied to those who apply for any 12 month O Visa? Good luck.

You dont think this is going to be applied to those already here on any 12 month O Visa? Good luck.

Please read the financial requirements needed for extension's and then come back and tell us why you think it will apply to them

2 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

Well, can you clarify what you meant? 

 

I was simply stating a fact:  "...Currently the police order pertains only to new applicants, not for those seeking an extension..."

 

Your reply to that statement makes no sense:  "impossible to implement, aside that most expats I know have the money to cover or have insurance, only those using agents for 12 month extensions are questionable"  

 

sound's like he is a retired politician lol....word spaghetti

4 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

Currently the police order pertains only to new applicants, not for those seeking an extension, but it's only logical that renewal of extensions will be included in the near future.  It will happen, and soon!   

 

If there is one thing Thai legislators are VERY good at, and do with ease, it's drafting new regulations to make things as difficult as possible for Expats...LOL!

 

Extension a!ready need 400 k a year  in a Thai bank the EXACT amount OA need in insurance !

This is why extension were left out of the announcement

3 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Mugged twice in Manila on short visits, never once anywhere in Thailand in over 30 years.

A very good who friend who lived in our condo went to live there and was back in 2 weeks ! Home invasion , tied up with a knife to his throat. 

10 minutes ago, iJustWanttoKnow said:

Hope this will be made clearer soon. 

 

Been here almost 14 years - not really many issues. But I had always considered that the 800,000 baht in the bank was a de-factor insurance policy. Have a health issue then use this 800,000 baht - it is two times the required insurance policy.

 

What am I missing here?

No need for insurance on retirement extension. This is not about extension. ignore the scare Mungers crystal ball gazing and endless what if scenario's.

3 hours ago, uncleeagle said:

it initially wont apply. But what happens if in a year or so they say it will apply to everyone over 50

 extension's ALREADY need to have the 400k in the bank.

Non OA need 400k insurance, not rocket science

57 minutes ago, akda said:

Typically Thai women are naturally lean.

 

If someone desire chubby and more kilos they should go to western countries. 

I read many news article that western people are suffering from overweight, specially women and children. 

 

Not anymore and especially after 40 they grow sideways at an alarming rate. They are short so it doesn't take much

42 minutes ago, HHTel said:

And they wonder why there is a tourist slump!

Oh dear and they reckon Thais are a bit slow

1 minute ago, BertM said:

eems to me what the gov't is doing (be it intentional or not) is making O-A visa holders buy in-country medical coverage since those visa holders are not required to keep 800k/400k in a Thai bank

You are 100% correct ..both require 400k ,one in the bank the other with insurance

1 hour ago, La Migra said:

then extending it to all long term visas (and extensions) seems to make sense.

extensions are required to have 400k in the bank. Gee what coinidance that the new insurance is also 400k !!

2 hours ago, Pib said:

I bet a lot of folks use Non-OAs based on the posts I've read over the years. 

 

And what makes it bad is immigration could wake-up tomorrow and decide since non-OAs and extensions of stay are really the same thing---both long stays of 1 year---we need to apply the medical insurance rule to extensions also....just all one year long stays regardless of what their official names are.

Compared to retirement extension? I've been here many years and living in a farang ghetto lower suk I can confirm the many expats I know are all on retirement extensions . This insurance will probably only effect a very small percentage of expats

15 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

Yes, I know these policies are specifically written to meet TI requirements.

 

The problem is they are dreadful policies, poorly designed with completely inadequate levels of cover and grossly overpriced (inevitable when you design a product solely for the elderly).

 

Meanwhile people with real, meaningful insurance policies are excluded. Ridiculous.

 

No one in their right mind is going to cancel a "real" policy that they have held for years and provides ample cover. And who on earth, already having such insurance, is going to spend that kind of money for a second, largely useless, policy? Might as well just pay for an Elite Visa.

 

Or go elsewhere.

How many people will it really effect? Most of the majority are on retirement extension

I suspect the number would be tiny

7 minutes ago, kevinmartyn said:

Well i checked around and found cost excessive at 65! 7k to 22k USD/year.

 

To that end i cannot afford the cost! Anyway just have to plan and leave my Thai wife.

 

 I'm convinced the "Thai Government" will take good care of her like i have been doing for the past 11 years!

So dump your wife over an insurance policy? its true Thailand does attract the lowest of the low.

2 hours ago, AussieBob18 said:

So at this stage it is mandatory for every entry under an O-A Visa to have 12 months medical insurance.  So if you arrive first time = compulsory. If you leave and re-enter = compulsory.

 

But for those that enter and stay, and are seeking an extension of their permission to stay, it is not (yet) mandatory.  What are the odds that it will soon be mandatory for a 12 months extension of an O-A Visa's permission to stay? 

Even better odds - the IOs will interpret that it is required for any 12 month extension - even if Immigration do not specifically make that decision.

 

 

Stop muddying the waters. Either back it up with a link or stay on topic

As above. Even though its illegal Thais especially will rent by the day

20 minutes ago, fforest1 said:

Agreed Pattaya attracts cheap charlie Westerners

Not true. Just because pattaya is cheap doesn't mean the tourists are. Every one of my friends all have good paying jobs / businesses with plenty of disposable income and come here for the girls . 

3 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Is Google on the ground in Pattaya?

 

Are you even in Pattaya?

 

I know what I see, and I know why I am seeing it, or more to the point, why I am not seeing it.

 

Pattaya is too cheap and nasty for the seriously wealthy Indians, and too expensive for the package holiday Indians for them to spend freely. 

 

Similarly, Pattaya / Thailand has now positioned itself in a strange place, where this also applies to westerners. 

 

 

Your kidding? I just got back from Pattaya and plenty of them .Back in my condo lower sukhumvit and my soi has hotels  and Indians causing traffic chaos insisting on walking in the middle of the soi , plenty here to

like I said go to Google and every link will confirm the new generation are big spenders!! none of them say "except in pattaya" lol

16 minutes ago, Leaver said:

You paint a picture of them being big spenders.  They holiday like backpackers.  ????

Go to Google

Type in "are Indian tourist big spenders"

Educate yourself. ☺

Its ironic how big bwana have stopped coming here and thousands of expats flee because they don't have enough $$$ to stay in a developing country yet they mock the Indians who are now arriving in droves

What a bizzare twist of fate for the white boys

17 minutes ago, metempsychotic said:

a crazed cock

You in Pattaya?

Its hardwired in the DNA in primal level  and its out of their control