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strikes me that they haven't decided whether it is better for them to have him nailed as a drug user or not, quite handy for them to have both a negative and a positive result They can then refer to which ever better suits the narrative Its not exactly relevant to know what substances he took 30 days ago it would not produce any evidence of intoxication at the time he went on his killing spree A hair test could provide evidence of drug use up to 90 days ago again irrelevant

You started it , going on and on and on about when he was sacked tedious indeed you should re read what you have posted in response to my comments, you seem to search for any opportunity to start petty arguments The fact remains he was not a police officer at the time this took place any other comments are superfluous There is no whataboutism whatsoever anywhere in my comments

Do you expect them to say anything else under the circumstances Personally i wouldn't. But I am surprised they have not apologised or offered an explanation to excuse their pathetically slow response

So If he had been sacked in 2019 this could not have happened?

But their existing procedures were successful in routing him out , Maybe just slower than desired, but there don't seem to have been any similar major issues between him being identified as a "wrong'un" and finally sacked. This atrocity happened afterwards

So if he had been sacked back in 2019, would his previous employment be so important, ? He slipped through the net as some will inevitably manage to do, but he was caught and sacked . He was not a policeman when he carried out his atrocity and I don't see how his former employment facilitated what happened

A cop who had been suspended and sacked before the awful events we are discussing

Absolutely, I also wonder how many of those so quick to bash the police have ever had any personal interaction with them at all. Not many I reckon, as its unlikely to happen when sitting behind a keyboard all day looking for examples of police misconduct on a forum like this

I'm fully aware of the details, I just don't understand the hysterical fixation on his previous employment. He was a known user of Ya-bah, he was caught and (eventually ) dismissed in June and from the date of his sacking he ceased to be a police officer. Its not really important were he sourced his ya-bah from, it is readily available for anybody who wants it

got to agree with you, My personal thoughts are that it was a combination of many factors, a "perfect storm" as they like to say, Easy access to a gun,? of course. Some sort of mental issues,? definitely The concept of face ? without doubt. but for sure heavy use of Ya -bah will not have helped matters

I am confused by why so many people are obsessing about his former job, ok so as a police man he may have received some firearm training but I doubt he was taught how to use a knife and the relevance regarding what he did stops there. Anybody could learn how to use a gun in less than an hour. The only other relevance of his previous employment might be the response of the police in investigating what happened but I doubt that is valid considering the scrutiny this case will be under

I think it is irrelevant what his previous occupation was, he could just as well have been an ex bank manager. He was sacked due to his drug misuse, as are many people, not many companies / organisations follow up a drug related sacking with a comprehensive drug rehabilitation program do they ? Perhaps they should , in a perfect world eh ?

Mental problems could absolutely cause somebody act in such a manner, there is no other explanation, are you suggesting he was a regular run of the mill guy ?

Of course the guy was a complete nut job no need to let political correctness stand in the way of describing him as such, any body committing an act of this nature obviously is mentally disturbed. His alleged use of methamphetamine may or may not have been a factor, who knows?

A second drug test

And events of this nature are commonplace over there

All this talk of psychological examinations I wouldn't trust a word those shrinks say. As a shining example many dangerous people have been released early from prison in the UK following such appraisals only to offend again. Sometimes almost immediately

I cannot accept that it would take 6 weeks ( is that as a result of a queuing system ?) nor that the presence of methamphetamine could be accurately detected by a breath test as he suggested Surely the result of a blood test would be almost instantaneous

I'm not convinced that arming more people is the way forward, The uk for example has always resisted arming the police ( other than specialised officers) and as a result the amount of gun crime is relatively small, Compare that to America were all cops and many others are armed it has not reduced these kind of incidents Military trained Teachers with guns ? I don't think that would be a very good Idea .Most normal people would be unable to kill another

It would be a "start", however the next perpetrator is not necessarily going to be ex-army or ex police, I don't know what the answer is or even if there is an answer. Many people are motivated by money here "money number one" as they say, perhaps some sort of financial incentive could persuade people to hand in their guns or report those who won't, possibly funded by the lottery ? It won't be 100% effective but many would jump at the chance to get their hands on say 5000 baht. It would be another step in the right direction would it not?

Is working as a prostitute actually on the list of reserved occupations alongside hairdressers and tour guides etc ? If not then there is really no excuse for not obtaining a work permit beforehand

Estimates are just that. whether by self appointed "experts" or anybody else. There are many guns here but nothing like this has happened before, Perhaps a more pertinent question is how many nutters are out there that have the potential to commit similar atrocities? Perhaps the "experts" could shed some light on that? Thought not Its not the guns that kill people its the person pulling the trigger and it only took one gun (and one nutter) to cause the devastation that occurred Always amazes me how many experts appear after the event, any event, for that matter Will it happen again? unfortunately due to the high profile media coverage, I fear that possibility has now increased. Many nutters seek notoriety, and are prepared to die to achieve it, its not only islamists

If they were registered guns they would not need a swedish "survey" to "guess" how many , they would just n look in the register and count them. Nobody has a clue how many illegal guns are circulating, or perhaps more importantly, how many of them are in the hands of nutters like that guy

Plenty of guns in Thailand, not so sure how a Swedish institute has any Idea how many there are , Guesswork in my opinion.

How would any research project, establish the number of guns , was it a telephone survey? or online survey ? or were they over here knocking in doors and asking people? Or maybe yet another "fine" example of "mathematical modelling " " the graduate institute of international and development studies in geneva" ??? sounds very impressive but how could they possibly know Why was the "survey" not conducted in partnership with the authorities here, that way as the guns were found they could have been confiscated . Usual academic rubbish producing worthless figures in my opinion