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You should know by now that the number of cases simply depends on how much you test. So first they get blamed for not testing enough, and when they test more, and obviously find more, then blame them for finding more cases?

So you suggest to reduce testing again to keep the numbers low?

Now before you start bashing Cambodia for not allowing to criticize the government, the so very democratic Germany is doing worse, locking up even lawyers:

 

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Coronavirus lockdown: German lawyer detained for opposition

 

A large number of well-established doctors and lawyers in the German-speaking countries have questioned the constitutionality of their governments' stringent confinement measures, which are commonly being referred to by the English loan-word der Shutdown (as there is no precedent for what to call the situation in German). These measures have begun to be challenged openly on the streets of Berlin. The medical and legal dissidents number in the dozens. None, however, has paid such a price for that freedom of speech as the German medical lawyer Beate Bahner, who has been committed to a psychiatric institution for publicly disagreeing with the measures and policies followed by the German government.

Source: https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/coronavirus-lockdown-german-lawyer-detained-opposition

19 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You might think allowing a fugitive from the law to so very publicly flaunt the law is a good idea. The authorities don’t see it that way. I agree with them.

The ongoing extradition to the USA has nothing to do with that, nothing at all, but is for publishing news as a journalist. And a journalist should not be charged for publishing news.

It doesn't matter what the Swedish charges are, that's an independent issue. It doesn't matter if we like Julian Assange or not (I don't). What matters is that a journalist should not be charged for publishing news.
 

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If we allow Julian Assange (multi-awarded journalist) who is not a USA citizen and who was not in the USA when he published news to be extradited to the USA to face 175 years imprisonment and possible execution, then we no longer live in a democratic society. To allow Julian Assange to be extradited for his publishing in the public interest would place every woman, child and man in western society under USA extraterritorial authoritarian rule. History proves that this always leads to the next brutal dictatorship which will assassinate, execute or permanently silence any person that publishes evidence that exposes the “authorities” criminality.  

 
https://www.change.org/p/free-julian-assange-before-it-s-too-late-stop-usa-extradition

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

should not be covered

not be covered for what? This was about smoking getting banned to avoid many lung cancer cases, not about some covers.

56 minutes ago, chessman said:

If cases of lung cancer started to double every few days then smoking would be banned very quickly.

So you are saying that the current volume of lung cancer is acceptable, the tax income cigarettes generate is worth it? I hope that's not what you mean!

So what? Coronaviruses exist for a very long time and are studied and examined by many researchers for a long time. Just look and you will find and find and find. Almost all of them are harmless for us, fortunately.

14 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

as they throw the young into take the full brunt of it

As you might have read it is the old which are at risk, not the young.

There had been many proposals by virologists to open the schools, and to isolate and protect the elderly, the ones at risk. I would not have expected it from this guy, but nevertheless, good that somebody finally listens.

Good!

Another target to discredit for the 50 cent army.

12 minutes ago, The Deerhunter said:

And the Swedish charges were for some odd-sounding semi rape/ lack of consent charge. I think that the plan was if he got back to Sweden the Americans were going to try and extradite him from there.

Yeah, that was the problem, and he was right to be scared of that.

On 4/14/2020 at 11:53 AM, AussieBob18 said:

More people are dieing of lung cancer every day (20+) than are dieing from Covid19 a day (2-3) - and yet buying cigarettes and smoking is still legal and has not been shut down.  It is all not rational.

May be due to the tax income from selling cigarettes. More tax seems to be more important than avoiding lung cancer, at least as long as nobody complains about it.

6 hours ago, ThreeEyedRaven said:

We should all be praying that the trial run is a similar disaster to the laughable effort last week and they give up the stupid idea for good.

Better than praying would be to join the queues, you surely have urgent business to do there. ???? 

On 4/13/2020 at 6:54 PM, snoop1130 said:

Other experts said faulty tests may be playing a role, or remnants of the virus may still be in patients’ systems but not be infectious or of danger to the host or others.

 

These tests are not 100% reliable, so that is is quite plausible.

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Thailand currently has 10,184 ventilator units nationwide but only 2,855 are available.

Looking at New York, with 80% of Covid patients not surviving the ventilators there, I would prefer not to be sedated and put on such a machine. Most probably I would insist in just getting some oxygen. 

You might want to read more about this first before rejecting it:

https://hub.jhu.edu/2020/03/13/covid-19-antibody-sera-arturo-casadevall/
 

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The technique uses antibodies from the blood plasma or serum of people who have recovered from COVID-19 infection to boost the immunity of newly infected patients and those at risk of contracting the disease. These antibodies contained in the blood's serum have the ability to bind to and neutralize SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.

 

Casadevall—a Bloomberg Distinguished Professor of molecular microbiology and immunology and infectious diseases at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and School of Medicine—published a paper on the proposal today in The Journal of Clinical Investigation.

 

"Deployment of this option requires no research or development," he says. "It could be deployed within a couple of weeks since it relies on standard blood-banking practices."

So this could indeed help.

Bats -> Pangolins -> humans.

 

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A group of researchers believes the deadly coronavirus that originated in Wuhan, China, may have  passed from bats to humans through an intermediary animal, the pangolin.

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So far, they know the virus is zoonotic, meaning it jumps from animals to people. And genetic research has all but confirmed that it originated in bats. But scientists believe that another animal most likely served as the intermediary between bats and humans.

 

That animal could be the pangolin, a scaly, nocturnal mammal with a tongue longer than its body.

 

A group of researchers from South China Agricultural University found that samples from coronavirus patients were 99% identical to samples of the virus taken from wild pangolins, according to China’s official Xinhua news agency. Their research hasn’t been published or confirmed by other experts, but scientists say the results make sense, given what we know about the animals.

 

Pangolins are often poached for their keratin scales, which are used as ingredients in traditional Chinese medicine. Their meat is also considered a delicacy in China and Vietnam.

Many sources, here just one of them: https://www.businessinsider.sg/what-is-a-pangolin-animal-spread-coronavirus-to-humans-2020-2

So yes, origin is bats, but no need to eat bats, but to eat or be in contact with infected pangolins.

On 4/11/2020 at 1:18 PM, tropo said:

undo any good the lockdowns throughout Thailand have done.

Undoing the loss of jobs and desperately needed income for so many would be good in my humble opionion.

7 hours ago, Thailand said:

https://deathmeters.info/

Thanks, it is important to understand that there are more diseases around than this virus, diseases which are killing more people than this virus, and that every single day.

I wish there would be only half the effort put into fighting tuberculosis, malaria, influenza than into fighting this virus.

I'm sorry for every single one having to die, but that includes the huge number of unnecessary deaths from diseases other than Covid-19.

21 hours ago, Badrabbit said:

and driving without a mask on

What a nonsense, why would I need a mask when sitting in my car, alone or with the ones living with me? Even on my motorbike, with my helmet on, for what shall a mask protect me or others there?

Oh you're one of the ones even sleeping with the mask on, I understand. 

 

12 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Are the authorities trying to specifically ban beach fun

Apparently. Otherwise it would have been a request for social distancing at the beach, not a ban.