Yinn

16 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Is it possible that you are just slightly obsessed with me and my posts?

 

Your post where here you talk about have 16 year old “girlfriend” was when I join thaivisa. So I remember. I shocked. Yes. You right.

 

Not obseesed with you or your post. But shocking that guy come on the forum in Thailand and talk about do that.

And nobody mind. 

 

 

16 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And what gives you the idea that the picture near my posts is from me or from me now.

Maybe I am already 90 and think about the time when I was young. Or maybe I am younger.

Maybe.

 

16 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Just take the picture and search on the internet. Maybe you will find who the person in the picture is. I give you a hint: He does not live in Thailand.

I think after reading some of your post you just think how great it would have been if someone had loved you when you were 16.

Some drunk foreign sex tourist love me when I 16? You still don’t understand. 

16 year old don’t want to have sex with Grandpa Farang. 

She work in the sex bar. Because desperation. Go with you because no choice. But you don’t care. You enjoy anyway.

 

16 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Are you now 50 and still a virgin hoping for the knight in shining armor?

I wish you good luck for the rest of your life. Maybe start to get a life. ???? 

What you do is not legal. Same as this guy rape the 16 year old boy. Why you different?

 

Your first post this thread you not admit you do the same thing as this guy now in the jail.

You try to say “what the problem?” But not say because you like that same.

So I post you older comment.

Other poster say “oh,oh busted” 

 

I show you the law, is called “statutory rape” now you want to talk about me.

 

i not want to rape the kid.

16 ok for you. 14 ok for you? 

What age you think to young for you.

 

it not surprise me you think like that. People who want the kid always think it no problem.

 

 

8 hours ago, Traubert said:

Three pages and no-one has yet spotted that the violated was a  boy.

 

'He told him that HE was 18......'

 

Not that it makes much difference, a perv is a perv. Put him in front of a judge.

Yes, you correct.

Live and let live.

On 7/23/2019 at 6:47 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

On 7/23/2019 at 11:13 PM, Yinn said:

 

 

 

My gf was 16 when I met her. I was her first boyfriend ever.

And I didn't have a bad conscience because she told me she was 18.

 

Should they be protected? Yes

 

On 7/24/2019 at 10:48 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

I also think it's a good law and I think people who mess around with kids should go to jail.

 

On 7/24/2019 at 10:48 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

 

 

But how about teenagers, i.e. 17 year old girls. How many of them have sex? It seems many, probably the majority of them.

 

But not with sex tourist who “pay” for them in the bar. Very different.

On 7/24/2019 at 10:48 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

 I don't see the problem as long as they both want it.

 

 

On 7/24/2019 at 10:48 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

And in my personal experience with my at that time 16 year old gf: She worked in a bar

 

 

 

On 7/24/2019 at 10:48 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

 

Or should I have informed the police and maybe they would have brought her into a orphanage? Does that sound like a good idea?

So you “adoption” her? No, have sex with her.

 

On 7/24/2019 at 10:48 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

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Would teenagers work in bars in a perfect world? No. But our world is not perfect and sometimes the bar is the better alternative.

Bar is better alternative for 16 year sell body to foreign sex tourist than what? 

 

 

On 7/24/2019 at 10:48 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

I know a girl who worked with 15 as a bartender and as far as I know she didn't go with any customers. The alternative for her was to stay with her mother and her stepfather who was a little too interested in her. I know the parents. I think she was a lot better off in the bar without her stepfather. Sometime there are no good alternatives. 

Or get another job? Like normal people do. You crazy if you think that is good.

 

On 7/24/2019 at 10:48 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

 

And coming back to the case with started this thread: It seems the guy had sex with a 16 year old girl and it seems he didn't force her to have sex. It seems the parents complained and not the girl. And we don't know why the parents complained. Did they love their daughter and wanted to protect her? Or did they hope to get a big payment from the guy or maybe "support" from the NGO? It seems money if often the motivation and not protecting the children... 

Yeah, great guy. In the jail. Good.

 

 

your story start that you think it bad. Say 16 year old should be protection.

you say you didn’t feel bad because you “didn’t know” she was 16.

 

but now you say it ok, a good alternative. Should be ok.

 

so what you really believe? Is ok? Should have protection? Or not? 

I also don’t believe you not know for two years. Unbelievable.

you also say you “ask her parents”. They “ok”. So you know she to young right?

 

Your photo you look about 55 year old up? Correct?

You think normal for old man to “love” the kid year 3 of high school? Or not?

 

7 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And all these people are allowed to vote...

 

When you met your 16 years old girlfriend, did she vote?

7 hours ago, Lucius verus said:

 Pattaya which is one of the filthiest  places in Thailand ?

Yes pattaya is famous for dirty. Dirty beach, rubbish, water.

And famous for many for being farang city.

 

if all the farang same this guy, I think it would be clean place.

 

3 hours ago, justin case said:

thainess in action, causing a person to die and run away

 

but hey, don't you dare hit a dog that bite you or your family, you will end up in jail 

Who causing him to die?

 

The thai driving on the ROAD.

or the drunk American walking on the ROAD in the dark with no lights walk in the front of a motorbike?

The Thai news report more detail.

 

He been using government helicopter. Free. 

But not in the government.

6 hours ago, bowerboy said:

...utterly pathetic nation of people...

Where you from?

 

On 7/23/2019 at 7:51 PM, BritManToo said:

 I'm not sure what's happening here.

This 

 

On 7/23/2019 at 8:54 AM, geovalin said:

purchasing child prostitution, child pornography and rape

 

8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

As an American overseas, one has to be very, very careful in this regard. The US is the most overzealous government in the world, when it comes to the prosecution of statutory crimes against its citizens. It goes back to the prudishness, and fake puritanism, prevalent within US culture. America is a very confused and disturbed nation, when it comes to sex. I am not advocating for underage sex. Quite the opposite. I despise that practice. Women 18 years and older are plenty hot for any man, unless he is mentally bent. Preying on children is horrific. I am railing against an overly intrusive government, and it's vast over reach. Thailand cooperates with this, on every level. Except in the initial stages, where it may be possible to buy your way out, if she is 17. 16 and under. Little chance. 

 

I am informed by friends in law enforcement, that if an American is caught with a woman anywhere in the world (regardless of local laws), with a woman 16 or under, they will dispatch an official, who will fly to Bangkok, pick him up, escort him back to Washington in handcuffs, where he will face statutory rape charges. Very little evidence is required for a prosecution. An audio tape of the girl involved, and a copy of her ID is enough, for a prosecution. The US government will throw up to $10,000,000 at the case, to get a conviction. So, unless you have $5 million to spend on attorneys, you will serve 10 years in a federal prison, then you will be on the sex offender list for the rest of your life. And from what I hear, spending time in a federal prison on statutory rape charges is not a good way to make friends there. 

Increasingly, the Thai government—with the assistance of the FBI and other partners—has taken significant steps to address the sexual exploitation of children and to focus more attention on victims, whose interests in the past have sometimes been overlooked. 

 

Davies explained that trafficking is a “huge problem in Thailand, as it is in many countries.” But the Thai government has shown a “new eagerness” to address the problem and to seek help from the United States, the ambassador said. “That is terrific, because we’ve got the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, and the State Department’s expertise and resources that we can bring to bear.”

 

 

“We see a large number of travelers from the U.S. and other countries coming here to commit acts against children,” said Special Agent John Schachnovsky, head of the FBI’s legal attaché office in Bangkok. “To travel from the U.S. to any foreign country and engage in sex with a minor is against the law.”

 

“Trafficking is a serious crime,” he said. “It is a crime against human dignity, but when they do this to our children, it is even worse.” The general explained that there is a “clear national agenda” in Thailand to address these issues and to assist young people who are sexually exploited by Thai citizens as well as foreign visitors.

 

 

Child sex tourism describes the act of traveling to another country to engage in illegal sexual conduct with children. It’s a growing problem thanks to the ease of international travel and the free exchange of information online regarding how and where to find child victims overseas. Children from poor and developing countries are often seen as easy targets by American sexual predators.

 

43 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

So it seems you don't want that all laws are enforced. The Thai law makes prostitution illegal, with 16, 20, 30, 40, any age.

Not really, like I earlier said...

The age of consent in Thailand is 15 regardless of gender or sexual orientation, as specified by article 279 of the Thai Criminal Code. The current legislation applies to all regardless of gender or sexual orientation.

However, parts of the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, which disallow any sexual contact with prostitutes under the age of 18, are widely interpreted by some local authorities to cover sexual acts classed as "obscenity for personal gratification". Also, from the Penal Code Amendment Actof 1997 Section 283bis, having sex with an adolescent under 18 is a compoundable offense even with the consent of that person. The parent or the adolescent may file charges against the other side if they later regret their own action. This ostensibly makes the Thai unfettered age of consent 18.

A high-profile example of this application of the law was a statutory rape charge filed against the lead singer of the Thai band Big Ass for allegedly having had sex with a (then) 16-year-old girl.

 

So a 16 year old “bargirl” is not ok. Sure.

 

43 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Personally you think 20 is ok but 16 is not ok. So is 18 ok or a little ok or what?

No, 18 is too young to be a sex worker. Brain not develop enough to make decision. Under 18 easy for someone to bully.

That my opinion. And the law. 

You disagree.

 

 

43 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I think in reality some teenagers are active earlier and some later. Many 16 year old girls are not innocent kids anymore.

You said your 16 year old never had a boyfriend before. Or not?

The second most famous Yinglee song....think everyone know it.

 

 

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

So you write in a Thai forum about illegal prostitution and you don't even know that prostitution is illegal in Thailand?

Maybe it would help if you inform yourself a little.

 

From Wikipedia: Prostitution in Thailand

"Prostitution has been common in Thailand for centuries. During the Ayutthaya Kingdom (1351–1767), prostitution was legal and taxed,[1]:2 and the state ran brothels.[2] Since 1960, prostitution in Thailand has been de jure illegal"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Thailand

 

And maybe also have a look at this:

Ages of consent in Asia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Asia

Cambodia: 15 

Thailand: 15, protections apply until 18 

 

I think nobody care about 20 year old and up. See it in Patong. Because adult already.

But 16 can not. Same reason 16 year old can not go to pub and drink alcohol. Because still the kid.

 

Not just me who think that. The police do also.

big difference prostitution and child prostitution.

31 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And in Thailand any prostitution is illegal. 

Not really. 

But not with children. 

I not sure but think age 20 up is not illegal.

 

21 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

 

But how about teenagers, i.e. 17 year old girls. How many of them have sex? It seems many, probably the majority of them. And most of the time they have sex with boys of a similar age or maybe a little older. So do you think it should be a crime if a 22 year old boy has sex with a 17 year old girl? I don't think so! And how about if the guy is 30? Or 40? I don't see the problem as long as they both want it.

Yes, age consent is 16. When they make the law they know 16 old girls some like sex. 

No problem up to 20 because about the same age. 20-30 not sure, maybe some ok if she really love and have good brain. Up to the situation. 

 

But you believe this 16 year old “want it” with 56 year old Grandpa Farang? Of course not.

 

Big different. 

2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And what's your point?

 

 

I guess next some saviors will run around in Thailand telling people prostitution is illegal and everybody involved should go to jail.

Second point. Prostitution with kids is illegal. I think good law. Do you?

8 hours ago, sambum said:

Let me guess the origin of the figures - TAT?

Wrong.

Bloomberg.

1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:

And what's your point?

In my case that was a long time ago. At that time 16 year old girls were working in many bars in Thailand. And nobody cared.

 

I don't know how the situation is in Cambodia. Are they very strict with enforcing their laws?

 

Sometimes it seems some NGOs and other groups do everything so it appears they do something. Find the real pedophiles who abuse small children and make sure they are prosecuted. And don't worry too much if some teenagers have sex. They always had sex and will always have sex. That's what teenagers do.

 

I guess next some saviors will run around in Thailand telling people prostitution is illegal and everybody involved should go to jail.

First point.

Your first post, you defend the guy, or yourself?

13 hours ago, AhFarangJa said:

We have had the bar since April 2016. Up until last October monthly takings were averaging 150k to 180k. Now it is 50k to 60k per month. Just enough to pay staff, rent, electric. Not a lot else. 

 

Most tourist are Chinese. Millions. 

Today I go to my friend elephant village. 

21 buses of Chinese. Pay minimum 400 baht, maximum 2,800 baht.

I did not see any farang, but my friend said some German come this morning, not many. One van.

You want to make profit, you must get the China customer. But if a farang “beer bar” with sex worker, the Chinese not interested that one.

 

good luck!

8 hours ago, Geoffggi said:

Do what ever you want with him if proven guilty, no-one will complain.

 

4 hours ago, Pique Dard said:

"Action pour les enfants" is an ong doing a great job in cambodia by making life tough for pedophiles. i've seen a coverage  about their work.

 

3 hours ago, rosst said:

I am not denying that some 16 year olds are physically ready for sexual experience but are not mentally ready. 

We are unable to determine who can and who can't so we have the law which mandates at what age the person can legally make a decision on whether they wish to have a sexual experience. 

I think your post indicates you believe otherwise? 

He is guilty of rape of a minor, lock him up in a Cambodian prison and feed him rice and fish heads till he dies. 

 

4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

16? Is that the priority now?

Lots of 16 year old teenagers have sex, and their bodies are ready for sex.

Should they be protected? Yes! Should they be first priority? I don't think so.

I think pedophiles who abuse young children, sometime younger than 10 years old, should be the highest priority. 10 year old children definitely don't have sex in mind and they definitely don't agree to be abused.

I guess there are still enough pedophiles out there who abuse young children. They should be top priority!

 

3 hours ago, emptypockets said:

Don't let facts get in the way of his oh so predictable rant.

Here another one.. 

other country should learn from us. 

 

3 hours ago, Thaidream said:

I. for one, am listening to him because he points out things that are real and are a problem.   Sometimes, the truth hurts.  It doesn't mean we do not like Thailand or Thai people.

 

The charts you presented are fine but they do not represent the fact that  Westerners are in short supply in Thailand and the reasons they are not coming have been spoken about in the forum.

 

There is no doubt that many tourists are giving Thailand a pass and going to other countries and even the Chinese are not coming in prior numbers.

 

There is a reason for all this and those who depend on tourists should listen to the reasons why people are not coming.  A smart business person listens to his/her customers or potential customers and never dismisses their complaints.

 

There are many people on this forum that have a love for Thailand and its culture and want the country to succeed.  

 

As I said , sometimes the real truth can hurt but it is not always meant fo be destructive but a positive force for making the right changes.

But people are coming. It not the truth he say.

That the point. That the chart I post.

i was at my friend elephant village today. 21 bus full of chinese tourist.

Here another one. 

Better to look at truth, don’t listen to him, he don’t know.

 

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The "scary" reality for Thailand, is that the neighbors are making a real effort, improving, progressing, and creating a better environment for tourism. While here in Thailand, the environment is one of stagnation, regression, a total lack of vision, xenophobia, fear of foreigners, confused and muddled visa policy, and a baht that is far stronger than it needs to be, should be, or deserves to be. 

 

No effort is being made to address tourist safety, or public safety in general. No effort is being made to address traffic safety and the horrendous amount of bus, mini-van, car, truck, and motorbike accidents on the road. No effort is being made to improve the highway patrol, or even get those incompetent clowns to patrol the highways, and pull people over for reckless driving. No effort is being made to address the understaffed immigration counters at DM, or Swampy. No effort is being made to tackle corruption on the part of the RTP franchisees. Quite the opposite. They are being deliberately protected. No effort is being made to address the myriad of environmental issues Thailand faces, whether it be the water quality, the air quality, the burning by farmers, the plastic epidemic, the extreme lack of trash cans throughout the nation, and a vast host of other issues. And finally, no effort is being made to reform the tourism ministry, separate it from the sports ministry (hair brained to the extreme), or improve the TAT. Nothing. 

 

The army is doing nothing, to benefit the people, or tourists. Absolutely nothing. Perhaps even less than zero. Perhaps the name should be changed from the Thai Army to the Nothing men. Of course tourism is dropping. Why would it not be dropping? 

Another long lecture for thai people. Thankyou so much. 

Big effort again. But who listen to you?

 

With all the problem you say, look at the score.

Funny when farang think they know everything about tourism. But wrong.