Matzzon

1 hour ago, transam said:

At Sav they take about 2 mins to skate through my paperwork, always the same because it's perfect presentation...

Right, that´s what it takes for me too, the few times I´ve been there. Just take long time with all the people they have to explain whats missing for. if you come prepared, there is never a problem anywhere.

1 hour ago, NicoBKK said:

I have never been to any visa run but may be there are many officers doing the job in parallel hence could still be 15 min/person - if there are 10 officers = 10 hrs

Exactly! You have never been to a visa run. There is only one open window, were you leave the application. Only one que and one person receiving them. There, now your fantasy totally went out the window.

14 hours ago, Lincoln88 said:

I applied for a Thai visa from the consulate in Savanakkhet today.It was so crowded maybe more than 400 people.And embassy officers were getting applications very slowly,15-20 min for a person.I was lucky to arrive the embassy early in the morning at 7.00 am,however it still got so long and I am still extremely tired.Even I thought to go back home leaving embassy because of extreme hot and very slow process,I was likely to vomit... Very bad experience...

As already stated it was the wrong choice of day to go, and I´ve been true that too. However, this forum is very good, and that is based on that most of the information in the visa section is correct. I can not for my life understand why you choose to say its minimum 400 people there and that it took 15-20 min per person. That is not possible. That would mean 100 hours to process in one day.

13 hours ago, glegolo said:

Maybe a stupid question, but fridays???? Is the consulate closed that day you mean???

 

glegolo

No, it´s not closed fridays. It only means that you will have to wait until monday to get your passport and visa back. Not an effective choice, and that´s why nobody want to recommend or talk about it. If you not mind a longer trip/holliday, then it will be a good day too.

Your best option is to make a letter the same day you are going to apply for your extension. Also do not forget to update your passbook at the same time/day.

By that you will guarantee that you have valid documents regarding all Immigration Offices in Thailand.

You can apply 1-30 days before the end of your last permission to stay in the Kingdom. You will then recieve an under consideration stamp for 30 days, which will allow you to remain in the country during the process time for granting your extension.

6 hours ago, johnny1966 said:

I will be going to Savannakhet apply for a multi entry o marriage. A friend will be joining me to apply for a tv. Does the 20k need to be shown in cash at the consulate or in a bank book? (he has a Thai bank account). How about balance dates for the money? If the application is made on the 30th June will a bank balance printed in the bank book dated 14th June 2019 be ok or does the date need to be closer to the 30th?

As of now you will not need to show any funds at the consulate when applying for a Non-O ME based on marriage in Savannakhet.

As for the 20K baht or same amount in another currency you are mentioning, is what they have the right to ask for at the border checkpoint. However, even if it regards all visas, there are mostly check and questions to show money for tourist visas at airports. Are you going be land border, it will be extremely small chance they will ask for any show of money on a Non-O visa. Better safe than sorry. Have it at hand if needed. It´s just 20K baht.

1 minute ago, pizzachang said:

So I must have US dollars to do the Savannakhet visa run? How about for hotels & eats?

Please quote from the original poster next time. This was not a text from my post. However, you do not need US dollars, and can pay with Thai baht. If you choose to use Thai baht they will charge you 1500 baht, so it´s more favorable for you to use US dollars

2 hours ago, Seanbhoy said:

Hi,

Flying to KL on Wednesday 26th in the morning and coming back in the evening to Bangkok.

I cannot do land crossings, should be ok or not?

What is it you want? Is it to have an entry that ends in 1 day, or do you want a new 30 day visa exempt entry and extend that one after 30 days?

2 hours ago, fishtank said:

You can get a Non Imm O Visa from Savanakhet Laos.

Presuming your Wife is Thai.

A Multi entry will get you around 15 months,

A Multiple Entry will give almost up to 17 month together with a 60 day extension.

4 hours ago, craftyone said:

Oh yeah.....it’s still 1000 baht for TV and $30 USD for Laos VOA.

I bet you thought it was free!!!

Why would anybody that keeps up with the changes think that?

8 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

So you are both working on a tourist visa?

No, they are not. Read the article again.

1 hour ago, Tanoshi said:

Possibly and probably, as the TM30 online goes to the 'central' system, not your local office.

Only if they logged into the main system would they see a previously filed TM30.

Regardless I file when I arrive 'home', just to be on the safe side.

That´s very wise to do, and it´s not much work either. Nothing at all to complain about, really.

3 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

If the hotel filed a TM30 as they should, then you need to file a TM30 on return to your permanent place of abode, otherwise your place of stay remains unchanged.

Most office snow only request the TM30 when you change permanent residency, the TM28's are discarded in many instances.

 

The report that is done by a hotel is only to be regarded as temporary notification of address, and will not override your own TM 30.

3 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

It only mentions arrival at the residence which is what the immigration act states.

Ok, when you leave and come back after 1-3 month. To come back to something you must arrive again, right?
I am just stating to possible.

3 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

What is badly needed is for the Immigration Bureau to write a official order to clarify what the requirements are instead of every office setting their own requirements.

That I guess we all can agree on.

46 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

That is only your opinion and some immigration offices and officers. Others state it is only needed if you change addresses which in my opinion is correct.

The only reason temporary permission to stay is mentioned in the section 38 is because it only applies to those with one it does not mean anything more than that.

Section 38 only states the report is needed when arriving at the residence. If you never move from the residence another report should not be needed.

You only mentioned leaving and reentering the country. What about the other offices that are wrongly stating a new one is needed if you stay at a hotel and such.

This is copied from the Immigration Division 1 website.

According to section 38 of the 1979 immigration act, "House owners, heads of household, landlords or managers of hotels who accommodate foreign nationals on a temporary basis who stay in the kingdom legally, must notify the local immigration authorities within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the foreign national." If there is no immigration office in the province or locality of the respective house or hotel, the notification is made to the local police station. In Bangkok the notification is made to the Immigration Bureau. The notification of residence of foreign nationals is made by the manager of licensed hotels according to the hotel act, owners of guesthouses, mansions, apartments and rented houses using the form TM. 30. 
The notification of residence of foreign nationals within 24 hours can be made in a number of ways to make the notification as convenient as possible:

There is nowhere in this information it stands that it regards the first arrival at an address. I clearly states "within 24 hours after arrival of the foreign national", which most probably mean every single arrival after leaving the country, instead of one specific. In that case the text, to me, would have stated the first arrival at a new address. It does not state that.

7 minutes ago, transam said:

I have lived at the same address for 12 years, I have a yellow book, but Mrs.Trans got fined 800bht for not reporting I was out of the country ONE night....

Exactly. Better to be on the safe side. It´s really no money to talk about even if it would happen 1 time a year, but the easy thing is to have a good and regular contact with your Immigration Office.

2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

What written rules do you think state that. The immigration act does not say that.

It is only a local policy at some offices.

Okey, so the written rule only regards when entering Thailand at an address the first time, if you then come back to the same address 1 year later there is no need for a new report. So, if you choose to reside in Korat for 6 month with a friend, then there is no need too? I guess Immigration sees you beeing away for more than 24 hours, or in this case more relevant 21 days. During a period like that, it probably doesn´t matter inside or outside the country. 

However, opinions might differ. I believe it´s better to be on the safe side. By the way, why the guy don´t ask an officer at his Immigration office, is unfathomable. That would like be the most easy way to comply with some upside down rules set by the specific office.

You should have gone to the office within 24 hours according to the written rules. Somebody will come along and tell you how Sri Racha Immigration Office handle the TM30 situation and if there is any fines included.

I believe the information on the WDC website might be out of date, but I can be wrong. 

30 minutes ago, Toany said:

The hotel will not give you a TM30 receipt, as they do it on-line and there is no receipt.

If you stay with a friend, they might not file a TM30 and save you the trouble of filing one when you get home.

In Thailand goal posts have wheels
 

1. If you stay at hotels and they report you, or you see to that they report you online. Then Immigration will have that in their database. That´s why the receipt was important.

2. That was exactly why I stated that you must tell your friend, and see to that they do it.

3. Yeah! In Romania cars have four wheels.

1 hour ago, parryhandy said:

If you stay at a hotel or someone's house and THEY don't report you for whatever reason do you understand that until the fine is paid you ain't getting your extension ?

You did realize that I wrote:
 

2 hours ago, Matzzon said:

You are the one that must have control over that your TM 30 has been done.

Right?

A hotel must register you. Keep the rwciept and show Immigration, and you are not responsible for the fine. If you stay at someones house, you are responsible to tell them and see to that they do a registration.

2 hours ago, lamyai3 said:

The first most people hear about these "rules" is when they're hit by fines for something their landlord hasn't done. Maybe they should double the fines for anyone happily excusing such blatant racketeering. 

You just can´t say that you get fines for something your landloard should have been doing. You are the one that must have control over that your TM 30 has been done. If the landlord will not do it, you are the one that must do it. That´s why the option for possessor is on the form.

58 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

There are 3 other problems.

Too many immigration officers do not know the rules.

Too many immigration officers complain about foreigners, you have to remember to even 'wai' them sufficiently respectfully, or be chucked out in 7 days.

Rules are enforced and ignored with such randomness no foreigner can even know what is required. (To ask someone to get to an office they have no idea of the location of, and queue for many hours, to perform a function they should not be responsible for, after traveling half way around the world, within 24 hours, is beyond reason.)

 

I could add more.

 

Ok, noted. Actually I knew there was much more on the list of complaint. Just want to take my hat of, for all of you out there that choose to stay and get extensions in a country you fell don´t want or respect you. You´ve have chosen the hard way to deal with all the complaints during your retirement or married life. I am just baffled over how you really want to put yourself through all this pain and suffering.

11 hours ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

but you could tell that the whole thing was set up to collect 800 Baht bounty. Today they collected at least half a million baht in fines.

Ok, that will mean there was over 624 foreigners (non citizens), that were fined 800 bath for breaking the Immigration Law. In one day? Both you and me as well as the majority of all other reading this forum, knows that is not true. Exactly same over exaggerated information as trying to say it exists a problem, or that there must be a warning.

The only 3 problems that exists is:

Too many foreigners refuse to go by the rules
Too many foreigners complain over everything possible to conplain about.
Apearently foreigners are not warned enough to comply with the law. Maybe they should raise the fines.