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5 hours ago, webfact said:

Manmade environmental catastrophes

Yeah, they are professionals at that. Just look at the garbage at the roadsides, and the faulty motoric functions when they shall trow something in a waste bin.

Don´t tell the kids, and then you do not have to lie to them either. Some people just create trouble for themselfs. And then if the kids would have been telling things to others, then little Bell would be standing there with the big bill.

2 hours ago, mal2018 said:

Common sense is the same in any language. ????

Spot on! I was explaining to the retarded part of the population, My name is Legion for we are many, and appearently growing in numbers for every single day.

1 hour ago, Cat ji said:

What is not allowed?  A PayPal account linked to a Thai bank credit card?

Where is it already stated?

You are not allowed to have a US Paypal account and withdraw money to a Thai bank account. For withdraw money from Paypal to a Thai bank account you must have a Paypal account registered in Thailand. It´s their security rules that is kicking in.

When a wrote already stated, I meant same as another poster wrote before me.

However, If you want more clarity on why, then I suggest you contact Paypal support and get the same answer. They can probably answer you why too, because it their rules.

9 minutes ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said:

Well there ya go then! Answered your own question. Or are you saying you're an idiot!? ????????

 

By the way I don't disagree that there A LOT of stupid people out there ????

 

Of course, I am an idiot. That´s the easiest way to fit in and be as incognito as possible in todays wierd society. ????

If you try to prove yourself otherwise, then you stand out in the crowd.

17 minutes ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said:

So you have never found yourself addicted to anything? You have never had an unhealthy relationship with any kind of vice ever in your life? It's too easy and dismissive to simply state - it's all simply 'being dumb', it's a lot more nuanced than that. The reasons behind the behaviour are what count even more than the behaviour itself in many cases.

 

I notice you don't even try to rebutt my above arguments re: tech, either. ????

 

Ooh yes! I have an severe addiction today. I am addicted to Thai Visa, And I know for sure that I am dumb enough to sit read and post a lot of 5h1t there every single day. That´s todays strong poison. Hard to get free from too.. 

1 minute ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said:

Not at all, I mean this is just not even an argument to my mind.

 

'Do they not first have to be dumb enough to fall for and engage in excessive use of technology in the first place?'

 

You can make the same argument about any form of addiction my friend. Being unintelligent is not a prerequisite to becoming addicted to any manner of things - alcohol or drugs, sex, work - the list goes on. Many great and brilliant people have done and continue to.

That you can try on somebody else. They are all same dumb in my book. It´s very strange that so many comes out and state that it was very dumb choices in their lifes, after they got free from thier addiction. Whatever that one might have been.

4 minutes ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said:

People are becoming dumbed down in many instances because of excessive use of technology.

The above sentence is the ground foundation of all the text you wrote in your quote. I sincerely thank you for elaborating as much as you did, but unfortunately it also falls on the first sentence.

You are trying to state that people are becoming dumbed down because of exessive use of technology. That must then beg the question: Do they not first have to be dumb enough to fall for and engage in excessive use of technology in the first place?

4 minutes ago, zydeco said:

I can think of a dozen ways your 2 million baht in the bank could get vaporized. Security? This isn't a financial topic, but ask Venezuelans about security. The one and only thing that should be secure is the fixed requirement. If the 800K is there--and the bank doesn't fail--we should be credited with fulfilling our obligation. If something else comes along to make your daily funds relatively worthless, that is another matter. Buy gold. That is the only relative financial security available in Thailand. Ask the people who lived through 1997-1999.

Oh, 1997-1999. Then I was running 3 companies, so I guess asking will be overrated. 

As you and I are well aware of, is that it´s very hard to protect yourself against an international or even a national economic crasch. There are things to do, to be able to minmize the pain inflicted. However, I guess it all comes down to a choice. Are you willing to risk a little and place the money asked for in Thailand, or are you better off in another place that do not ask? In this case that must be a factor taken into the economical situation and possible losses vs gains.

2 minutes ago, rexall said:

I am  not so sure about that. One thing that Asian cultures hate and abhor is transparency, and whether it is ThaiVisa or some other medium, the internet may make doing business as usual increasingly more difficult for the bureaucracy. 

Or not.

Get your point. However, I would go more towards not. Other mediums like Facebook maybe might work better. Thai Visa, is like a more closed community to foreigners, which do not make it same powerful for others than us.

2 minutes ago, rexall said:

I ask again, why would that disturb you?

Clearly you cannot read and understand. What disturbs me is in my opinion that people are foolish enough to take such a big risk of moving without an enough big buffer.
 

3 minutes ago, rexall said:

Sorry, I just cannot embrace your brand of faux Stoicism and Horatio Algerism.

When using such fine language, one wuold think that you do not miss to understand my simple and bold language. 

Anyway, I let you take the rest with Mr. Ongo. 

2 minutes ago, rexall said:

Oh, that little thing.  Is that all it is?  I feel better already!

How good! I am happy for you. However, did you read the rest? What is needed to be done by all, for anything to ever change. Complaining on Thai Visa Forum just don´t cut it.

5 minutes ago, rexall said:

You are merely rephrasing Mr. Ongo's criticism of people who do not plan well, but you are  not addressing the question: What is it exactly that would disturb Mr. Ongo about it? Sure, it's no secret, many people plan inefficiently, and many would probably be better off not making risky moves as you suggest.  But why is that disturbing to Mr. Ongo?  Is he talking about one of his kids or his best friend or something? Is he expression compassion for those who do not possess the acumen to handle their finances as well as he does?  And if so,  you might think that a little of his compassion might extend to people getting blindsided even while they are attempting to do the right thing.  

I wrote: irresponsible, risky as 2 things that might be disturbing. I can also add the foolishness of a person chosing to move and reside in a country without that small amount of money. 

Ok, I know, for some not small. Buy, hey, nobody said that every single beeing is suitable and able to settle in another country just because their neighbour could.

Regarding compassion for then not can use the option monthly income in Khon Kaen, if it´s any truth in that, they have my full compassion. However, my stance about the need of a minimum of 800k baht also still stands. If it was up to me, the amount would be at a minimum of 2M baht. Don´t get me wrong. Not for be able to stay, but for be able to have a good security in your new life.

1 minute ago, Sheryl said:

 

Not by intention on the part of policy makers.  It is clear that both should still be possible. It is implementation insome provinces (not all by any means) that is flawed. And the overall ability of TI to introduce new rules and ensure they are understoof =d and followed, that is and long has been, very sub-optimal.

 

May not matter to those affected but I think it helps to understand that a lot of this is not in fact part of a systemic plan to push us out, as some people have come to feel.

Spot on! The only thing is, like you wrote, different offices are taking the liberty to do what they want. That´s why I´ve spoken earlier about that everything that is wrong should be reported. There is a hotline for these kind of things too. It´s just that people must use it, instead of constantly complaining and talk about to soon coming doomsday, where all the white and black foreigners in Thailand will be wiped out by the power of all the "so called new" Immigration Laws. 

13 minutes ago, zydeco said:

Ah, protection money.

How did you come to that wierd conclusion? Where was any protection needed?

7 minutes ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said:

Agreed. It's only going to get far worse with the advent of 5g and the exponential development of the IoT, unfortunately.

Yes, and the funny thing is that it has nothing to do with the new technology. In reality it´s just people getting more dumb.

23 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

I agree wholeheartedly with assisting a fellow foreigner and especially a friend but I can't see where you can determine it's "Probably something you would not understand."  Anyway, regardless of your misconception, maybe you are unfamiliar with the concept of 'when push comes to shove' in my earlier post so I will try and explain.

 

After all the good work and honest intentions of you and your friends over time to help the hypothetical friend who has mismanaged and continues to abuse his Thai immigration status, the hypothetical friend spurns all good advice, chooses to 'go dark', fly under the immigration radar and overstay.

 

With your earlier stated conviction that such abusers of the system imperils your good standing here in Thailand, would you call the 1178 'snitch-line'?

 

A simple Yes or No answer will suffice, unembellished by incorrect assumptions or further obfuscation.

Yes, I probably would. Was that clear enough for you? I thought I made my stance clear.

Great! One step in the right direction that will be more effective and quicker. Hopefully with a good result too.

2 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

 

Pen-pusher layoffs?

Nope. they still need to write it down too, as a safety copy. Imagine what the world would be without all the archieves full of healty trees.

2 hours ago, webfact said:

The raid was mounted by three separate agencies with policemen of the rank of major general present. 

Oh, that´s lucky! I am surprised they are not standing with their shining starts on a parade photo.

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

4 in the photo have tattoos, what's the legal age to have those?

When you grown enough old for your parents to not care no more.