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29 minutes ago, darrendsd said:

Go to a Education Department approved School - tell them you want to enroll on a course

 

You will need to sign some documents and supply some photos

 

They will then submit your application to the Education Department - after 3-5 weeks the paperwork will come back - you then get that paperwork and apply for ED Visa at a nearby Thai Embassy - Vientianne is a good choice unless things have changed in the last few months

 

Get your visa and come back into Thailand

 

It's really as simple as that

 

 

My question is: Why did you chose my quote when you just wnted to explain the procedure? When did I even mention that? Was the last beer good?

45 minutes ago, overherebc said:

You know exactly what my post means but I'm not going to post a direct answer on the reasons people use Ed visas to stay in Thailand.

Why not? I thought this part of the forum was dedicated to the truth and good advices, Ok, maybe i was wrong.

35 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Just my opinion. If you want to study Thai there will be no better place to do it.

If you want to study Italian then surely Italy would be the best place.

In both places you will be surrounded by native speakers.

I certainly wouldn't come to Thailand to study French or any other western language, what would be the point?

Where in Thailand learning let's say German, would you be exposed to the variations of accents, very different going from north to south Germany.

In Thailand 500,000 baht for total immersion in Thai for 5 years is a bargain. You would be speaking, reading and writing Thai like a native.

Yeah, sure! What was it after that? Did you wake up, or did you take a cold shower?

28 minutes ago, overherebc said:

Take the pressure off and buy the elite visa for 500,000 baht and you can study anything you want anywhere in Thailand for 5 years.

Yeah, that is probably what all people that wish to study want to do.

I actually thought that the visa section in this forum was for good advice, but I guess I have to reconsider.

33 minutes ago, elviajero said:

I know that a formal concession is in place and I have never heard of anyone being prosecuted for a 1 day overstay. Why would they.

 

I am not breaking any forum rules and I’m not condoning overstaying. I am advising based on an overstay if less than 24 hours and explained why the authorities do not enforce the law in those cases.

Have it your way. The way I explained is the right way, and it doesn´t matter what you excuse yourself with.

6 minutes ago, elviajero said:

No one is going to be arrested and sent through the court system if caught on the way to the airport on day 31.

 

I am 100% happy to advise anyone leaving on day 31 from BKK that they needn’t bother extending their stay as a formal concession is in place as authorised by the “bosses”.

You do not know that 100%.

Overstaying is breaking the law. You are advising people to break the law, as well as you also break the forum rules by condining and advising about an illegal activity. I wouldn´t be happy about that.

2 hours ago, elviajero said:

No. If leaving on day 31 from either Bangkok airport there is no point wasting time an money applying for an extension. 

 

Immigration, at BKK, do do not charge an overstay fee if the overstay is less than 24 hours.

It doesn´t matter if they charge or no charge. The thing is that it is an overstay. If you then compare overstaying 1 day, with an extension that not leads to an overstay. Then how ever you would like to turn things around to be right, the only real answer is that the extension is the best choice.

What you are suggesting is a little hole in the system, and a cheap way out still doing it the wrong way, hence your stamp in the passport. Do you really believe that Immigration department from bosses to the people on the floor likes that behaviour? Maybe that kind of way to treat the country as a guest, is one of the many reasons why things get harder all the time.

Summary of the exact thing you are suggesting and condoning with your comment is: Never mind, break the immigration law, out of the simple reason you do not have to pay for the first day when leaving.

My question is: Would you feel happy if a person you provided with an answer would get caught on the way to the airport or when exiting his hotel?

8 minutes ago, onera1961 said:

Money talks. If you're not contributing any money for their living expenses, mother can always play game and not allow you to see your children.  MY suggestions will be to talk to the mother and come to an understanding how much you will contribute for their upkeep. Once that is settled, I believe you can get what you need for your visa and visits. What does the mother do? How did you meet her?

That´s a good advice. I took for granted that the OP tried that already, otherwise that´s always the first approach.

4 hours ago, MainBerry said:

 

Good info, but all what I read here regarding the "Non-O based on child dependant" says that I have to have some signed copies from the mother?! You say the original birth certificate + my passport copy + copy of the legalization paper would be enough?

I do think it would be enough, if they ask you can always tell them that the mother is avoiding you. That might give you the first one to give you time to sort the rest out. However, you said you had the blue book so you can make a couple of copies anyway. I can not guarantee it, but I think it would be worth a try. Otherwise you just get a new tourist visa, so it gives you time to sort it in court with the mother.
 

4 hours ago, MainBerry said:

 

Would it be enough in Sawannakhet to have only copies of the birth cert? Because I wouldnt really know where to start with obtaining the birth certificate, is it at the place where the children are born or the place where they are listed in the housebook?

You will not get away with not showing the original of the birth certificate. They will make you a new as I stated in the earlier post. That would be at the amphur that made the first cerificate. With that said, in the city they were born.

4 hours ago, MainBerry said:

 

The last will be a real problem, the amphur where I was legalized as father requested 15.000 THB tea money.... and we had to sit there 5 hours and I doubt anybody wanted to speak to me. I doubt I can do that by myself, I think I wouldnt even get through to the counter.

Riddiculous! Did you pay 15k baht tea money? Really! In that case you shall contact the MFA and relevant authorities that controls the amphur. If they refuse to talk to you or want you to pay again, then you just bring it to a higher level.

18 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

It wouldn't be the first time that the date or arrival of the flight rather than the time you arrive at the desks has been cited as day 1.

 

In the current climate, arguing with an immigration officer or his superior when you've called him (which I omitted to mention), is, shall we say unwise.

 

Ok, let´s say it might. In that case the best option is to go to an immigration office and pay for an extension, even if only one day is needed. then the OP has done all right and have nothing to worry about. We are talking about 1900 baht here, and probably not an object.

1 hour ago, MainBerry said:

For me it kinda looks like the visa because of Thai children only applies to live-in fathers but what if I wish to see them on  a regular basis, ie. every weekend or similiar?! Seems to be an dead end.

Nope it´s not the dead end. If it is the document proven you are a legalized father you have. Then you can use that together with a copy of your passport, to get the amphur in your district to write you a new birth certificate. If you have done the legalization process in the amphur and do not have the document, they should still have a record of that and can make you a new birth sertificate.

if you done the legalization in court, and do not have the document of that. Then you get a new copy stamped from the court, and still go to the amphur and get a new birth certificate. The reason I know this is because I´ve gone to our amphur and done that just because we once couldn´t find the first one, so know we have two. At that moment I wasn´t even legalized as a father but they could find my name on the file in the computer anyway and made a new one in only 15 minutes.

After that you can go on your merry way to Sawannakhet and apply for your Non-O based on child dependant. Regarding the info you have about live-in-fathers, that is all wrong. You might have to live in the same amphur or province but you can live on another address and see your children occasionly.

To make this a lawful agreement so that you can see your children on a regular basis, you will do best in petition the court to summon the mother for an agreement and a signed court order on that. She seems like she believe she can do as she want and come away with it.

1 hour ago, Crossy said:

Even if he won't you would only have one day overstay on the 1st December, no fine and a small stamp in your PP.

If he wont? He have the duty to change if its wrong. All people do not want undesired "small stamps" in their passport. Probably the reason why the OP asks, because I don´t think the main reason is for 500 baht (if that would have been the case, but its not).

If he refuse to change its just to speak to a superior. Making them work the right way can only be achieved if more people stand up and tell them when something is wrong.

Always finding out best by looking at their website. There they show clearly that it´s closed.

http://www.chiangmaiimm.com/en/

At least we can for sure say that Big Oud, pink cards and yellow books has nothing to do with this. As Joe states above, it´s a single officer how don´t know what he is doing or just have one of those bad days.

4 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Ha...I just posted same time as you and assumed OP was using money in bank method. Will leave my post for others

At least we have both answers in the thread now. ???? 

As I understand you will have to show 65k bath every month since january 2019. I am assuming that you base your retirement on monthly income.

2 hours ago, Enzian said:

I have an appointment at a private hospital (Mission) but I assume they will be open or they would not have scheduled me.

Correct, One would assume that.

On 6/3/2019 at 8:36 PM, myjawe said:

haha, it seems that you expect from Thai as much as I expect...

True that most of them are useless, but look, some people can become rich, so maybe they cannot all be retarded ?

Now we try to blame the total population for one place misstake told by one person on this forum. Good work!

I can turn it around, and say that I have good contacts with all our neighbours. I just have to ask one of them, tell how long we be away and are paying 300 per day. That´s for take care of 2 dogs, 1 cat and 3 birds. Before it was a rabbit included in that too, but that one died out of age and boredom. ???? 

I just guess it has to do with how much you enjoy Thailand, the people that live here and how good skills you have to communicate. If you live up to all that, which should be mandatory when living in their country, then its not hard and you will have no problem.

The simple answer is that you can´t extend after getting 30 days already, and that is why your extension is beeing denied. When that happens, they give you 7 days to leave the country. Not at all anything that has to do with an overstay or an overstay stamp.

12 hours ago, Happy Grumpy said:

Perfectly legal.

No it´s not!

4 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

How are they to know if you had held new funds outside and then transferred them here? And have you ever heard of this being investigated by them so you have to pay an idiotic tax of your own money? If the money was made outside of Thailand it should be free and clear.. 

 

No, they can not know as of the systems that are in use today.

No have never heard of anybody that has been investigated.

Yes, they should be, but that is not the legal way. The normal laws states for most countries, that if you reside over 180 days in another country, then you shall pay your tax there, otherwise you are eligable for tax in the country the money is made. it´s much more, only a quick introduction to that mine field. ???? 

19 minutes ago, smedly said:

it is a scam and may I remind you that the Thai economy comes mostly from foreigners - either in country or from outside, your economy would collapse without us

 

remember that

What? My economy? I am not Thai, I referred to their economy.

A second WHAT? Are you really that naive, so you belive that you as a foreigner is a part of the biggest contribution to the Thai economy? But please? Did we just touch pre-school level or is that hubris fitting you well? In 2017 was tourism only 10,4% of Thailand GDP. Can you then, understand how much bigger that sector is, than the people that are living in Thailand or contributing with money from outside?

Together with chinese and all migrant workers, the total population of foreigners in Thailand is about 4.5-5 million, which stand for smaller than 7% of the total population. Regarding the expat community based on how many lives here om retirement visas, that would be arounf 100 000-120 000 people.

Please explain your outrageous unbelivable facts a little bit more.

6 minutes ago, smedly said:

because this thread is implying that people are going to be forced to pay for something they neither want or need - it is a scam and nothing more

Nope, it´s not a scam. It´s a new requirement that is totally in line with protecting the country´s interest and save their economy for their citizens.

If this becomes a new requirement, which nobody knows yet, then want is totally irrelevant. Regarding the need. In that case yes, because it´s become a requirement.

2 minutes ago, fishtank said:

Good luck with that. Lol.

I would know. I have been using it, and I have been paying it for the last 14 years.

By the way, I don´t believe in luck. Luck is just a tool used by those who make bad predictions.