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No, it hasn´t hasn´t been happening before.

If you are refused an extension or a visa, means that you no longer have the right to stay inside the Kingdom of Thailand. That´s what happens.

If you change to extension based on marriage, then you will only need 400K in bank or a monthly 40K income, that you can show verification and origin for. 800K is no longer a relevant number for you.

As you under stand, a refusal of showing one of the two required ways of means to supporting yourself and your family, will lead to that your application for extension beening denied.

Your best option will be as BritManToo states, to apply for a Non-O Multiple Entry that still don´t requires any proof of fund or money in the bank.

Do see to that you get all the required paperwork, otherwise exactly as jackdd states above.

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

 Is it as bad as tales I hear?

No, it´s much worse and more horrible! The scene cannot be explained in words, due to that it´s a total nightmare that has to be seen. Been there and will never ever return.

In short, yes you will need a ticket out, to be sure if embassy, consulate, airline or Immigration suddenly feel the need to ask for it. You are the one that make a choice of putting yourself on the safe side, with no possibilities for hick-ups. However, it will be perfect with a cheap ticket to a most nearby country, sometimes even with possibility to cancel once you are here.

Hey Guys, lighten up! It isn´t that bad. Hold on to your choice in life. Stand strong! Soon you´re going to be the only one in the Immigration Office. Lightening Fast Service - Instant Approval - Cash Only! That´s gonna bring a smile to your gloomy ill-predicted future.

To the OP. Thanks for a positive report, and as we all know. If you are nice, communicative and go by the rules there is usually no problem with most things. Have a nice weekend!

20 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

"if you can afford it." You mean if a person is that rich and can afford the throw their money away.

My opinion is that you´re repeating that some things are only for rich people, without having any clue about what you are referring to as rich.

Here there is a talk about staying in Thailand, in almost the same, or the same, way as living in Thailand. There is first a reason for why there are different names on visas. The name tourist visa, does mean that you visit the country as a tourist, not that you are living there. There is not many countries in the world that would allow non citizens to continuously live in the country with tourist visas back to back on an almost permanent basis. Thoose are undisputable facts.

Now over to the funny stuff. Disregarding if it regards a person that choose to live on a permanent basis on a tourist visa or an Elite Visa as well as retirement and marriage extension the value of and the safety that the economics represent is utlimately the same. That means in fact that having or investing 500K baht, could not EVER be considered beeing rich. As you are putting yourself in the risk of leaving the comfort of your native and home country, you will at least need to have a minimum of the double amount in frre capital to be able to handle yourself in a minimalistic way in a foreign country to have the safety that is needed if something happens. Also that is undisputable facts, for all persons that know how to take care of themselfs in a logical and reasonable well planned way.way.

Sounds to me like everything should be alright for entering the first time. Wgen you re-enter for another 30 day visa exemp entry, your might need a return ticket within 30 days.
That mean you might be asked and possibly be denied entry. Better to have one, byt you can book that one just before you plan to enter Thailand the second time.

3 hours ago, lovesthespicy said:

I actually spent 4k to rent a private van to take us over the border and all the way to Ubon. The van picked us up at the consulate and took us directly over the border. He seemed to be pretty in the know with the border guys and he grabbed are passports and handed them to the border guys etc. 4k seems pricey i imagine i could of found better but he was the one i found and it made the trip very easy as i didnt have to take buses or vans back with a bunch of people. No questions asked at border and we were way way ahead of all the border runners.

No it´s actually not expensive for the service and easy going travel. To me it was the best descision and a very wise one.

11 hours ago, scorecard said:

Ever thought about getting PR, you've been here a long time.

Oh, yes! And pay another 200K. Very cost effective advice to a guy that stays on TV´s.

41 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

You're probably thinking of the salary requirement for someone working in Thailand.

Nope! but as I said, i don´t remember where, and just mixed it up with money for show.

47 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

That doesn't match with the advice we've been getting here on the TM30 issue.

 

Rather, it's that if you have a home established, and then go and stay in a domestic Thai hotel that reports a TM30 for you at their address, and THEN you try to go to Immigration for an extension, it's not going to work because the TM30 system won't show you reported at your home address. Supposedly, the TM30 system only keeps the most recent report location for you, whatever that may be.

 

Also, I went to BKK CW Immigration today to apply for a new retirement extension. And in processing my paperwork, the officer asked to see BOTH my latest 90 Day Report receipt and a TM30 receipt. And once I provided those, she made photocopies of both, required me to sign them, and added them to my other passport photocopies in my pile of documents.

 

So at this point, for anyone going to BKK CW for an extension of stay, I advised today in my trip report thread on this to bring along a copy of your latest 90 Day Report AND a TM30 receipt, since at least BKK CW Immigration now appears to be enforcing both!

 

PS -- lots of folks at BKK CW today were being turned away from their extension applications until they had made a TM30 report in that adjoining section and were able to provide proof to the extension handling officers.

 

 

Ok, Now it´s two. I stand corrected. It only works perfect, everywhere that I go.

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

CW imm is BKK.

Geez

Yep Geez with a G!

2 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Far from it. You do not even report to CW. 

Address the OP and spare us useless info from unrelated imm office. Every member on TVF is aware of different imm offices having their particular "rules"

BTW your original comment re tm30 rules is just plain WRONG. Fact your imm does not require it is irrelevant

Guss that was the end of the discussion. Have a great one!

9 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Spare me. I am always polite with imm and people in general. As for imm offices in Thailand ....I read many posts re farang having cozy relationships with imm office. That does not apply in CW. Not because the officers have issues etc. Its due to vast number of folk attending that office. This post from op related to CW. 

 

So, now you are talking Chaeng Wattana, before you were betting on not BKK. What´s next? So, you do not believe there is a possibility to have a good relation with IO´s working in an well visited office? Hmmmm.... what is your next misstake?

@DrJack54I didn´t expect anything more than a laugh from you. That´s usually the last resort for the ones that can´t admit they ain´t got their portfolio under control.

32 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

I'm betting your local imm officer was not bkk.

You bet right. There is one thing, though. That is how good connection you have with your IO, and the Immigration Office you belong to. 

As I see it, many people on this forum just complain about the changes instead of rolling with them and deliver a smile. I guess they do not realize how much that smile is really worth, neither do they realize how easy it would be to give it at the same time as they comply with and embrace the rules.

I guess that was the last nail in the coffin that you needed. If not, I can buy a bigger hammer.

5 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

You state that with such confidence. That does not match up with stated "rules". What is a "soft" registration? 

It simply means that that your are not obligated to make a new TM30 if you do not leave the country, and sometimes not even then out of the information I got around a day ago on this forum.

It has also been told to me in person by an Immigration officer at my local Immigration Office.

14 minutes ago, sirholly said:

hotel does a TM 30 every time I stay upcountry

but I never do a TM30 when I get back to BKK

Why that works is easy to explain. The address notification you have been doing one time in the past, was the same as a TM30. When you go and stay at a hotel, they only make a temporary (soft) registration of address. When you check out, the registration you made at your original home address (hard copy) is again valid.

1 hour ago, geoffbezoz said:

But Thais have the right to make their own rules so it is what it is

Of course they have. What about your country of origin? Do they make their own rules, and have a legislation that originates from the country?

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

Correct for a single entry to tourist visa application.

For a multiple entry tourist visa that you can apply for in your home country or country of legal residence you need to show 200k baht in a bank for 6 months.

Ok, thanks for the correction. Is there nothing that is 50K then? I got such a feeling that I read that somewhere?

14 minutes ago, Damaz6052 said:

Submitted my docs this morning for a non o based on marriage. No proof of funds required.

 

Filipino lady in front of me was turned away for not having her bank statements. She was applying for a tourist visa.

Yes, for Tourist Visa it´s 20K for single entry and 50K for multiple if I remember right.

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

I believe there should be 2 weeks left on his permission to stay to do the conversion to a Non-Imm-O Entry. It could be on the original 60 day TV Entry, or a 30 day extension.

Might be 2 week. Regarding the 60 day or 90 day, I just geve recommendation after the extension because it sounded like the OP would make one.