GrandPapillon

it's not surprising the Tories couldn't strike a deal with the EU, they have a history of being foolish and unreliable

as for the "unelected" forces behind the EU, there are also "unelected" forces behind in the UK

I guess it's better to be <deleted> over by your own people than the French or the Germans ????

and they said the Brexiteers are not racists ????

3 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

 

He has an 80 seat majority (something the Brexiteers rejoice in) so can basically change whatever laws he wants.

and he will if he thinks it's useful and can get away with it

I have to admit that I will miss this Brexit <deleted> show next year ????

5 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

That confirms no deal the EU will not give in and Boris has been right all along but was obligated to try as stated.

 

Boris didn't really try, he was wasting time for everybody

fine, he will get his WTO deal, and let's see how he can negotiate after this

DeGaulles was right to ban the UK from joining prior to 1974, finally they are leaving, party time ????

Indeed, KSR was basically a hot spot for rich and middle classThais, the real dirty backpackers were all gone or moved to Bali or Cambodia 10 years ago

they are not getting the message, and trying to save a sinking ship

the Chinese have destroyed mass tourism, which incidentally they benefited the most by making that global industry grow exponentially 

yeah, StarBucks in OnNut, large tables where everyone can work with their laptop

great vibes and cheap, cup of a coffee will buy you all day there ????

Game Over Boris, you lost, surrendered, and we won ????

Vive le EU !!!

2 hours ago, david555 said:

Irish problem solved in principal ....the J.Biden effect has worked ...USA influance worked magicly ????

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-deal-northern-ireland-protocol-latest-b1767989.html

 

The EU and the UK have agreed a deal “in principle” on the fraught issue of the Northern Ireland border, after months of confusion about how the Brexit withdrawal agreement should be implemented.

 

Under the agreement, the British government has agreed to withdraw clauses from its taxation and internal market bills that would have breached international law by giving it the power to unilaterally overwrite the treaty.

awesome, Boris is already starting to surrender to EU requirements ????

1 minute ago, Kwasaki said:

Pray tell why you bothered to read and write English. ????

Great culture, awesome music, terrible business partners ????

The UK is doing the right thing, that is leaving the EU, but no deal? it's like committing suicide, not sure what's the point, they have a good deal on the table

rumours has it that it's not about the Fisheries, it's a diversion for the press, the real reasons are kept secret by the negotiators

There is no point to living in Thailand long term these days, much better alternatives in Europe and South America

Covid is going to be the trigger for the collapse of Thailand ridiculous visa schemes, they are starting already to realize how f... they are

when mass travelling was easy, it was "understandable" but mass travelling is never going to be the same again, so the current restrictions is going to starve their country in terms of tourism 

12 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Nice to see biden acting presidential and getting things done.

 

As opposed to trump deciding which club to hit from the first tee.

Biden will certainly be more Presidential, but don't expect him to do anything

and how long before allegations of rapes and sexual abuses to young women will surface so the News organizations can maintain their level of interests in politics after 4 wonderful years under Trump ????

4 minutes ago, stevenl said:

The minority has a bigger voice, hence the Electoral College. But for the electoral college to ignore the votes as cast in the state and go for the minority because they are spread out better, as you claim should be done, is simply nonsense.

it's exactly the same thing, the Grand Electors take the decision based on the "concentration" of the state, the "minority" is the red in this case, not the blue. The Blue won the popular votes because of the vote concentration, the red are spread all over in small quantities. The Red is the "minority"

How do you "equalize" that when you have to cast a vote to "represent" all votes equally,

Indeed, March is being optimistic, I think June or July is more likely

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

"If I was a Grand Elector in those states, I would clearly make the decision for red and not blue on Dec 14th"

 

So you would chose for the minority. Sad.

 

You're not addressing the point I made.

I think you are missing one yourself, the founding fathers didn't like "popular" votes, and thought "equality" was more important than "popularity"

So yes, the minority should be given a bigger voice to adjust for their "minority" conditions,

so technically, a Grand Voter should go Red come to Dec 14th, not Blue. Now, they usually follow the "popular" votes, but they are in direct violation of their "original mission".

You can't silent Trump votes just become you don't like him. No matter how much of a pig he is ????

The vote counting in the US has always been flawed, and the Republicans knew it, hence why they were able to call it in 2000 and hand it over to GW Bush.

As Stalin used to say, I paraphrase here: "it's not how many votes you receive, but who is counting those votes"

????

8 minutes ago, stevenl said:

If fraud on a deciding scale was committed the senate would have been won by the Democrats. Look at the results independently of Congress, Senate and President, and it is very clear this was not a rebuke of Republicans but a rebuke of Trump.

Trump managed to gain a lot of new votes in this election, and it was a close call, not the Biden tsunami that a complete rejection of Trump would have created

If you look at the map of the "questionable" states, it's all red, with a few clusters of blue in big cities. If I was a Grand Elector in those states, I would clearly make the decision for red and not blue on Dec 14th, no matter what election system was used locally.

The system was designed to give equal votes between "unpopulated" states and "populated" states, which is quite smart actually.

Technically the Grand Elector should follow that same principle at the county level when they cast their votes on Dec 14th

5 hours ago, vinny41 said:

The Uk is leaving the EU is due to the Scotish and Northern Ireland voters that voted leave, without those votes the UK would still be in the EU

the irony, those 2 with their actions are going to break up the United Kingdom ????

it's not impossible to think the election was biased, and some frauds were committed.

Not the first time or the last time, happened to Gore in 2000 with GW Bush, so I guess it's only natural that the other side win with a "questionable" election

Biden is going to do nothing anyhow, much like Obama, sadly. Maybe the VP could replace him soon and she will get things moving in the right direction.

2 hours ago, flightcrew said:

My Thai neighbours who were all employed in the tourist industry use to ask me why I did not wear designer cloths/watches/latest phones, or have a big car, when they were buying and using all the expensive latest gear themselves as I am a rich farang!

 

Now they are all suffering very badly and moved to Udon to sell vegetables, because no money in Pattaya any more.

For some reason the local people spend there money as soon as they get it and never plan for a rainy day.

it's not only local people, most people in the west are the same, don't save for the future, and blow it all on stupid things

Mass tourism is a disease and is destroying landscape and natural habitat, have negative impact on local economies that become junkies and feed on it like it was their last chance for air

in some ways, COVID is putting a new perspective on things, so it's not all negative

the reactions of world governments is ridiculous though, even more so in third world countries and dictatorships