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That's happened to many of us, but mutual is always better. Sadly, most never get that real closeness because of jealousy, greed, arguments over nonsense and unrealistic expectations.

True, and what I've noticed also. It's considered wrong for men and women to show affection in public. Old school which is changing. No reason people can't hug, hold hands and a short kiss in public but that's Thailand, at least for now. The men can hug men and women hug women, but it's still not done much. Even, like you said,in get togethers, they don't hug anyone except a quick one to the toddlers. After kids reach a certain age, about 5, they're neglected. My ex grew up into a narcissist because her mom had 11 children. Her mom had one kid after another, and that's hard for a very loving, caring mom, let alone one that's not affectionate and abusive. Her dad was also abusive and strict (this is from her words), so the kids, when they reached 2 or 3, were pushed aside, making room for the next, then the next, and so on. This is neglect and kids grow up to be narcissists that don't trust anyone and only use, like she turned out. Kids are put in school at 2 a lot here, and raised by teachers and grandmas. Dad is working on the farm so he's only seen at night. Schools here used corporal punishment a lot, and still do now, although it's supposed to be illegal. Hitting kids is normal behavior, with sticks and such, and it teaches violence is the answer. You see this daily on TV and in person, people chasing others 5 against 1, armed with sticks and kicking them while down. This is behavior they learn on the streets because dad isn't home, or does the same thing himself. Physical contact is very important, especially while young, and if not there, they see it as foreign. They can learn to accept it, but it takes time.

I only seem gullible to those who don't understand what I say. Being uneducated on certain topics and doing things you think are okay when they aren't makes you look small minded and dangerous. Every time you post you try to prove me wrong yet can't. How do you know, again, what anyone here is doing during the day? Maybe in your little world you haven't experienced the things some say happen here, but that doesn't mean they aren't happening. I don't have a list of grievances against anyone here besides my ex. I see things as they are, then make a decision. Thailand itself isn't the problem. It's certain people here that do things that aren't right, are prejudicial, born of jealousy and lack common sense, just like everywhere else. It takes planning to re-establish back home. You can't just up and leave, especially when you have a child that needs to be placed in a school, a house needs to be rented, a job found, a car bought, a house full of things to be shipped back and other things. Think before you post. You look more dense with every assuming reply.

How can you assume he's lonely? He's married to a Thai. And how do you not make it here, and still stay? You either like it here or you don't. If you can't stay, you leave. What Bob says is true, although many are brown nosers, don't go outside their village much, not look at the news, and not have had bad experiences here and think they don't happen. They surely do, many thousands of times, to us and to the locals. Some walk outside at night and never encounter trouble. Some come here as tourists and end up robbed, hurt or dead because they were in the wrong place, wrong time. Many encounter indifference or animosity from some here and want to talk about it here. This country is a nice country, but, like all other countries, it has people in it that ruin things for others, and give it a bad name. We are taken for granted here, as well as hated, feared, jealous of, and respected. Many different people makes many different problems. Bob's a realist from what I see. I don't think he makes up stories like others do, because I, and others, can relate. Some will disagree, but that happens with anything anyone says here.

I didn't say or mean you had to do anything you didn't want to do. You either go into a relationship looking at a woman as a possible long term or permanent thing, or look at her as someone to pass the time with until you find someone you think is better. Some people only look at women as objects to use. Others look at them as human beings to relate to. Maybe, since the attraction is already there, to go further to find out all you can about them to see if you can make future plans. Ever think why these friends only want to have "company"when they want it? Trust me, I'm not near a prude and have been with many women. I always looked at women and girls (earlier) as someone to have a relationship with, because the attraction was already there. Most people don't end up with the first partner they choose, because future plans don't match. Players are there for one reason. To get off in a woman then on to the next one. That attitude leaves many children without fathers, and makes women hate men over time. If you don't want a relationship, don't waste a good woman's time, period. Get a hooker to get your rocks off then hope you don't get something you can't get rid of. Why hurt a woman who's looking for a good man to take care of her and love only her? I know many men don't have a conscience are don't care about the women they're having sex with. You can date as many women as you want, not going further if you can't relate on the future, but sex always gets in the way and causes many problems. Again, not a prude and I did have many intimate relationships when I was younger. Again, these were girls and women I always wanted to look towards the future with but never got further because of those different future plans Then I thought about it more and knew I was hurting some of them because they wanted to stay, even though we both knew it wouldn't last. We all make mistakes , and hurt some, but doing it intentionally is a completely different matter entirely. You're right about your paragraph to the OP. Not rushing into things is what many, including myself, have done, and paid the price.

Been around, seen a lot, understand more, listen a lot, maybe wiser?

How do you sound older??

Yes, I was thinking the same thing. I wasn't sure I even had it before, so I went to that doctor. I should have had a followup. It usually doesn't come back once it's eradicated.

I'm sure many know about this infection. Not sure how many have it and it's symptoms without knowing. More than half the world's population has it, most without ever knowing. I just found out yesterday it's what's been causing my stomach problems from gastritis for months now. I thought I had it 5 years ago while staying a few days in Hua Hin. I went to the doctor and told him of my symptoms and he prescribed antibiotics and an antacid. This without taking a test for it. He, like I assumed that's what it was. It went away fast and i thought nothing of it until recently. I had what I thought was IBS by the symptoms. Varying bowel movements from normal to loose, stomach pains, bloating from extra gas. This can be so many things it's hard to know without testing. Cancer, IBS, IBD, gastritis, Crohn's, an ulcer, Gluten Intolerence, Celiac, and more. I've never had a colonoscopy, and I'm 67 (yes, I know) because I've always eaten very healthy and exercised. No excuse as genetics also play a role. No family member I know about has ever had colon or stomach cancer so I dilly dallied until now. My daughter at 37 had hers as she was also having some stomach issues. They removed quite a few polyps but she was clean. She changed her diet, added collagen, vitamins etc and already had stopped smoking. I don't smoke, drink very little and only drank wine for many years before I moved here so I also thought I was safe. Saturday I stopped eating at 5PM. The only thing on Sunday was tea, water and chicken broth. Then came the prep. Two small bottles of sodium phosphate with water started the flow. It wasn't as bad as I heard. I had an endoscopy and colonoscopy. Both clear, no polyps or cancer besides the test for H Pylori coming up positive. I was actually hoping this was where the gastritis was from. They gave me two antibiotics and an antacid. Today, since I came home, things are better. The regimen usually eradicates H Pylori so I'm glad. H Pylori is nothing to ignore. It can lead to stomach cancer if left untreated, so it's a good idea if you're having gastro issues to look to that first.

It's also the world's 4th largest religion. Followers follow the moral and ethics codes of Siddhartha like Christians follow God. Have you ever looked at people praying to the statues of Buddha? Some might not consider Buddhism a religion, but it surely is. This is from Wikipedia..............Buddhism (/ˈbʊdɪzəm/ BUUD-ih-zəm, US also /ˈbuːd-/ BOOD-),[1][2][3] also known as Buddha Dharma and Dharmavinaya, is an Indian religion[a] and philosophical tradition based on teachings attributed to the Buddha, a wandering teacher who lived in the 6th or 5th century BCE.And one definition of religion.............a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance................. I don't have a so called education. It's quite real, and since I've been a constant reader all of my life, ongoing.

There are countless western women who do the same things, so it's not limited to those here. And when you're in a relationship it's mandatory you look at it with plans for the future, if that's your plan also. Some like just to date various women, playing the field, but that gets old after awhile and you want someone you can really get close to. Looking for a way out will lead you there, as you'll be looking for her to make a mistake, which everyone does, but as long as she's faithful and honest, and you're attracted to each other, you have more than many will ever have. A tad of jealousy happens because of a little insecurity and fear of losing someone. As long as it's not 20 questions and checking up on everything you do, it's okay.

I'm not sure what you're referring to as I think you confused me with someone else. Who doesn't like my company? I'm not asking anything here but trying to help the OP. And insecure I'm not. I know women very well. I just made a few bad choices because of attraction. Just like most other men.

It hasn't gone wrong in 4 years. Just took patience from me because of her childhood and husband damage. I didn't say she was perfect. We're good together. That's all that matters. I've been with many very pretty women who I ended up leaving because they had major issues. I would stay with this one if I had that choice. Time will tell.

A genuine relationship is where both benefit from it, with both contributing whatever is needed to keep stress low, equal input on finances, equal input on house duties and child rearing, and as much touch as possible. I've had this a few times, but things ended because future plans weren't the same. I've also had relationships where they were takers, and these ended. People look their whole lives and if they are lucky, they will find their other half. Most women will never know the love of a good man. They might stay married and not be abused or cheated on, but if they're neglected, they won't have happiness. Being comfortable with each other is what everyone needs. At least what good people need. The bad ones deserve to be with other bad ones. Mismatches happen all the time.

Look back at all your posts on this topic. Let me know if you see one that's a positive, helping reply. The OP asked for advice. Not insults, childish banter or prejudice. Kidding around is fine, but insulting another man's woman isn't. Most people learn this in childhood. Many here in Thailand don't have a loving childhood, so they're starving for affection and sometimes can't accept good, because they don't believe they deserve it. Absent fathers are numerous here, and that's where a girl first learns her worth, or not.

You can look up Dr. Zhivago, herpes researcher and shoe salesman online.

She knows a good thing when she sees one. A year tells a lot about a person. Having a pretty and honest woman is worth spending money on. Many spend and get little to nothing but grief.

Yes, sorry but that's all we have until someone comes up with a cure.

The only cure is removal of genitals.

No, I'm her boyfriend and I do enjoy it. She already has a dad. She's not a teenager like some here go after, but in her 40's.

Women in the west also look for older men. Maybe not as much as here but it happens all the time. And some expats have six packs. His girlfriend is 25 years younger, mine is 24. Back home I had an ex girlfriend that was 14 years younger.

One never puts trust into someone who assumes things. Like I mentioned before and a few other times. No one knows what's going on in any other person's life unless you're with them 24/7. There are good women in this world that like older men because an older man usually knows how to better treat a woman than a younger one. It's not always about money, even here.

I'm quite awake. Everyone pays. Some to take care of their girlfriends to help them in life. Some to take care of their wives and children, and some to get 5 minutes of sex with a girl that wouldn't even ask your name nor remember you an hour later. Every man helps their girlfriends in life if they care about them as a person and not a piece of prime rib.

From most of your replies to various topics, you seem to be the kind of man who purchases women for their own pleasure. You do understand that this doesn't give you the knowledge to reply when someone posts about their girlfriends or wives right? If someone wanted to know how to buy a woman here, this might be right up your alley because you have personal experience in these matters.

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