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It was only meant to be the point that many have had children by the time they are 20. I know it doesn't mean all. The birth rate has dropped a bit in recent years but the amount of single parent families here has increased, meaning girls with children. The US has more but here the fathers aren't held accountable for the children they make, leaving the mother to fend for herself and many times (35%+) leaving the children behind with grandparents, the highest rate worldwide. Sexual permissiveness here is very high, with the legal age of 15 being ridiculous, especially seeing those dads aren't going to stick around most of the time, and not pay for the child's future. It's very sad for these mothers because some of them care for their children and stick around, working locally so they can take care of the kids. This is another reason why they look at us, thinking we will be responsible for their kids if we stay with them.

People heal from relationships but they never forget how they were treated, and many bring that anger into the following relationships, sometimes ruining what could have been the best thing in their lives. All because some player looked at them as objects to use. There's no way of knowing how a woman feels unless you talk to her and she trusts you enough to let you in. Thai woman are no different than all other women in the world as far as their needs and desires, how they react to being used, how long it takes to heal from a bad relationship, how they lose or regain trust, and how they treat the men who follow a bad one.

I wasn't referring to the women.

Wives tire of husbands that treat them like slaves or sex objects. You treat a normal woman right, meaning one that's not a paid for employee or well damaged by the men in her life, especially her father, and they'll reciprocate. So many men say this but when you ask the wives they'll tell you different. No woman won't respond well to good treatment. Even the ones that haven't been treated well will appreciate the difference. People don't change much at all after 30, especially their character. If your wife nags you all the time, maybe you haven't been listening the right way, and doing things that don\t upset her intentionally. But wait, you have no experience being a husband so you cannot put your two cents in. Going by what some of your friends have said, and if they hang around with a person that looks at women like you do, I'd be suspicious of their thinking anyway, means nothing if they also treat their women wrong. Trust is given, and you have to give it because if you don't, they'll always be thinking you don't trust them, and that's trouble. Goes both ways of course. Again, wives don't change their minds if you're being consistently good with them, treat them as partners instead of house cleaners and cooks, help around the house, romance them by taking them on dates all the time, not just the first couple of years. Finding a good woman is the hardest thing a man can do, and sometimes it takes along time. Treating women badly makes them turn against and not trust any man.

They take it hard because they have been fooled by yet another teenage thinking man, and like I said in the other post, they take revenge on the ones that follow, and might never be able to get close to the one man that really cares.

If you're over 35, and the way you talk it seems otherwise, and aren't married by that time, then your hatred and or mistrust of women is definitely ingrained. Bragging about having another man's wife, albeit sluts because they cheated, sounds like a lie for one thing, and if it's the truth, you need to think about this because the next one might end your days. You are setting yourself up for a retirement of either paying ,like you say you don't, or being in a relationship with a real winner, because only a real winner would stay with someone with your history. Unless of course you lie to her like you're lying to us. A player, like you say you are, is i it for control, and that's where that hatred and mistrust comes in. Someone taught you to hate women and to only use them. It's usually because you lack a sense of control in your own life, so you do this to others to feel something. The rush from having non committal sex only lasts awhile, because making love isn't the same as using a woman for your own pleasure, and it gets old fast. Rinse and repeat, until you're too old to get one to stay. A player has low self esteem and uses the attention to boost their fragile egos. Here it's easy because the girls, like I mentioned, are full of hope. Hurting these women makes it harder for them to enjoy a normal relationship with a man that actually understand women and knows how to love them. So in effect you are hurting other men as well.

That's because along with your style of thinking comes mistrust of the very women you're using. This is a learned behavior. Something that is hard to turn around and it comes from either seeing it firsthand growing up or not trusting those that were responsible for teaching you values. Not too late to change, although narcissism has no cure, only an ability to understand the damage you're doing and try and understand what it is to be an empath.

A real man ends things as soon as he can because staying in a loveless, abusive relationship is never good for children. Children do better when people part, as long as they can be civil towards each other, and share parenting. Many times jealousy or hate makes that impossible, so you do your best to be at least one parent for the child(ren). You do what you can to stay together, and that means both work at it. If one does the work and the other doesn't care after a reasonable amount of time, you negotiate what's best for the kids. If you can't, you have to let a cold court decide, and that usually doesn't favor the man, although I had custody of 4 of my children back home because my ex was a nutcase.

Using women for your own pleasure isn't writing books but making a mockery of them, along with the women you use. I've dated many women, many of which were looking for a physical relationship with a man with a good body, as I was from age 17 on. It was mutual. No future plans. Just shared company and some fun. Those I dated I was serious about I never used, and let things go along until we both decided if it was going to work. Many didn't have the same future plans I did, so we parted. I never lied to them, or forced them into anything they didn't want, at least at that time. Relationships end for many reasons, and if starts to hurt someone, you leave. I was always looking for a relationship, although one night stands happened. When things aren't going like both want them, you leave. Someone might get hurt, but better now than later. And the hurt will pass quick because it wasn't what either wanted for the future. People get attracted to each other quick, and things happen, but again, I was always looking for a girlfriend, and not a woman to use and toss aside. I dated two here after I divorced my wife, and both weren't what I was looking for, so it stopped immediately. The one I'm with now I've been with over three years. She has only been with her husband, who passed away, and who treated her bad and didn't support her like a husband should. The same for the children they made. She dated a few farangs, who didn't accept her for some reason or another, and she doesn't want a Thai man for many reasons, all of which are known here. If I could, I would marry her and bring her back to the states when I leave. It might happen, but for now we're doing okay. I'm not a user, as it always backfires. And that's always, unless you don't care about being alone or with a b*tch that despises you and only stays because you have more money than a local usually has. And being with someone that doesn't love, respect, care for you and enjoy you're company is worse than being alone. The older you get, the less you can fool. Using women here is easy because they're dreamers, hoping for something better than what locals (most) can give them. The more you use, the more they begin to despise foreigners also. That's jaded, and a good girl doesn't deserve that.

I don't think I need to fool girls at all. I'm honest with them all along. I've been married to those that chose to hurt, and they lost a man that knows how to treat a woman, as all men should do. I've been around with and dated women for almost 50 years, dated over 100, and have read many books on the subject of how to get along. I, like most others, made mistakes in my choices and both I and the children we made paid the price. I have never become jaded or angered by these failures because they made me what I always was, and have become better at. being a man. Men don't use women and toss them aside. Boys do, because they have never, or yet, been taught what a woman is, and means. They aren't objects to get off in, nor hit, abuse and walk all over. they are our equals, and anyone who thinks otherwise has never learned what being a man really is. People are attracted to each other because of chemistry, not because of money, besides those that are object oriented and don't care what they have as long as they can buy them things. Attraction isn't a choice. You either are or you're not. Sometimes you might not feel attracted much when you first meet someone, but if you get to know them, it grows because of respect. Respect is what happens when you look at women as people and not accomplishments. I suggested you use prostitutes because good women aren't meant to be used. A prostitute is damaged goods, and only looks at you as money to pay her way. Why would any woman want to make love with a "man" who was only doing it to get off, and has done it countless times with clueless women before? I hope you know every word you say here makes you look like a man even most men despise. Of course, some will stick up for you because they think like you do. That women are objects to use. They aren't, no matter if they are bad or good. If you don't like someone, move on and let them be with someone that appreciates who they are for who they are, and not what they can give you.

If you think you will fool girls when you get older, you're fooling yourself, as the older you get, the more they will be looking for money and the less anything else. Of course anyone knows that the more girls you sleep with (use) the better chance you will get something you won't get rid of, or worse. This is why smart men choose to stick with a good woman, forsaking all others because the next one can be Satan. All women cost money. Some are worth it. Those you don't use or take for granted. Remember one thing, women look at you the same way, although some , especially here where they hope for a payout, are looking for someone that actually cares. Some farangs make all others look bad. Those are the ones who act like tourists with normal girls.

Comparing a car to a human shows exactly what you and some others thinking is. Some people deserve the sex they get, and the other 75% of men don't. Karma comes eventually, although it comes not quick enough.A lot of women are good, and it seems they're the ones who get used and abused, while the trash walks away unscathed. If you're intention is to use, do it with those in the trade, because they know what to expect and leave the good natured ones to those that appreciate them. A conscience is something a non narcissist has. The narcissist doesn't care and looks at women, or men, as things to use and toss aside when they get bored. A narcissist ends up alone.

The problem in the thinking of those outside the US is that many believe what the newscasters say, without living in it themselves. As I've said before, I lived there for 62 years before I moved here, and sold guns, hunted, shot targets, and didn't have a handgun for protection, although I will when I return. I probably won't carry on person but in my car, because there are loose cannons around and if ever there comes a time when I have to defend myself and, or my family, I'd want a gun there to even the odds. People mostly want guns in America for hunting and targets. More and more want them for protection, whether they will ever use them or not. America, as some don't seem to realize, is all countries on earth in one place, with relatives of these people coming from all those countries, and the thinking with them as well. America is the number 1 country because of this. Many minds from all countries together, coming up with ideas that work well, and some don't work so well. Americans have the Constitution which made laws a long time ago, the second amendment being one of those. We don't need a militia, as we have laws there which defend our rights and a government, although not perfect, which does help out it's citizens for the most part. Leaders from every country, elected by people and sometimes just put in there by rich people or by force, are mostly narcissists that only care about power and money. Power being most of it. Trump is a billionaire, and he wanted to be God, so others voted him in because they thought he was a smart businessman that would make a good president. They were wrong. I knew this person was a disturbed man long before he became president. Some didn't see this obviously and he got in. Now more and more are seeing him for what he really is. Biden isn't doing such a bad job. It's just that leaving things up to one man has never been a good idea, as it takes a few like minded individuals that are for everyone to make things work. The infighting is ruining anything the people could hope for. Many countries have either dictators or those that aren't voted in but placed. Even here we see a person the people wanted isn't in but replaced by someone the higher ups wanted, so things would remain as they were. Going back to the yank bashing. It's true that a lot here do it, because they aren't taking what I mentioned into account. Wherever they live or come from, thousands of their nationality live in America, for reasons only they can explain. Trash talking them, especially on a public forum, is stupid. It only makes all of us look bad, seeing we talk bad about other foreigners instead of sticking together in a foreign country. Some Americans might think they are somehow better than anyone else but they're ignorant. Everyone is worth the same. Some have more money and things, but we all are just people with the same kinds of problems. Money can't buy you love, happiness, good health or a good relationship. A lot of people in the US are religious. I was a Catholic but prefer just a Christian now, seeing that religions don't make us closer to God but separate us from others, and sometimes people die from it. Fanatics sometimes use religion as an excuse to hurt others. This isn't being close to God but a hater that thinks they're way is right. History has proven it isn't. Some people , like you mentioned, have shot others in the back as they left their house or car, stopping the threat they had made. This isn't self defense but homicide. This has happened a few times and it makes gun owners look bad. That's where the irresponsibility comes in in gun ownership. If people would practice more, and only use their guns to stop the immediate threat, it wouldn't come out as bad news like it does sometimes. Police abuse their power, shooting unarmed people and those that aren't an immediate threat. There are loose cannons in all fields of work, and a policeman has the tools to hurt and get away with it. This all comes down to mental illness. People who intentionally hurt others who aren't an immediate threat to them or their families are sick. This is proven quite often with American and other countries police forces. Here, an ex cop killed 37 people, including 24 children, because he was mentally ill long before he became a policeman. They didn't test him or he passed somehow, fooling them. People become cops in the US and they are tested, so somethings wrong there. You mentioned that people in the US think differently than the rest of us, meaning you and others from your country, along with other countries. Fact is, people around the world, cultures aside, think much the same. There are only a few different personality types, and these are shared worldwide. Cultures have some thinking some things are a certain way, but people are still, people, with the same attitudes, angers, fears and responsibilities that all other share. Some countries, like this one, are behind in many ways, because of old attitudes and prejudices, but eventually they all get to adopting the thinking and ways of westerners. Some are good, and some aren't. Most people are against killing others, but they have a will to live, and as long as there are people in the world who want to hurt others, there will be people who, rightly so, want them to disappear. If it's going to be you or them, better it's them. Guns will always be around, and if the sick people have them, those that aren't sick need to protect themselves. The police forces can't be everywhere all the time, so that leaves people. Some will abuse that privilege and most won't. Until a better idea comes along, guns will sometimes be in the hands of crazies. And most gun owners aren't out killing people, but just hunting, target shooting and want to feel safer.

There's still attraction in any normal Thai woman to an older man, especially if he takes care of himself and has a six pack. Granted, the money is a big thing here, especially when you see very young with very old but that's the truth in any country where most are poor. Even in other countries, a woman wants to be taken care of. Some more and some much more than others, meaning some have independence and some have none, relying totally on a man's income. There are cheating women everywhere, as well as men, but since that's a mental issue, one tries to find one they can trust, and that takes an open mind, open eyes and time. Letting someone go before you really get to know them is never a good idea, especially if you get along well together, because the one you let go might be the one that's been waiting for a good man all her life, and will prove herself to you by being faithful and loyal. After being burned a few times it's hard to trust. Think how they feel, especially here, where most of the boys leave after a little while, and more yet leave after a child is born. If you take a good looking woman and let her decide on two men. Both with a good income. She will always want the one she's more attracted to. Not fun having sex with someone that's way out of shape, smells, is drunk all the time or abuses her in any way. The ones that cheat on farangs with locals aren't getting the good part of the deal. Their "boyfriends" are usually not good at sex,as is the case with most hit and runs, will never stick around, mainly because if he cheats with you, he will do it with others, isn't going to support her in any way, and when she loses the farang who catches her, which in time is inevitable, she will be all alone with those same boyfriends who only want her aging body for one thing, and that's a maybe as she gets older.

The main point I was trying to get across is making sure you are with the right one. Picking the wrong ones, especially if you have children with them, leads to a lot of tension filled days, months and years with the kids in the middle of chaos. This is why I said most never find real love. If you have a partner that shares like interests, is faithful, caring and communicates with you, you keep them because that's something you may never find again. Of course you have to do the same with her. The OP is talking about leaving a cute girl, thinking he found something better. If she is cute, is a faithful ,loving and caring girl that's main interest is not money, and can speak your language well, which is a must in a relationship, seeing communication is one of the most important things, you're a fool to believe you'll find another like her, especially here. I also mentioned that men who take a woman for granted, always looking for a replacement, will get replaced by someone they really do care about one day. That's the Karma. If you treat a woman well, and she's a good one, she won't despise you. I picked a couple that were mentally ill, which doesn't help in a mutual relationship. Only married 3 times by the way.

Either it's a transaction, real love or a lifetime of misery with someone that doesn't want to be there. You'd be surprised how many foreigners live with women that boss him around, all the while taking his money, maybe seeing other locals who are happy to have sex with another's wife, knowing they won't stay afterwards, or there's year after year of no communication. Finding one who speaks your language, is loyal to you, is happy with whatever you give her without asking for more, likes your company and you liking hers, and wants to grow old with you is a blessing most will never have. Your choice. The ones lining up, especially ones taken, are looking for your money, will tolerate sleeping with someone they despise, will look elsewhere when you're not around, and are spending most of their time with others. You can be more alone with someone than without one. And finding one without kids here, and some hide them, is not an easy task. Most have at least one before they are 20, and the ones that don't have any kids by the time they are 35 might not like being around yours. And any not married by that time have a deep seated anger against men from childhood. In any event, you get what you put in. If you want to pay, yes there are plenty here that will take your money, because to them you're an ATM, at least until something better comes along. If a man continues to use women, he will end up an alone, old, miserable man. Unless you don't care and are used to paying for any sex you receive.

Telling the truth is always the best bet. You think someone might be better for you, although you know nothing about her besides she is another pretty Thai. If you have someone that is faithful to you, isn't only interested in money, treats you as a man, is proud to have you, has like interests and is interested in a future with you, let her go, because you're playing the same game many women here do. Fantasy. Always backfires as many will attest. You only get maybe one chance in life with someone that is right for you. If you blow it, you've only yourself to blame. Most women will never have a real love in their life. The same goes for a man. Most. When a man thinks he deserves better than a good, solid woman, he deserves what he gets, and that's usually alone. The way you treat others has a way of coming back to haunt you. It's called Karma. Besides those that buy their women of course. But in that case, they're only looking for their own pleasure and don't care about a love.

As should everyone else here.

I did say overweight also, meaning carrying more body fat than what is considered healthy. I stand corrected saying that this is worldwide, as most Asians aren't overweight, along with Africans. I've been in the gym business for 50 years, including 16 years of personal training, and see more than the average person does as far as people who are carrying too much body fat. It is more than what is listed in any survey, but again, it's not most. I should have kept that, along with my reply about Walmart waddlers, to the US. In the US, it's above 70% total. People hide body fat in clothes and overweight means just that. My knowledge isn't faulty. I just typed with a particular thing in mind.

Exactly what I commented on a post before. They see a foreigner arrested for something here and automatically it's a Brit or Russian. They trash Americans, knowing full well (maybe) that there are thousands of Brits living in America, along with all other nationalities. America is a country of all other nationalities. American isn't a nationality but a conglomeration of all. There are reasons why people leave their countries and move to America. There are reasons they don't return to their countries. I don't think people can get past their past hatred of others because their parents didn't have the sense to teach them to get along with everyone because we're all in this together.

Such is the thinking in a country where corruption is rampant. Does he not know that when you buy a gun, the owners (buyers) name will be on that purchase? Putting that second gun in the person you shoots hand won't fly, unless of course money is exchanged.

Why do you, and many others, feel the need to label people a certain way just because you don't understand why they do things, or are against what they do for personal reasons, or just out of plain ignorance? I know full well that most of the worlds population is overweight or obese, but not all people who own and buy guns are fat knackers who waddle their way to a Walmart counter to buy guns. The second amendment was done for reasons back then which don't correspond with present thinking. This doesn't mean people, should not own guns for legitimate reasons. We have the best military in the world, and don't need a militia to help us against the Brits now of course. We do have hunters and target shooters who aren't the ones killing anyone. We also have people who want to protect themselves or their family because there are criminals who will always have access to guns as long as they exist.

If you read what I wrote, you will see I also said that some are bought by those on impulses, planning revenge against someone or a few in a school, and also killed others not related to their anger, mostly from being bullied, as much as 87% of cases. They were under aged, which is something I would definitely change immediately, along with a psychological mandatory for gun buyers. Some were bought by parents for their children, obviously not knowing their plans, perhaps out of touch with them? Again, I'm not making excuses for what's been happening. There are ways to curb the violence, but taking certain guns away will not stop shootings. Taking guns away from Americans is not possible because of the hunters, target shooters and other legitimate reasons to own one. If you take all guns away from legitimate owners, you will curb shootings of course, but there will still be guns around in criminals hands, and no defense besides the police, who aren't possible to be everywhere at all times. Stopping people from hunting will let deer for instance over populate, which will bring on disastrous results, seeing there are more deer now in the US than ever before, with nowhere near the room to hold them. I don't contradict myself. I just state things exactly how they are, and some don't have the knowledge to understand why guns are needed, and only look at the instances where people are shot without looking at the real problem that needs to be addressed. Keeping guns out of the hands of the mentally ill, who are the ones doing the killing. If no guns existed worldwide, there would be less shootings, but there will still be crime, including bombings, knifings, and those using anything that can kill. Then the unarmed police will have to take down these people, with many getting hurt or killed in the process. I wouldn't call owning guns a love affair. They are tools, like any other tool, and have uses, most of which are legal. Some people abuse anything they have, guns being no exception.

Most men would think they're wife is good enough. Also, seeing your wife agrees with you seeing other women, are you okay with her doing the same with other men? Good excuse for her it seems. Not to mention playing russian roulette with girls that do this with you, meaning they also do it with others, meaning there's now a good chance you caught something or will eventually, and give it to your wife, or vice versa. You might call me a prude, but I prefer to think of it as having morals, and loving my partner enough to be exclusive.

What you seem to be missing is that's its the illegal guns, gangs and suicides that are the main gun crimes everywhere. Mass shootings aren't being done by people who are hunters, target shooters like yourself and people wanting them for self defense. They are done by people who steal or take guns from someone else, and those who bought them on impulses, thinking they will be able to kill many because they are sick individuals that target innocents.