habuspasha

9 hours ago, pgrahmm said:

Sniff kissing is the Thai traditional way, along with the wai....

One thing I immediately noticed & enjoyed in Thailand versus other asian nations is they are respectful of personal space....

Part of an extension of their conservative culture....

I couldn't agree more.  This is what I want to understand better.  It is particularly opaque when the brash opposite is on display.  In fact the same person can move from the one to the other.

8 hours ago, Stocky said:

How old is she?

Maybe she doesn't want to lose her dentures.

30 something with her own perfect teeth and no bad breath or periodontal  disease.  Why is culture so difficult to accept?

19 hours ago, Pravda said:

There is no Thai or Asian culture regarding this.... That's BS. 

 

Just let people be. Some like kissing some don't. 

 

I do Japanese porn kissing, but can't drink water from the same bottle with a woman. Go figure

Let me get this right:  there is no Thai or Asian culture; just Japanese.

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Thai people are trained from birth not to be different.

But every foreign guy seems to think he's found one that is different.

Everyone is different in some ways and similar in some ways.  This thread has clearly established a particularly Thai kind of kissing (sniffing) and a possible Thai aversion to Western kissing.  That doesn't mean all Thais, but a cultural tradition that affects Thais more than say Europeans.  When my GF says she just doesn't like it, I would be stupid to overlook this cultural difference.  I would also lose an opportunity to know her better if I just rejected her because she wants something else.  Because I think most people are similar in wanting personal contact, intimacy, affection, even love--the reality, not just the play-acting (though that can be satisfying too).  The point is to find out how to get there.  

1 hour ago, katana said:

Traditionally Thais tend to HAWM or do the sniff kiss where they touch your cheek with their lips and give a little sniff rather than the Western kiss with tongues.

Although there are some that are open to the Western kiss - there are no hard and fast rules.

Thank you, Katana.  I didn't know this.  It is the kind of information I was looking for.  Not only because it makes me feel more secure, but because it is what she seems to want.  I would also like a more culturally sensitive understanding of foreplay, cuddling, hugging, and other sorts of physical intimacy short of sex.  Sex is not the problem.  It is straight forward: actually too straight forward by Western romantic-love standards.  And I would expect BGs to be well versed in romance imitation, but I want more from the GF who really cares for me.  Not enough to look elsewhere, as some of you advised, and I would marry her if I could.  I am trying to better understand her expectations of love more deeply than she can tell me in order to contextualize my own and lessen the difference between us.

15 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

IMO the majority of Thai women I was with, up to and including my GF, enjoyed foreplay and cuddling. It's only the frigid ones that don't, which should be an indication.

I'd dispute there is a cultural difference. While my GF was very shy initially, once she had her first climax she could not get enough of the full platter. Some of the Thai women I've been with previously screwed like rabbits.

Does your GF have orgasms, or is she faking? Sorry, your relationship does not sound normal to me, and the fact you are questioning it is another red flag.

After "When Harry Met Sally," who can say?  She says she does, and thanks me.  Said she didn't before.  But can wait another day or two.

Regarding trolling, I assume that means baiting members to say something they might not normally say?  Why would I do that?  I don’t know anyone here, and I’m only interested in finding out how unique my experience is.  Regarding sex, I’m satisfied.  It’s the extras I desire more of.  And I have no reason to believe that her fervor is waning or that she is only in it for the money.  I think this is specifically about kissing, foreplay and cuddling.  And I think it's a cultural difference.  Some of you seem to agree, no?

Thank you all for your suggestions, comments, wishes, and songs.  I think I will look for property down the royal coast, not in the mountains but at some compromise between elevation and proximity to the Gulf.  And I should probably rent.  At least until I am sufficiently inured.

 I have to say that I was struck by the strength and certainty of the climate deniers in the group.  Some denials rest on a confusion of scale.  The earth has been cooling for the last 5 billion years. We have been in a period of global warming since the end of the last ice age 15,000 years ago.  This may precede a future ice age in the next 10,000 years.  But despite these cycles, or inside this one, we are frying the planet by ourselves.  There is no question about the impact of carbon buildup since the industrial revolution.  The scientific consensus is virtually unanimous. It’s striking how deniers can question the motivation of scientists at non-profits and universities, but not those who are far better compensated by the fossil fuel industry.  I have already commented on the uncanny precision in the prophecies of such non-human caused futures as “solar cycles,“ which bristolboy nicely showed to be a restatement of the Judeo-Christian apocalypse.   I am concerned with how smoothly some posts passed from denial to acceptance to quietism.  Even some of the presumed experts like Bjorn Lomborg seem to say that the extreme scenarios are so frightening they couldn’t possibly happen; we can ignore them because there is nothing we could do about it.  This echos the more understandable attitude of members who say “I‘m alright Jack because I’m five meters up.”  The beach will come only so far. 

Decades ago, a psychologist coined the term “cognitive dissonance,” interestingly enough to describe the mental confusion that resulted from the failure of an expected future to arrive.  I feel it about the reverse.  Everything I read, understand, and know tells me that the oceans are rising, likely far beyond our expectations.  But I experience cognitive dissonance when I see rising coastal real estate prices or falling mortgage rates.  More to the point, I can’t shake my own confusion because I have always lived near an ocean and want to continue to do so.  It’s not head vs. heart, though.  It’s cognitive dissonance because I can’t believe things are really going to be as bad as I believe they will become.