NB1986

These Thais surprises me every day more, i mean isnt easier just to stop sell cigarettes? So first you buy the cigarettes and pay huge portion of tax and after you can light up and get a fine, perfect milking cow for thao government now when Tourism is scre... up. I am not a smoker, but really you cant say that virus is spreading with cigarette smoke first this Anutin embrasse himself with statement for foreigners and now this, i think Thai government should be leader of the world, we dont need WHO just follow Junta and you will be safe of Covid-19

Everyone is blaming Chinese for that, but in fact it was our countries which screwed up everything because as far as i saw in Europe, USA, Thailand all were claiming WE are ready for Epidemic, were they? They had two months for take drqsric decisions for stop spreading like make enough masks for themselve not selling to Chinese, buy adtional Respiratory Machines, as far as i can see they were screwing around how to get few hundred citizens out of Wuhan with Airplanes instead they should be preparing for Pandemic, same thinking our health system is good we can manage now. All in all first must come from cleaning up this governments second peoplenl around Europe should rise and destroy this Hitlers legacy called EU and get back own soverignities cause now this EU doesnt look like EU at all, Germans mind own asses, French, Italians are screwed anyway l, Austrians closing border so where is the benefit of big EU??? Only Germany have benefits because they stuck migrants into our countries they choose the best for them doctors, ingeneers but criminals, terrorists they leave to smaller countries to coope with them and people must rise after this Virus is finished EU must be abandoned and if Germany and Merkel wants immigrants they can all get them not only which one they like. UK made best decision and i m glad that they managed to do first and the rest of countries especially Italy i see as first will follow. I am disgusted by plans that made EU parliament for fight against Covid-19 as there were no plans even the countries putting billions for their chairs and asses in Brussels they didnt do anything to stop this. 

There are may factors why people get sick and why more males than females got sick in China and around the globe. The first is pollution as you can see the Virus isnt reported to be alot in rural areas but Madrid, Lombardy, Hubei and if you look Wuhan and Lombardy are one of the most polluted places ofcourse also Madrid. Second thing is more males than females got sick in China because more man is smoking in Asian countries than females, they found that smoking is producing some kind of receptors on which virus attaches easier than with non smokers, doctors advice to everybody to stop smoking and not to stay in polluted areas. I believe in Thailand is much more cases, its not about hunidity just look 0acked up BTS every day in the morning, packed up buses, the numbers are lying but definetely what i can see as big improvement against European countries is that all should wear masks, all of people sick and healthy it helps stop spreading the virus and in Europe noone is wearing a mask its not the way to fight against Virus, Health system cannot cure all but more than Hospitals we can do ourselves with our thinking, wear a mask if you have mild simptoms stay at home that is how China stopped spreading, but guess what? China was strong enough that could stop all factories and life for nearly 3 months in area that 60 million people works, i guess European and western countries decided for different approach. We will let this virus spread how many dies dies but we will not risk economy and people are just Collateral damage. After anyone who says Commies this Commies that think about again is it really Capitalism and democracy so mucj better? You see the results infront of your eyes. 

5 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

And so what nationalities do their corona cases have? All Dirty Farangs?

The thing is, numbers are rising and ofcourse he wanted to say that the Thais and Asians arent the ones who spread the Virus but foreigners from Europe, USA... Especially Europe

Isnt just coincidence that after Anutins statement for dirty farangs, cases started to rising? Hmm it doesnt add up... 

8 hours ago, myprivate said:

Conveniently forgetting that the virus started in China because of their liking for eating bats, cats and anything else that moves, slaughtering the poor things in unhygienic wet markets where they are likely to bite, preparing the "food" in a filthy environment.

But he's Chinese-Thai so this is a inconvenient truth.

Not only the last Virus but all of bigger outbreaks started in China, Spanish Flu, Asian Flu, Hongkong flu bla bla... H1N1, H1N5, SARS, Covid-19.... 

5 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

How did the German government immunise 70% of the people when there is no vaccine for this particular virus?

Actually Angela Merkel stated that probably 40-70% of German population will get infected with Covid-19 if it goes with that pace...so does it mean that they are deliberately hiding the numbers of infected because they pressume the survivors will become immune to that virus and that is how spread will end? 

Does anybody have info how many people were tested for Covid-19 in Thailand? Cause for example Croatia stands at 16 cases while tested only 350 people, while Slovenia with around 3000 tests had confirmed 82nd infection, so those news about how many infected if there are very small number of tested is not credible. 

Well i dont know about Thailand but as far as i heard the test kit with all included procedure in Italy is 120 euro, so in Thailand daily how many tourist from infected zones come? It could be also that they are lowering numbers because they dont want throw money away, the only problem is when there will be too many infected it will cost much more than simple test kit, the healthcare system, economy etc... 

I wonder how the Italy managed to jump on first place with 150 infected but for example in Thailand wayy more Chinese visits... Seems like coverup and out of nowhere there will be a 1000s of infected and after lets wait and see if they will saying Thailand have under control Corona Virus

2 Pittbulls or Dobermans inside the prooerty should solve a problem. 

I think the only person who should be kicked out is himself telling lies to people that this mask will protect them from Virus, i am 100% he in ested in some Company producing those masks and now he wants to force people to wear them, especially foreigners who sooner or later will be double priced for those masks in LOS. 

4 hours ago, EricTh said:

 

China is as huge as the whole of Europe and twice the population. 

 

If the epicenter is in London, it is not racist to ban all tourists from Europe?

 

A country is a political boundary and not ethnic boundary. 

 

FYI, China blocked only one province which is equivalent to one country in Europe in terms of land mass and population.

 

 

As far as i know the Virus escaped through Quarantine zone, if you look the map of China you will see that its spreaded in all provinces, so yes it seems to me logically to ban all Chinese, but if we stick to the topic MR. Prayut cannot accept loss, so he is trying to find another way to manipulate people of Thailand for they are being safe -medical certificates- well even if these few months would be hard for Thai economy until this settle down i really see big scale problem if Virus start spreading in Thailand than Thailand will not lose only Chinese tourists but ALL of them because nobody will want to go on holiday into contaminated country with deadly virus. 

19 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Exactly! Those social media videos have created a massive panic in China. There is no doubt the panic is multiplying far faster than the virus. It is very much a social media scare, and of course the media itself are complicit and fuelling it for rating purposes. Not to mention some posters on this message forum.

 

Surely you are aware that neither SARS nor MERS have continued to spread the way Influenza does? The verdict is that these variations of the flu, and that is what they are, mutations of the flu, have not spread like influenza because they have not adapted to spread among humans in the same rate that influenza does. 

 

Even if coronavirus spreads more akin to the flu, it appears to be far less deadly than MERS or SARS. If we have 100,000 cases and 100 dead that would make the coronavirus a hundred times LESS deadly than even SARS. To say nothing of MERS.

 

 

Ofcourse when WHO gave out report for H1N1 it was 20.000 later those numbers spiked to 203.000 final report was 580.000 dead and few millions infected who survived and had later respiratory problems, weak immune system and died from common flu or small infection. So these numbers right now are innacurate and when WHO states out an alarm for Pandemic it may be too late. After i will ask people who were panicking and those who listened governments and blindly believed. Yes SARS was more deadly FOR now and it lasted for 86 days while this kind of virus killed 106 people in 19 days WITH official numbers which i believe are a lot higher. 

8 minutes ago, Logosone said:

That is absolute and unadulterated horse manure.

 

231,000,000 million deaths by this September is so unbelievably ridiculous one almost has to go into spasms of laughter.

 

What NB1986 is referring to is R naught, the number that describes how many people a newly infected person is likely to pass a virus to.

 

He cites a value of R 3.8. What he does not say is that in reality there are many, many different estimates of the R naught of the coronavirus. Estimates range from the WHO's 1.4 to Jonathan Read's 4.0, however, these are just estimates based on UNKNOWN figures. Read for example admits he estimates the real number, he does not know the real number.

 

So R Naught is based on an unknown guesstimate.

 

NB1986 also does not tell you that the 3.8 figure would be EXACTLY THE SAME figure as the SARS virus had. Which in the end killed around 800 people.

 

Not 231,000,000 million, ROFLMAO.

 

What NB1986 also doesn't say is that neither SARS or MERS have been able to sustain human-to-human transmission the way influenza viruses can. That’s because the viruses haven’t fully adapted to infect humans, “and maybe they never will,”:

 

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/how-new-wuhan-coronavirus-stacks-up-against-sars-mers

The SARS-Cov dissapeared itself, and while incubation period was 2-7 days most people had less than 7 days SARS was easier to detect, also SARS during incubation period wasnt harmful this Nov-Cov is spreading when in Incubation period that is why NOBODY cannot confirm how many infected really are right now at this moment and even SARS-Cov dissapeared itself with lower incubation period they couldnt stop spreading of virus and already THAN it was shown that these procedures with toy for temperature measurement at airports was INEFECTIVE yet they still using it and they didnt learn nothing from last outbreak. 

6 hours ago, sandrew33 said:

That’s one of many estimates and to imply it’s absolute is mischievous. It also doesn’t really mean anything IF the symptoms for the vast majority are minor. 
 

More than 600,000 die annually globally from the flu. 800-900 people died from SARS. 
 

There is a tendency to overreach in these matters IMO 

Seasonal flu have R=1, this virus have R=3.8, secondly yes 600.000 people die YEARLY if we make calculations with this R3.8 until September 2020 231.000.000 will be dead more than 1.6 billion infected in LESS than a year this is the difference. And these are statements from Chinese government that currently is 106 dead and 4500 infected but we all know that this is not the real number and that the reproduction or R of the Virus is much higher than 3.8, secondly they dont have anything under control because incubation period is 1 to 14 days and the thermal scanners doesnt help it didnt help much even at SARS outbreak. 

Now gov. saying they are monitoring 20.000 Chinese tourists, 80% of them from Wuhan, however Officials didnt say how they are being monitored, interesting...maybe with TM30? 

Thailand cant afford to stop Chinese tourist to come, they put so much efforts into bring more Chinese into Thailand, while i am expecting sooner or later Western countries will ban all Chinese for coming until it clears, Thailand gov wil say hey dont worry if u re not welcomed sick there come and spend to us we dont care if half country gets wiped out from Virus just spend spend, and while Chinese government admitted that 5 million people went out from Wuhan and wider area before they managed to lock down the whole area Thais saying dont panic just spend i can think otherwise that this thing is much bigger and that it will hit Thai economy not only theirs but whole area in SE Asia. 

The most logical explanation for me is that this Virus deliberately or other way escaped from Wuhan Laboratory, is it possible that such coincidence can happen the seafood market where the outbreak occured is just 30kilometers away from that Laboratory...something doesnt add up here...now death toll stamds at 81 with hourly reports for new infected across the world. The Chinese healtchcare minister resigned, Chinese government is lying since the start of all this and i am nearly certain that this Virus somehow escaped from a laboratory, just a good example was Chernobyl catastrophe while official death toll from Soviet Union was 31 we all knew that they could prevent many things if they wouldnt hide, i just dont believe to communist regime esoecially Chinese. 

This guy ruined Thailand since he came to power...

Okay so lets assume soneone goes on 4 week Holiday to Thailand, he is Self Employed, like Trading Forex market, Commodities, or Website developer... Someone comes to Holiday and he decides to check about his work or fix something that is wrong... Thai Imm. come and Deports plus 50.000 THB fine for someone who came to holiday but his work is still so important that even in holidays need to be done. As everything in Thailand they should more specify who exactly is Illegal worker there... But as in 2019 even 2020 didnt came with any good news... As far as i saw while i was traveling across Europe people have opened their laptops and doing stock market trading in middle of Train stations, Mcdonalds i really dont see IMMIGRATION COME pack them up and deports them. They should make clear difference in this law between someone who have Company but dont register people who are working and between people who can manage their bussiness themselve even on their Laptop. But ofcourse, Visa crackdown is not in the mood anymore lets bring new stuff, basically all foreigners are criminals, either they overstay, or working illegaly taking jobs from Thai people, poor Thai people really... Everybody is so mean to them