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8 hours ago, webfact said:

"Thailand Travel for good health 2020" will be held from 9th to 13th December at Icon Siam, Bangkok. 

Please arrive 14 days beforehand to quarantine

Banning smoking at home? When will it ever end.

Next they will be banning smoking in the hospital.

Who can forget Anchalee Pratansub  ????

German

32 minutes ago, teacherclaire said:

I know 35 year old's who take Viagra.....................

That's probably so they don't roll out of bed at night 

6 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

So we cant have a border in Ireland and we cant have a border in the Irish sea.

Don't be so hasty, I hear there is a partially built wall coming up for sale  soon in the USA that might work. You have to wait till 20th January though.

54 minutes ago, scorecard said:

"Mass vaccinations will not start to happen till autumn 2021 and will take till mid 2022 to complete."

 

Several other reports indicate much earlier.

It's an unknown. Some reports suggest it could be earlier and some it could be later. This is the average view of the experts. 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/10/201001133219.htm

COVAX estimates that by the end of 2021, 2 billion doses will have been manufactured and the COVAX framework dictates that this will enough to cover the 20% of the Worlds population that is at risk. Given the fact that this could be accelerated  then we can assume autumn 2021 to have met this goal and then the self financing countries can move past the 20% of the Tier 1 to the 50% agreed in COVAX.

However as with all these things the pigs will put their snouts in the trough and I am assuming the richer countries will buy their way to larger stocks and bypass their global agreements.

As you know the US left COVAX and now you can see why.

Even with that you are nowhere near the number of doses to have reached herd immunity and majority of people in the more affluent countries will not have been vaccinated by the end of 2021.

There's political Spin and then there is the reality. This is the reality.

However, I hope that you are right and I am wrong.

15 hours ago, samtab said:

so excited to know what will happen when tourists will come back 

Me too. That's if we all live long enough to see it.

On 11/12/2020 at 9:22 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Whatever the truth about the staff being aggressive, it's entirely the hotel's right to charge corkage, IMO, and the guy obviously doesn't know much about Thailand, IMO, to post such reviews while still living in the country.

I agree, wait till you leave to make them. It's much safer.

18 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Thailand has lost its spot as the most popular cross-border destination for tourists from mainland China, according to a survey by HSBC Holdings Plc, as neighboring Japan and South Korea moved up the list.

 

The survey, conducted from Oct. 28 to Nov. 2

What idiot conducts a survey on flight bookings in the middle of a pandemic then predicts the future?

The missing details

"Of  the 5 flights that were booked during these 4 days, 1 was Chinese, 2 were Korean and the remaining 2 were Japanese.....

This shows that we can expect to see 20% of our tourism from China, with 40% each from Japan and Korea respectively.

Note: This could change if someone else books a flight. "

Divorcing in the US would not be an option. If she has never lived in or visited the USA then she has no rights there.

She can apply for the divorce in Thailand and then apply to get access to the assets if the court so orders but inheritance funds are not included.

In reality, there is no connection at all between the place of marriage and where a couple might divorce. What matters is that a spouse on separation has a sufficient connecting factor to the country they seek to divorce in under the laws of that country and at the time they wish to bring those proceedings. 

The fact their partner was born in the USA does not give them a strong enough connection. Almost all states (except Alaska and Washington) require you to be a resident before you may file your divorce papers there. The required length of time varies per state, but it's at least six months in most states. When you file your divorce papers, you must show proof that you have resided in that state for the required amount of time and that does not mean you can come as a tourist and do it.

She will not qualify to file for divorce in the USA so it's just Thai law you need to focus on.

However if she was to become a widow. Well that's a different matter. So my advice is don't give her the temptation. If you do decide to marry then make sure she knows your Will leaves her nothing. You never know.

3 hours ago, ThaiAl said:

I'm looking also for official list, where I see high or low risk contries.

Here's list of high risk countries and areas used by Germany. I assume the rest of the World would probably use something similar. If you're on the list no visa will be issued. Check with each countries embassy as some have blanket bans on all countries.

The following countries / regions are currently considered high risk areas:

Afghanistan (since June 15)
Egypt (since June 15)
Albania (since June 15)
Algeria (since June 15)
Andorra - the Principality of Andorra (since August 26th)
Angola (since June 15)
Equatorial Guinea (since June 15)
Argentina (since June 15)
Armenia (since June 15)
Azerbaijan (since June 15)
Ethiopia (since June 15)
Bahamas (since June 15)
Bahrain (since June 15)
Bangladesh (since June 15)
Belarus (since June 15)
Belgium (since September 30th)
Belize (since June 15)
Benin (since June 15)
Bhutan (since June 15)
Bolivia (since June 15)
Bosnia and Herzegovina (since June 15)
Botswana (since November 22)
Brazil (since June 15)
Bulgaria (since November 1st)
Burkina Faso (since June 15)
Burundi (since June 15)
Cabo Verde (since July 3rd)
Chile (since June 15)
Costa Rica (since June 15)
Côte d'Ivoire (since June 15)
Denmark - all of Denmark with the exception of the Faroe Islands and Greenland (since November 8th)
Dominican Republic (since June 15)
Djibouti (since June 15)
Ecuador (since June 15)
El Salvador (since June 15)
Eritrea (since June 15)
Estonia - the following regions are currently considered risk areas:

Ida-Viru (since November 8th)
Harju (since November 15)
Hiiu (since November 15th)
Rapla (since November 15)
Eswatini (since June 15)
Finland - the following region is currently considered a risk area:

Uusimaa (this also includes the city of Helsinki) (since November 22nd)
France - the following regions are currently considered as risk areas:

Total continental France (since October 17th)
Overseas Territory: French Guiana (since August 21)
Overseas Territory: Guadeloupe (since August 26th)
Overseas Territory: French Polynesia (since November 15)
Overseas Territory: Reunion Island (since September 16)
Overseas Territory: Martinique (since October 17th)
Overseas Territory: St. Martin (since August 26)
Gabon (since June 15)
Gambia (since June 15)
Georgia (since October 7th)
Ghana (since June 15)
Greece - the following regions are currently considered to be risk areas:

Western Macedonia (since November 1st)
Attica (since November 8th)
Central Macedonia (since November 8th)
East Macedonia and Thrace (since November 8th)
Epirus (since November 8th)
Thessaly (since November 8th)
North Aegean (since November 15)
Peloponnese (since November 15)
Central Greece (since November 22nd)
Guatemala (since June 15)
Guinea (since June 15)
Guinea-Bissau (since June 15)
Guyana (since June 15)
Haiti (since June 15)
Honduras (since June 15)
India (since June 15)
Indonesia (since June 15)
Iraq (since June 15)
Iran (since June 15)
Ireland (since October 24th)
Israel (since July 3)
Italy (since November 8th)
Jamaica (since June 15)
Yemen (since June 15)
Jordan (since October 7th)
Canada (since November 15)
Cameroon (since June 15)
Kazakhstan (since June 15)
Qatar (since June 15)
Kenya (since June 15)
Kyrgyzstan (since June 15)
Colombia (since June 15)
Comoros (since June 15)
Congo DR (since June 15)
Congo Rep (since June 15)
Korea, People's Republic (since June 15)
Kosovo (since June 15)
Croatia (since November 1st)
Kuwait (since June 15)
Lesotho (since June 15)
Latvia (since November 22)
Lebanon (since June 15)
Liberia (since June 15)
Libya (since June 15)
Liechtenstein (since October 24)
Lithuania (since November 22)
Luxembourg (July 14th - August 20th and since September 25th)
Madagascar (since June 15)
Malawi (since June 15)
Maldives (since July 17th)
Mali (since June 15)
Malta (since October 17th)
Morocco (since June 15)
Mauritania (since June 15)
Mexico (since June 15)
Monaco (since November 1st)
Mongolia (since June 15)
Montenegro (June 15-19 and since July 17)
Mozambique (since June 15)
Nepal (since June 15)
Nicaragua (since June 15)
Netherlands - the entire country (including the autonomous countries and the Caribbean parts of the Netherlands) (since October 17)
Niger (since June 15)
Nigeria (since June 15)
North Macedonia (since June 15)
Norway - the following provinces are currently considered risk areas:

Oslo (since November 8th)
Vestland (since November 15)
Viken (since November 15)
Oman (since June 15)
Austria - the entire country with the exception of the communities Jungholz and Mittelberg / Kleinwalsertal (since November 1st)
Pakistan (since June 15)
Palestinian Territories (since July 3)
Panama (since June 15)
Papua New Guinea (since June 17)
Paraguay (since June 15)
Peru (since June 15)
Philippines (since June 15)
Poland (since October 24th)
Portugal - the entire country with the exception of the autonomous regions of Azores and Madeira (since November 8th)
Republic of Moldova (since June 15)
Romania (since October 7th)
Russian Federation (since June 15)
Zambia (since June 15)
San Marino (since November 1st)
São Tomé and Príncipe (since June 16)
Saudi Arabia (since June 15)
Sweden (since November 15)
Switzerland (since October 24th)
Senegal (since June 15)
Serbia (since June 15)
Sierra Leone (since June 15)
Zimbabwe (since June 15)
Slovakia (since October 17th)
Slovenia (since November 1st
Somalia (since June 15)
Spain - the entire country of Spain (since September 2nd) with the exception of the Canary Islands (since October 24th)
South Africa (since June 15)
Sudan (since June 15)
South Sudan (since June 15)
Suriname (since June 15)
Syrian Arab Republic (since June 15)
Tajikistan (since June 15)
Tanzania (since June 15)
Czech Republic (since September 25)
Timor Leste (East Timor) (since June 17)
Togo (since June 15)
Trinidad Tobago (since June 15)
Chad (since June 15)
Tunisia (since October 7th)
Turkey (since June 15)
Turkmenistan (since June 17)
Ukraine (since June 15)
Hungary (since November 1st)
USA (since July 3)
Uzbekistan (since June 15)
Vatican City (since November 1st)
Venezuela (since June 15)
United Arab Emirates (since September 23)
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland - the entire United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, the Channel Island of Jersey (crown possession) (since November 15) and the overseas territory of Gibraltar (since October 24). Exceptions are the other overseas territories, as well as the Isle of Man and the Channel Island of Guernsey
Central African Republic (since June 15)
Cyprus (since November 1st)

I would point out that most countries under lockdown have hotels and guest houses closed so it is unlikely you would get a tourist visa issued as you would not legally have booked accommodation. 

Unfortunately it's not really a good time to plan a holiday. I'd give it 8-12 months if I were you. 

54 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

They can have the latest all singing and dancing Toys, but cannot organize a " Zoom " conference.

They should ask Jeffrey Toobin for advice. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54912610

42 minutes ago, Tchooptip said:

Same with my wife with a body temperature of 39 degree centigrade (70.2 F) she went to a hospital in Issan ... no test for COVID-19, I could not believe it! 

It's how you keep the figures low. Don't test anyone. 

Everyone know the figures are sham. The problem is there is no way of knowing the reality of the danger COVID presents to the people who live here. 

It is safe to assume there is a second wave underway in Thailand same as the rest of the world, but to what extent and how many are infected is impossible to judge if even people showing obvious symptoms are never tested. Also because the truth of the size of the first wave was hidden.

Venture out at your own risk and take responsibility for your own safety.

1 hour ago, Thomas Hannah said:

If 90% is accurate, and needs to be verified with more tests, then this is a very high percentage for a vaccine. Most flu vaccines are 50-60%. Noone is forcing you to take a vaccine - but I reckon it will be made a requirement to be able to enter Thailand, and probably many other countries. Or a test to should you have antibodies to the virus.

1 hour ago, Thomas Hannah said:

No intention to come back thailand.It was dead in the water before covid.

With you on that one mate!!

7 hours ago, ourmanflint said:

Hardly. It means that of the 10% that still caught Covid, mortality will be same as it is now, so less than 1% overall. Simply put, deaths will drop by 90%

You're right but we also need to factor in the concept of herd immunity.

If 90% cannot catch it or transmit it, your chances of catching it if you are in the 10% the vaccine doesn't work for, drop by 90%. If the R rate is 3 as it currently is in London say, it will become 0.3.

The math's indicate that the herd immunity the vaccine creates will kill of the transmission completely the same way lockdown is reducing your contact and making the R rate below 1.

Transmissions will then decrease in the same way it is increasing, exponentially, until it completely disappears.

The issue is will everyone in the World be immunized There will be pockets where the vaccine is not available or will be too expensive.

Or places where the Government claim they have no virus but in reality they are lying about their figures.

And the logistics of immunizing the World are huge. 

However we did it with Smallpox so I see now reason why we cannot irradiate this in the same way. But think years not months.

The next question is how to we deal with mutations as they will be the reason it resurges when it changes into a form the vaccine antibodies do not recognise. But we are better prepared and more ready this time to deal with this.

It's going to be a long and ongoing fight but the math's indicate it will be possible to eliminate it long as people stop eating bats or wearing mink coats.

12 minutes ago, Patjqm said:

I doubt that the 40mio visitors to Thailand are in this categorie

What 40 mil visitors? 

Have you been listening to TAT again..?

From what I remember, it was only 40 that arrived from China a few weeks ago..

Perhaps the remaining 39,999,960  are coming are coming on the 11.11 singles day promotion they are offering tomorrow. I'm sure they are rolling the airplanes out as we speak ready for the tidal wave of tourists in 24hrs time.

Anyway I would have thought the people in care homes would be queuing up to visit. 

After all, Thailand is Shangri La

No COVID here.... Safest place for them to be right now according to the Thai Government official figures..

4 hours ago, simola said:

Any vaccine ...  ..The elderly in care homes will be first, I can’t see many of them travelling to Thailand ... 

Come off it... That describes 90% of the Ferangs in Thailand...  

It's known globally as God's waiting room..

12 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Whatever the circumstances of non payment looks like a sick Brit is being held hostage for money not surprising here is it ????  

I've heard of worse

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-48907130