JimLuce

Duh, I’m sorry 212 degrees Fahrenheit scientifically accurately speaking lol. 

15 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Water doesn't boil at 200 degrees f. Ok, now you have hot water....that's great. Now what. I'll stick to boiling the electric jug.

Mate, you seem to have some doomsday issues. Calm down.

If you fly anywhere right now there’s a good chance of getting stuck somewhere for a long time so bad idea. Also, more than 20 years ago actually I graduated from the United States Army's Level C High Risk SERE School on Camp MacKall, NC so I have knowledge of these things. They taught us 200 degrees Fahrenheit in SERE school but who cares if you have to resort to burning wood try to use cedar and just wait till you see a rolling boil. It doesn’t have to be a fast boil because you’re not hiding in SERE they’re also teaching tactical awareness. So you could probably burn phone books or newspaper if you had to but that will take forever to burn hot enough to boil water. Wood is better for a rolling boil, cedar wood particularly. 
 

And yes above 200 degrees Fahrenheit kills most bacteria. A rolling boil. 

10 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Who is panicking and fleeing? 

I'm not going to Australia because of fear of the virus. We (wife and I) have other reasons. But to be truthful I will feel more comfortable in Oz until this a blows over with respect to access to medical services at the right price.

The chances of riots at any Thai airport are zero. They are pretty well empty.

That’s what people are suggesting. Bad idea. 

8 minutes ago, WhereIsMyRyeBread said:

if you're like me stuck in Bangkok, I'd substitute that with cash, gold, and a baseball bat. The rest is details.

There’s trees in parts of Bangkok to. I doubt things would ever get that bad though. 

7 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

everything in Thailand OK. Sure.

 

If you get stuck and everything goes to hell Keep this in mind just in case society does fall apart because I’ve had a lot of survival training 20 years ago and if we’re in total survival mode, boil water at 200 degrees Fahrenheit for at least 2 minutes and if there’s no power try to use cedar when selecting your wood burning for your rolling water boil because cedar burns hotter and gets water boiling at a roiling boil within two minutes if you’re being tested lol, and have to do it fast as in a school. But for boiling water use cedar if you can to start your fire. Use a metal pot if you don’t have a cover for your water pot tree bark makes a great cover because it will not burn. There is a crisis currently so everyone keep survival remedies in mind! So we can also keep order if things do go bad.

If you are concerned about the Corona virus and survival here’s something:

If you get stuck and everything goes to hell Keep this in mind just in case society does fall apart because I’ve had a lot of survival training 20 years ago and if we’re in total survival mode, boil water at 200 degrees Fahrenheit for at least 2 minutes and if there’s no power try to use cedar when selecting your wood burning for your rolling water boil because cedar burns hotter and gets water boiling at a roiling boil within two minutes if you’re being tested lol, and have to do it fast as in a school. But for boiling water use cedar if you can to start your fire. Use a metal pot if you don’t have a cover for your water pot tree bark makes a great cover because it will not burn. There is a crisis currently so everyone keep survival remedies in mind! So we can also keep order if things do go bad.

If you get stuck and everything goes to hell Keep this in mind just in case society does fall apart because I’ve had a lot of survival training 20 years ago and if we’re in total survival mode, boil water at 200 degrees Fahrenheit for at least 2 minutes and if there’s no power try to use cedar when selecting your wood burning for your rolling water boil because cedar burns hotter and gets water boiling at a roiling boil within two minutes if you’re being tested lol, and have to do it fast as in a school. But for boiling water use cedar if you can to start your fire. Use a metal pot if you don’t have a cover for your water pot tree bark makes a great cover because it will not burn. There is a crisis currently so everyone keep survival remedies in mind! So we can also keep order if things do go bad.

Keep this in mind just in case society does fall apart because I’ve had a lot of survival training 20 years ago and if we’re in total survival mode, boil water at 200 degrees Fahrenheit for at least 2 minutes and if there’s no power try to use cedar when selecting your wood burning for your rolling water boil because cedar burns hotter and gets water boiling at a roiling boil within two minutes if you’re being tested lol, and have to do it fast as in a school. But for boiling water use cedar if you can to start your fire. Use a metal pot if you don’t have a cover for your water pot tree bark makes a great cover because it will not burn. There is a crisis currently so everyone keep survival remedies in mind! So we can also keep order if things do go bad.

If you were gonna bail I think the time to do it was a few weeks ago now I hear Mo Chit bus station is overcrowded! So basically I think it’s pretty much too late to bail. But, you don’t really need to bail unless you were already planning on it. Unless you permanently live here oh yeah this situation sucks I’m sorry. 

I’m not Australian but I was talking to my Australian friend the other day and the subject of exchange rates came up I totally understand why that’s a sensitive subject. I’m from the US and our dollar is just starting to improve so I hope you get it you all could probably use it with the AUD doing how it is. Good luck and stay healthy. 

10 minutes ago, Spock said:

You haven't seen the US dollar do well in years! Australian dollars holders envy you people.Our dollar was worth more than yours 7 years ago and the exchange rate for baht reached 35 baht. Now you get about 19 bahy ir 57 cents. You have it easy.

I’m not rubbing it in man I’m sorry I really do hope things get better for Australian expats to. I’m just saying don’t panic and flee because that’s what leads to civil unrest is mass panic and hysteria. It’s important to be calm now. We don’t wanna start seeing riots at airports or something because that’s where we are heading. 

4 minutes ago, Spock said:

You haven't seen the US dollar do well in years! Australian dollars holders envy you people.Our dollar was worth more than yours 7 years ago and the exchange rate for baht reached 35 baht. Now you get about 19 bahy ir 57 cents. You have it easy.

I just checked it again yes! 33 baht now! I said do this well in ten years to be exact. Oh yeah and you know a friend was telling me about that the AUD, I’m really sorry it’s not getting better along with the GBP and USD. 

10 minutes ago, Olmate said:

What did they charge you and what mention of cancellation if any if I could ask?

You know if you fly right now you’re asking for trouble right? Unless you have to if so I’m really sorry. 

Unless you absolutely must fly now I’d wait a while if you possibly can wait. I know this sucks because I used to be a frequent flier myself 6 years ago before I retired. 

Hmm, uhm my plan, tough question let’s see here. I know we’re going to stay where we are and keep going on with our life. No reason not to lol. I hope it doesn’t drop again because of the virus. It started improving before the virus so probably not but governments stimulating their economies might have something to do with this progress it’s almost back up to 33 baht to the USD again I haven’t seen the USD doing this well in Thailand in ten years. So hell yeah I’m stayin in Thailand you’d have to be crazy to leave now. And leaving now would only cause even more craziness and unrest.
 

Just stay put, take reasonable precautions, and it’ll blow over eventually they always do I know this one is scarier than usual because of it’s incubation period but we’ll get through it so the answer is KEEP MOVING FORWARD! I love that quote it’s my favorite inspirational quote. From Rocky 6. 

1 hour ago, lopburi3 said:

Actually it is not that great according to many tests that have been conducted over the years.  Many machines are either contaminated externally or filters have been used well past their life.  With the current COVID-19 issues would be very careful and take pains to protect hands and bottles.

It comes from the ground and it’s actually better than the bottled water I’ve been buying here for years. I remember what you’re referring to and that was back in 2015 in Bangkok. The water up here is really great. Better tasting than Fiji Water. 

I thought maybe she was having a public nervous break down and she probably was but spitting at people knowing you’re sick not good. 

42 minutes ago, bankruatsteve said:

I don't get the connection between "well water" and a water cooler but that's what we do.  Ours doesn't have the heater as I prefer hot water from the kettle.  Most areas will have delivery of the jugs for no additional cost.

I’m talking about the well water vending machines that water is just as good as expensive Fiji Water. But I think the op lives in a rural area it sounds like. If you do have to manually purify water you gotta boil it at 200 degrees Fahrenheit for at least 2 minutes first. For example if you’re camping or something boil water by making your fire with cedar wood because cedar burns hotter and will allow a quick rolling boil within 2 minutes if you know what you’re doing. If he lives in the city or near he can just use the vending machines because that water is actually great. 

3 hours ago, khunPer said:

A reverse osmosis system makes clean water, if you take care of maintaining/cleaning/changing the filter, but it also takes minerals out of the water; a filter system with a UV-lamp also cleans the water effective and kills all bacteria (UV light also kills virus), however again, you need to clean and and change filters.

 

With installation cost price and ongoing filter prices in mind, buying drinking water in large containers might be a better option. Several grocery-stores sells large containers (cirka 15 liters) for about 15 baht (or less) only, and many supermarkets have 6 liter containers for around 30 baht.

 

A small filter easily cost 300 baht and up, and if you have a three-filter system, and need to change filters just once a year, it's easily a cost of 1,000 baht; however changing every six month is often recommended. 1,000 baht equals up to 1,000 liters – if bought in large containers – or almost 3 liters a day, if semi-annual filter-change it's more than 5 liters a day. Even in 6-liter containers from a supermarket you can have about 1 liter a day for the filter maintenance only.

 

I had a well – which we don't use anymore due to limestone, rust, and being too close to sea – and filtered the water with large sand and resign filters. For household boiling water an active carbon filter often can take any (bad) taste away, and the boiling will kill bacteria., so that could be a "boiling hot" water solution. A single small filter house is about 500-600 baht, and an active carbon-filter can cost from cirka 250 baht and up to around 400 baht. Expect to change carbon-filter at least once annually, better twice. You might end up with paying 1 baht – or more – per liter water, so the larger container option is still worth considering.

 

Thaivisa news-section had an article about the RO-filter machines you can bring your own container to, and fill up for a 10 baht coin. Around 90 percent of the tested machines had bad or none filter maintenance; just a reminder about that the running costs shall be included in the calculation, it's not only the price of the machine...
 

 

Oh yeah I remember reading that back in 2015, I don’t know about Bangkok but up here the well water taste just as good as the expensive Fiji Water. 

Oh that’s an easy question I just bought one of these earlier this month and I wish I’d bought one 5 years ago when we first started actually living here permanently. Great investment saves money, time, and work especially if you live in the city. This one only cost less than 5,000 baht and they had cheaper ones than this even. We used to buy tons of cases of bottled water all the time but no more. I probably would have bought one sooner but I was basically just doing what I’m used to doing. This is the first time in my life I’ve never needed a car so in the past we’d do a lot more grocery shopping and buy a lot of bottled water. But I saw how cheap these were in the mall last payday and I snatched it up quick and had it delivered the next day and it’s a great investment. I highly recommend it especially if you live close to a well water machine as we do. It only costs me 20 baht to fill up both water tanks a couple times a month and it’s just as good as Fiji Water! And it’s always cold or warm whatever you need. I really felt stupid for not buying one of these years ago.
 

If you have well water on your property than this is probably perfect for your needs. 

Ohhh, so she was sick and probably knew she was sick and still started taking it out on everyone else by spitting at everyone. Yeah ok then if that’s the case not much sympathy. I actually felt bad for her until I read this second article. 

58 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Pattaya is very quiet, has an eerie feeling about it, taxi guys waiting for their last fares. Just did an 8km walk, won't be long before the dogs become dangerous and we become food

When I think of quite streets because of the virus the very first sort of creepy guitar rift comes to mind from Metallica’s Death Magnetic album which is ironically about death and the apocalypse. When the first song comes on and you hear that slow creepy bass guitar rift that one. 

I’m glad they stopped and detained her but don’t be so quick to judge the lady she might’ve been having a nervous break down. People are scared and people are also scared of Chinese people because obviously it started in China as most viruses usually originate in Africa or China but usually when people start freaking out like that there’s a reason. I wouldn’t be surprised if people had been mistreating her because she’s Chinese out of fear and paranoia and then maybe she flipped out because there’s only so much people can take before it becomes publicly visible that a person is suffering. Sounds like she couldn’t take it anymore and she probably just had a public psychotic episode. And I don’t mean to sound insulting but I’ve noticed over the years that in Chinese culture they often don’t value the same type of good manners that most other Asian cultures value.
 

Above all please don’t panic there’s a lot of scary rumors circulating the internet about governments breaking down and government officials in the US testing positive and apparently a lot of that stuff is false so don’t believe everything you read on Social Media verify everything as much as possible we have to keep calm and prevent civil unrest. Things are bad but the world is and WILL KEEP MOVING FORWARD!!! 

15 minutes ago, DLock said:

 

Perhaps...but is it illegal?

 

However...I do enjoy those YouTube video of Pattaya late night walking street - with all the last call punters negotiating through beer goggles. I wonder how many fools have been busted by their wife or friends...especially the ladyboy lovers...

 

 

Well YouTube isn’t officially publishing it in the news. YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter is just the world we live in today. But when you’re a journalist publishing an article it’s still proper edict to black out the faces of pictures of people in places like bars. Journalists get sued all the time because of stuff like that. But I think this is more like a blog, right? Normally in Thailand they’re even more strict about stuff like this because of their very strict defamation laws.