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On 4/26/2020 at 9:44 PM, mauGR1 said:
Careful talking common sense, soon you'll be called trumpian, right wing and all sort of names.
Tell me about it. I can’t even point out the official statistics that show the USA has a lower per-capita death rate than some European countries without people accusing me of “defending Trump”.- 1
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On 4/28/2020 at 9:26 AM, murraynz said:
There will be big influxes of chinese and indians,but they are budget tourists.
I predict that there will be a big influx of rich Chinese tourists soon after things open up, but they won’t be spending money in the bars, they’ll be buying them, and knocking them down to build another Sihanoukville where Pattaya sits today.
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8 hours ago, dinsdale said:
As for immunity it is now being said that reinfection is a posibilty and apart from that any immunity is not for long. Don't hold your breath waiting for a vaccine either.
No, I guess not. If this virus is some kind of anomaly where catching it and recovering doesn’t build up an immunity, then a vaccine will be pretty pointless, won’t it? -
On 4/27/2020 at 8:11 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
Based on the U.S.'s horrible handling thus far of the CV pandemic with now 50,000 plus dead, the erratic, ill-informed Trump Administration and the hapless politics over science regulators at the CDC and FDA under Trump's watch who could have prevented a lot of this but utterly failed in their jobs, I'm just not feeling the trust right now.
What about the leaders of European countries where the deaths per-capita are far higher than in the USA? Did they drop the ball too? -
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5 hours ago, Thailand said:"President Donald Trump has said he "can't imagine why" US hotline calls about disinfectant have risen after he suggested injecting the substance to treat coronavirus."
"When asked whether he took responsibility at all for the increase in calls, Mr Trump replied: "No, I don't." "
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There was no suggestion of any kind in the quote you posted. He asked a question which could rightfully be viewed as a stupid one, but as many here have pointed out, and you have ignored, there was no suggestion to inject anything, and no mention of bleach. Anyone who interprets this quote as a suggestion to inject bleach into their body has zero right to insult Trump’s intelligence.
I am perfectly willing to admit that his question was poorly worded, and did a good job of making him look uninformed, but if Trump asked whether or not gasoline could be put into a diesel truck, would everyone go out and do it, and then blame him when their engine blows up?
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15 hours ago, connda said:Yippee. I like the quiet. Gotta admit is sure is peaceful. Let's keep all the restrictions in place until the end of the year!
It’s great to see so many expats enjoying the quiet streets, while Thais wait outside in the heat for their free bowl of rice each day.
It’s also interesting to note the stark difference in opinion concerning the lockdowns between those who need to go to work to make their money, and those who don’t. Any chance you’re a pensioner?
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1 hour ago, brucec64 said:That is quite an original spin on the usually boring "traffic accidents" comparison. Driving is a disease and accidents are rising exponentially, so its the same as the coronavirus! I will definitely remember that one if I can ever get out for a beer with friends again. Thanks for that!
You didn’t answer my question.Billions of people around the world either choose to drive, or do it out of necessity, despite knowing that there is a small risk of death every time they hit the road.
The lockdown has proven effective in reducing those deaths by a noticeable amount. Should we keep the lockdown forever, in an attempt to reduce these deaths further?
Lockdown or not, everyone must expose themselves to a small risk of infection every time they leave the house to get food, or do anything else. Right now that risk is reduced, to a point, with social distancing, isolation, closures, etc.
The question being discussed, is at what point will people decide that going to work and earning a living is worth the risk of catching a disease that has a very small chance of killing them?
I was never trying to make an apples to apples comparison between the death rates of driving and Coronavirus. I was making the point that for many people in Thailand, not having a job is more worrying than the possibility of catching a virus that has killed less people here than traffic accidents have in the same period of time.
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45 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:And you sound exactly like the type of fool that is the reason the virus has spread all over the place.
What a ridiculous thing to say. This virus was spreading in Thailand for at least a month and a half before anything was ordered to close down (first case reported Jan. 13/2020). By the time we realized what is was, it was already too late. There’s lots of anecdotal evidence on this forum, and others, that people were getting this virus months ago, and mostly brushing it off as a bad flu.
There is no conclusive evidence that lockdowns have had any effect, and plenty of scientists are arguing that they haven’t.- 3
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4 hours ago, brucec64 said:
One more time for the slower ones in the room. Road accidents do not spread exponentially. One accident does not spread to 2 then to 4, ... Not the same thing at all.
Bad analogy. Traffic accidents don’t spread exponentially, but the vast majority of people already have the disease (driving). A small percentage of those people will eventually die as a result.
The stats have already shown that the lockdown has saved more lives, through reduction of traffic fatalities, than the Coronvirus has killed. What is your argument against banning cars and motorcycles forever, based on that fact?- 1
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I’m going to have to agree with the many posters here who have theorized that the wai is responsible for slowing the spread of Corona virus in Thailand. Since this outbreak began, I have made a point of not shaking hands with any of the bar girls who I have sex with, and I haven’t been sick yet.
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34 minutes ago, possum1931 said:
I am amazed at the number of Thaivisa member who seem to have such a dependence on alcohol. Now, let the saddo emoticans commence. ????
To be fair, I know a lot of people, in Thailand and at home, who didn’t have nearly such a dependence on alcohol until they were forced to stay in their houses 90% of the time.- 1
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13 minutes ago, Skallywag said:
As an American I am proud of our alcoholic history. The roaring 20's were some of the most wild, free, fun, and sexually promiscuous times.
All during the prohibition of Alcohol? Hmmmmmm
Maybe Thailand will start opening speakeasies, producing bathtub gin, and we will all be dancing the Charleston and Jitterbug soon
You can bet on it, if lockdowns and alcohol bans continue for any length of time, and the Thais will do it for themselves, whether there are any tourists or not.
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There’s sure a lot of people here, and everywhere else, that are placing all of their bets on a vaccine being an effective cure. I’m not holding my breath.
We have vaccines for other Corona viruses already (the flu shot). They are about 60% effective for those who get them, and it’s a never-ending battle to update the vaccine every year, to keep up with new mutations of the virus. Even with that, tens, if not hundreds of thousands still die from the flu each year. That being said, we don’t live in a constant state of panic, as we know that it’s mostly the old, the sick, and those with already compromised immune systems who die. We have accepted this risk as part of the cost of building a functional civilization.
The vast majority feel rough for a week or two, but survive without needing medical attention, and go on with life. We all know this.Another thing to consider: If all of the speculation is true (which I don’t believe it is), that humans are being reinfected after recovering from Covid19, rather than building up immunity, then there’s not much reason to believe that a vaccine would be very effective anyway.
The “vaccine or nothing” approach is obviously the one that will be pushed by those in the business, as they stand to make unimaginable amounts of profit from their taxpayer funded cure. The WHO is in the business, as it is heavily lobbied by Big Pharma and other interests.
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On 4/14/2020 at 9:09 PM, Enoon said:
Forget Pattaya.
I'm looking forward to new naughty somewhere.
With the previous generation all out of business it'll be a level playing field.
A purpose built, multi resort area, accommodation/restaurants integrated, on a greenfield site, with no "family"/beach paradise pretensions,
A real, hardcore, City of Sensuality.
A "Hyper Nana".
Sounds like it will be a great place, until all of the family oriented tourists and righteous expats who don’t belong there insist on coming anyway, and then proceed to complain endlessly about what a seedy, debaucherous dump it is.- 2
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2 hours ago, Jingthing said:
Crazy behavior.
If this virus is as dangerous to normal, healthy people as we are led to believe, Pattaya bar girls should be dropping like flies. As far as I can tell, they aren’t.
Many of them are still working online, or on the streets, and then going back to the cramped rooms that they share with several other girls, who do the same thing every day.
I’ve asked all of the girls I know, whether they, or any of their friends have been sick, and all of them have said no. Should I believe them, or are they just lying to me, to avoid scaring a potential customer away?
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1 hour ago, RedPill said:
I don't have much opinion about that specifically ... just another politician, surrounded by experts giving advise.
But from my point of view, it has a lot to do with the 'way' he act's and forces his message across. Not so diplomatic, and his tweets while maybe sitting on the toilet ... just out of nowhere. Without any agreement with his team. They are all puppets just saying yes, else get fired.
Before I worked many years for a US multinational, you know that kind of business style in the presentation rooms.
Hey bob, good job ... harry has good numbers, harry is good. And over there, other division, DJ's numbers, RJ's numbers, DJT's, JT's numbers ... terrific.
And Mark, you know Mark, always does a good job. Tony, yes, I like Tony ... bla bla bla. I like myself too, I do the best job in the world.
No, I don't know any of them ... just speak up in clear language. You are the POTUS, not a power hungry CxO of a company.
When I saw him standing on the left side, while presenting his 'video clip' 2 days ago, I had a flashback.
And then he points out people, during a presentation ... hey bob ... that's correct, or not? Bob just nods his head, what else should he do in the midst of that power seeking chaos in a meeting room.
He had exactly that same 'unpleasant' grinse in his face as my ex-boss, during his presentations. God, I hated this show so much, that's why I left that monkey business and live free in Thailand now.
Anyways ... good luck and all the best to the US, from the bottom of my heart.
I agree with everything you say about Trump, he doesn’t carry himself well in the public eye, and his way of speaking isn’t diplomatic.
I have to wonder though, if he might act differently, had the media not turned the entire world against him, completely disregarded the positive things he has accomplished as president, and made such a huge show out of things that all past presidents have also done, such as detaining illegal immigrants at the border.
I often shake my head when I see Trump faced with an opportunity to make his opponents look stupid by explaining the facts in a calm, reasoned manner; only to see him to lash out aggressively, and give them that much more to criticize him for. He’s not that sharp, and is often his own worst enemy. That being said, most of the Americans that I know, who work, pay their taxes, and try to get ahead in life, have said that while they don’t necessarily like Trump as a person, their situation has improved since he has been president.
So many people nowadays seem to think that being a likable guy is the most important credential for running a country, and that the government’s job is to take care of people, rather than to create an environment where people can take care of themselves.- 2
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On 4/14/2020 at 11:51 AM, OneMoreFarang said:Luckily we don't have Trump in charge here.
Have a look at the news from the USA and you see what happens when things go wrong.
Trump, Trump, Trump...Everyone keeps going on about the high number of deaths in the USA, and acting as if it’s solely due to the president’s botched response, but they forget that it also has the third largest population in the world, behind China and India.
If, just for the sake of argument, you were to think of Germany, France, Italy, Spain, and the UK as one country, they would have a smaller population, significantly more cases, and about twice as many deaths as the United States, so far.
I don’t remember the last time I heard anyone ranting about what a <deleted>-poor job the European leaders have done, but I hear about Trump all day, everyday.
For the record, I’m neither American, nor a Trump supporter. Just doing my best to be objective and look past the propaganda. There’s obviously no way for me to prove it, but I’m confident that if Hillary were the president during this crisis, the media would be singing a much different tune.
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I was waiting for the official announcement from immigration last week, and was ready to pay an agent to do my extension if the announcement didn’t come through on time. Then it did.
my exemption stamp expired yesterday, and I’ve done nothing, as was advised by most posters here, as well as immigration themselves. At least that’s how I read into it.
Then yesterday, a guy who is staying in my hotel, tells me that he had just come back from immigration in Jomtien, and got a renewal for 1900 Baht. I told him that I thought we didn’t have to do anything, and would be granted automatic extensions until at least the 30th, with another extension most likely on the way if necessary.
He told me that isn’t the case, and that immigration officers gave him some runaround reason why.I suspect that this guy was just being paranoid, not keeping up on the latest information, and made himself an easy target when he walked through the doors at immigration, despite not having to do so. At the same time, I will be pretty unimpressed if I missed some technicality, and I am hit with an overstay fine when I leave the country.
I entered from Laos on March 16th, so as I understand things, I should do nothing, and will pay no overstay as long as I leave the country when it is possible to do so. -
43 minutes ago, Liverpoolfan said:
My heart bleeds.
They killed the golden goose!
Maybe now is a time to reflect on how badly they have treated their guests over the last 40 years.
They treat me just fine. If they didn’t, I wouldn’t keep coming back.
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3 hours ago, Liverpoolfan said:Great news!
maybe all the dregs will flee an never come back.
A chance to start a new in 18 months time.
Pattaya could become the new hua hin!
As long as the dregs of society stay away for good it will be just fine!
Pattaya has been an adult oriented destination for forty-plus years. I doubt that you were here before the early 70’s, enjoying a quiet time on the pristine beaches with your family, only to be interrupted by the gangs of roving sexpats who never left.
If you (and the rest who think like you) don’t like it here, then please take yourselves to one of the many other coastal cities in Thailand that offer a more family friendly environment (Hua Hin, maybe?). As is evident from the ever-increasing number of bars here, there are many of us who still like to have fun.The people who make their living in Pattaya don’t agree with you, and most of them will be forced to take less desirable jobs for lower pay if this mess keeps up. There could never be enough hotels, resorts, golf courses, shopping malls, or restaurants to employ all of the people who are losing their jobs in the nightlife industry right now, and even if there could, these people would never be able to make the same kind of money working in those kinds of places. That is why they CHOOSE to work in the bars.
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Florida medical examiners were releasing coronavirus death data. The state made them stop.
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Maybe this will balance out the numbers from New York, where they are counting “probable” deaths from Covid19, without a positive test.