Walker88

12 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

 

No one is being "removed".

 

trump is the republican nominee.

 

Right now it looks like he will win a second term, which he will serve out barring death.

 

If he loses, well then, he doesn't need to be "removed".

 

I think you are being silly and hysterical.

 

 

 

 

Cut him a little slack. He comes from a place where the sun set long ago, and where people are extra super special simply by being born. When such a low bar makes someone an object of adoration, can anyone expect anything less than hysterical from the ruled sycophants?

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

If lying bothers you so much, why do you support Trump? He lies more than anyone outside a lunatic asylum?

 

Why don't you call out his lies? Why bother with some random poster here when a presidential candidate is lying?

More proof---as if you needed any---that trumpers are willfully ignorant.

It's 2024. Most people know how to search. Most people, however, are not trumpers. trumpers only know what their messiah or Fox tells them. They lack the intellect to have an original, coherent thought.

If the troll reads this, he can find the indictment by following this LINK.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/04/24/arizona-fake-electors-indictment-read-the-document/73447956007/

I suspect trumpers will be challenged by the document, as it isn't a 3 or 4 word slogan, which is about the limit of what they can comprehend.

I suspect that you, like me, went through a lot of life kind of forgetting there was a left of the mean on the IQ Bell Curve. It took the rise of trump to remind us they're out there, godbless'em. Not everybody wins the Birth Lottery.

I know the guy is a grifter, and already went too far with his Golden Sneakers, autographed Bible and threads from his Georgia arrest jacket, but this might finally be too much:

1 hour ago, Roo Island said:

More misinformation from Faux News. You're drawn to it like moths to a flame

You have to understand that trumpers are losers. He appeals to them because he gives them an excuse for why they have been failures in life. He gives them “others” to blame, so like trump himself, they never have to accept personal responsibility. Weak people clamp on to stuff like that. If they didn't have the false hope trump gives them, they would have no hope at all.

In fact, there are three types of trumpers:

---greedy billionaires who want more tax cuts

---people too ignorant to understand rule of law or the founding principles of the US

---losers who live vicariously through trump

Ask a trumper if he even knows any trump policy, other than a stupid slogan or a wall that Mexico will pay for (sic). They don’t know his policies, because he has none other than playing king and grifting off his position. For a trumper, thinking they “own the libs” is good enough, and considering the miserable and banal existence most have led, I guess such a minor thrill is about as much as they can ever dream of getting.

With Biden, his policies are clear. For example:

---rebuild infrastructure (The bipartisan Infrastructure Bill is already improving roads, bridges airports, commo and internet)

---get chip-making back in the US (the Chips Act has already resulted in new plants being built)

---support Ukraine against the Russian invasion

---cut prescription drug costs (much already achieved)

---forgive student loans (this one I don’t agree with, but it is a clear policy)

Whether Biden deserves credit or not for the good things that have happened since he relieved the last guy, it’s tough to say. The fact is, however, UE has fallen, growth dwarfs what happened under trump, more jobs have been created than under any POTUS, and the murder rate has tumbled.

Biden has had to deal with rising interest rates both due to growth and because of the inflation caused by trump’s wild profligacy (new trump era debt of $8,400,000,000,000). Biden has to suffer the addition to the deficit caused by trump’s profligacy, as each 1% upward shift in the Yield Curve adds $84 billion per year to the deficit. As rates have had to be pushed up 300 pips or more across the Yield Curve to stem trump-generated inflation, that’s about $250 billion per year in new deficits.

Read through the piece twice. I came away thinking it's about as shaky as 1000cc's of silicon nom on a Vegas showgirl.

It's merely a feel good piece for those who think trump is their messiah and totally immune form any form of accountability.

The whole case is funny in one sense, as it is likely the one case trump is facing where he will suffer the most in terms of his fragile ego. I think he would be proud to be considered a dictator, a coup plotter, the instigator of the terrorist attack on the US Capitol, part of the fake elector scheme, or the guy who felt John Gotti-ish as he tried to scare GA SecState Raffensperger into finding him 11,780 votes. He would wear all of those with pride and even try to grift off of them with his goobers.

I think he might be slightly upset that he couldn't keep---and monetize---all the classified documents he stole.

The one case he could not delay until after the election, however, is the one that will shatter his fragile ego more than anything else, because in the trial there will be public talk of the extremely economical size and mushroom-like appearance of his junk. Of course I wouldn't put it past him even to try to grift off Stormy's upcoming testimony, as in "Help out your favorite President---me---by sending $5, $10, $25 so that I can have a penile extension operation...Let ME be your tip of the spear!"

Not so surprising that the clown trump, who had peaceful protesters violently removed from Lafayette Park just so he could go hold a Bible upside down for a photo op, would have done absolutely nothing when extremely violent protesters attacked the US Capitol at his urging, injured 140 police officers, and set up a gallows to hang trump's own Vice President.

42 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Why does Biden always have to talk like some uneducated trailer park trash?

 

Is it some kind of "salt of the earth" schtick he has going on?

 

He's supposed to be Presidential. 

 

Was he raised in some backwater or something? Oh, wait a minute...

 

I guess you like Trailer Trash trump because he wants to be like royalty, but royalty is not a US thing. We don't want to be a loser country with inbreds like yours.

It that photo one of your country's royal family?

The fake electors are such bozos they actually filmed the meeting where they signed fake certification letters, which they subsequently sent to Congress and the National Archives. They did the deed in Dec 2020.

One of the indicted members of trump's staff, who was involved in the fake production, is named Cristina Bobb. To give an example of 'you can't make this stuff up', Ms Bobb was just appointed chief of the Election Integrity Committee of the Republican National Committee.

trumpers...LOL

1 hour ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Thios was the same person who said in 2016 that Trump would start WW3?  Trump slowed or stopped most wars - and he had Noth Korea and Russia and China under control.  Biden is the one who has taken the world to the edge of WW3. Only fools believe the Democrats anymore - but the education system keeps pumping them out - more and more every year.  

Wow, have you bought the fantasy hype!

North Korea was far from under control; Kim Jong-un hoodwinked trump because Kim is infinitely more clever and knew trump's weak spot: fragile ego. Kim stroked trump, and because of that the DPRK went hog wild on its nuke program. Under previous Admins, both Dem and Repub, the Kims had to wade carefully and furtively, so as not to get hammered by the US. Under trump, the DPRK massively increased its U235 enrichment, miniaturized its nukes, greatly increased the range of its Hwasong ICBMs, so that some can now reach every point in the US, and went to supercomputer testing of its nukes, just as the US does. trump was the best thing ever for the DPRK's nuke program.

Russia was not in any way 'under control' by trump. That is laughable. putin spent the trump years gearing up for his Ukraine invasion. The reason putin didn't invade sooner wasn't due to any fear of trump (LOL), but rather because he didn't want to hurt trump's re-election chances. Had trump won term 2, putin would have invaded then, as trump's utility would be limited by the Two Term rule.

Just absolutely silly what is attributed to trump. trump wanted to nuke hurricanes. He wanted to attack Iran in 2020, hoping it would help him win re-election. After he lost, he wanted to nuke China in the hope he could declare a national emergency and stay in power, but Gen Milley stopped that (and trump was so upset he wanted to execute Gen Milley). This has been covered in many news reports, so I'm not in any way speaking out of school.

The entire planet owes a debt of gratitude to Gen Milley and Mike Esper.

If I am kind, I can attribute such posts to lack of knowledge, though in unguarded moments I see it as simple idiocy.

5 hours ago, stoner said:

 

what world do you live in ? this is beyond funny. 

 

so by that logic the people chanting death to america in michigan recently...they really want death to america then right ? 

I wonder what world you live in.  It must be Mr Roger's Neighborhood, albeit with Happy Weed.

The terrorists beat cops with flags. They sprayed cops with bear spray. They smashed windows, broke doors, sh!t on the floor and wiped their feces on the walls, poked one cops eye out, taser'd another....and erected gallows.

But in your smoke-filled dream world, they were just joking. Just typical tourists, eh?

You're lucky you've never seen crazed fanatics engage in wanton violence, or had to survive it.

Take another toke and pretend......

Who could have possibly known that appointing fake electors and trying to subvert a free and fair elections was against the law?

Goodness. Pretty soon the US might even outlaw Sedition and Insurrection, which are legitimate means of influence a post-election world in trumpistan.

16 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

 

If you don't understand that Trump constantly lies, then you may have dementia. If you do understand that Trump lies all the time, but you don't care, then there is something else going on with you.

 

And that's what this election is about: sane people vs deluded people.

True that^

trumper vs Reality:

trumper: He's a self-made man and a brilliant businessman

Reality: he inherited $412 million from daddy, received a massive allowance from age 3 until daddy died (of dementia, as did mom, which suggests donny also inherited 2 APOE4 genes), had daddy co-sign all bank loans until daddy died, and even had daddy buy $3.4 million in chips at one of donny's Atlantic City casinos, since donny needed the cash to service a NY loan personally collateralized...plus 6 bankruptcies (which ultimately fall on the US taxpayer) and dozens of failed/shuttered businesses. trump did make money, however, as a Game Show Host.

trumper: trump can declassify with his mind, or the FBI planted the documents, or trump had a right to take them all, or it's a witchhunt, or all of the above

Reality: trump stole highly classified docs and lied about returning them

trumper: donny is the quintessential Alpha Male

Reality: trump is a morbidly obese, whining crybaby candya$$, bone spurs coward whose primary skill is giving false hope to losers who cannot accept personal responsibility for their own failures in life

8 hours ago, G_Money said:

And now you’re scaring me.

 

Thank God you have no influence on how America is run. 
 

But by all means, continue your dreams.  It’s what keeps you going.

 

Actually I’m quite surprised you’re no longer with the CIA seeing how you are tree of knowledge on the forums intel matters.

 

Will you ever come clean and tell us of your termination?

You have an odd obsession.

You also seem to have a view of the agency that could not be farther from reality. And no, I'm not Edward Lee Howard (putin had him pushed down a flight of stairs in his Moscow home when Howard's utility ended), Aldrich Ames nor Jim Nicholson.

There is plenty of open source information out there, which people with the right amount of intellect and personal experience can parse and build a proper picture of things. I understand that it would present a challenge to typical trumpers, who only wait until talking points are provided by Media for Low-lifes, such as what Roger Ailes specifically created to capture those befuddled by media aimed at people above the mean in terms of intellect.  (it's in his leaked Business Plan for Fox)

All of the little old man cult members never answer any of the key questions that are at the core of why trump is under 91 felony indictments. All trumpers have are the words Fox or Newsmax gives them, such as "weaponization" or some fictitious ailment. Though I'm voiding into the wind and the fever swamps of trumpistan and the cult, I'll ask again:

---why would trump steal TS, SCI, SAP, SITK, Codeword, HCS and RD documents, keep them at his wedding planner facility where anyone choosing to pony up $200K can join (such as a case officer in the MSS), and then lie to the FBI about returning them? He cannot "declassify with his mind", and though you don't know the system, ACTUAL declassification requires a paper trail of sign-offs by agency Chiefs plus a final signature by the White House Counsel, none of which exist with what trump stole. Also, even as sitting POTUS, he would not have HCS (Human Clandestine Sources), as he would have no 'need to know'. Clearly trump would have had to specifically ask for them from one of the two lackeys he appointed as DNI (Grenell and Ratcliffe). As for RD, only the DoE can declassify RD docs, not even a POTUS.

---why did trump try to pressure GA SecState Raffensperger to "just find me...11,780 votes" if not to obviate the actual votes of GA citizens?

---Why did trump call his goobers to DC for the pro forma 6 January 2021 certification of the election 50 States had already completed, saying "It'll be WILD!", and why would he hold his Mall rally and tell them to "march to the Capitol" and "fight like hell". Is trump an idiot who could "never have imagined such violence', or was it malice aforethought?

---Why did trump do absolutely nothing for 187 minutes while his goobers were smashing the Capitol doors and windows, injuring 140 police officers, and chanting "Hang Mike Pence!", all of which was being broadcast around the world by numerous media? At a Hearing last week in Congress, the Chief of the DC National Guard said he informed the White House that his men were ready to deploy, but trump refused---and the President is the sole person with authority to deploy them. Why?

---Bonus: do you consider the terrorists who attacked the Capitol, erected gallows, and were intent on hanging the Vice President "hostages and political prisoners'? How about the Oath Keepers (sic) who had stashed an arsenal in a Motel 6 in Arlington, to be used when trump called them up? Hostages, too?

---Why did trump---according to grand jury testimony by trump's own former staffers---sign off on the illegal Fake Elector Scheme? (It will be adjudicated in Federal Court once trump's delay tactics run their course.)

I know Fox has not provided the cult with talking points that would answer these questions, so perhaps while you're puttering around Pattaya on that red Vespa, you can give it some thought and try to answer. It would be amusing.

Incidentally, it saddens me that people who took an oath to the Constitution forget what they swore to and have become cult members who put a person over country, democracy and rule of law, the founding principles of the nation. Apparently they never understood their oath, and in no way do they deserve the pension they live off. trumper or against trump, it is not a matter of opinion; it is solely about right and wrong and what the US is supposed to be vs what trump hopes to make it.

I become more certain of the evil inherent in trump's cult when nobody ever can answer the questions I posed above. trumpers are cultists and nothing less, and wouldn't know patriotism if Nathan Hale smacked them in the head.

The current FBI Director Wray, in an interview with NBC's Lester Holt, said that he would not open investigations on trump's critics and opponents, as trump claims he plans to do. Absent any evidence of an actual crime, Wray said the men and women of the FBI would not be ordered to do anything just because it was trump's desire.

Recall that trump appointed Wray after firing James Comey, so that's one more former trump official who has turned against trump and his dictates.

Remember during the transition, when trump tried to appoint Jeffrey Clarke (an EPA lawyer) as Acting AG, because Clarke would do trump's bidding and halt the election certification. The entire senior service at DoJ threatened to resign if Clarke took office. The same would happen at many agencies if trump appointed clowns as Chiefs.

trump would have to fire Wray and appoint some incompetent lackey, which would likely result in a mass exodus from the bureau, leaving domestic criminals and any sleeper cells of terrorists free to do whatever they want whenever they want. The US would experience terror attacks, hijackings, and John Gotti would probably rise from the grave.

The bureau and the agency are the two main entities who gather intel on any domestic (FBI) or foreign (agency) threat to the President or any elected official. A mass exodus of skilled and experienced employees would leave trump himself vulnerable.  trump would be putting his life in the hands of clowns like Bannon or Jared or Kash Patel, which is like having a 3rd grade school monitor trying to protect the Principal from an asteroid. Consider how much of an incompetent clown Devin Nunes has been running Truth Social, and now imagine the consequences of incompetence are life and death.

LOL.

58 minutes ago, riclag said:

It doesn’t much matter what the bias BBC says!

Im listening to the 

experts, 

Dershowitz: Awful Prosecution

Turley: Its a embarrassment ,It really brings home something that bothers a lot of Americans, including people don't particularly like Trump, that this is the weaponization of the criminal legal system. It's something we should all be able to condemn.

McCarthy :‘Hush money’ is not a crime, and Bragg has no case against Trump.

 Barr: Former AG Barr rips 'political' Trump hush money case, says 'real threat' to democracy is progressive left.

All claim its political persecution.

 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/april-22-trump-hush-money-trial-opening-statements

 

https://nypost.com/2024/04/22/opinion/hush-money-is-not-a-crime-and-bragg-has-no-case-against-trump/

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/former-ag-barr-rips-political-trump-hush-money-case-says-real-threat-democracy-progressive-left
 

The judge wouldn’t even be able to qualify as a juror in his own NY court room. His daughter raised millions.

 

https://nypost.com/2024/03/30/us-news/dem-clients-of-daughter-of-judge-in-trump-trial-raised-90m-off-case/

 

LOL "political persecution"

Perhaps if trump hadn't filed endless motions to stall his Georgia RICO case, his stolen documents case, and his obstruction/insurrection/fake elector case, the hush money trial would have been put on hold and the much more serious criminal charges would be being heard in court now.

I wonder what Epstein's regular Lolita Express passenger Dershowitz, along with Turley and Barr, would say about those. Trying to overthrow democracy and jeopardize national security are hardly trivial matters.

3 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Sure there is -- some girl who actual did have sex with Trump told them.

I guess I have a child's faith that the members of the jury are not idiots, and when they are read the transcript of trump's Access Hollywood tape (it is being entered as evidence), they will know trump is a regular sleazeball and the women are telling the truth.

McDougal had a 10 month affair (she claims) and was escorted regularly into trump's various hotels by "Keith", trump's former bodyguard. If need be, he can be called as a witness, which at worst would repeatedly place McDougal overnight in trump's hotel rooms. The jury is unlikely to think donny must have slept on the couch.

Still, the felony case is based on a payoff made to prevent Stormy from airing her claims, true or not, so the felony charges exist regardless of any affair. All that needs to be proven is that trump authorized the payoffs to keep any claim from surfacing before the election, and he signed off on the accounting fraud.

I thought the defense would choose to admit the affair but claim the payoff was done to protect Melania. If trump denies the affair---as his defense has now done---but the prosecution convinces the jury both affairs took place, then trump loses all credibility, and conviction becomes much more likely that everything was done to influence the election (the felony).

41 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

All very well, but the case depends on whether Trump actually had an affair with Daniels. If they can't prove he did, then it didn't happen and no need for any payoff, no need to disguise any reimbursements. Trump walks, the opposition loses, again.

Your logic, as well as your alternative facts, are wrong.

You probably don't want to know how Stormy and McDougal will "prove" they had an affair with small hands donny. A payment was made, as there is evidence of that, phone recordings, plus book entries and cancelled checks.

Let's take your argument that no affairs took place (unlikely, but for the sake of argument). trump still has to explain why he paid to squelch the story, thereby influencing the election, and then made fake entries in his company's books. Thus, the payment is actually more key than the affair, but if need be, the prosecution will prove the affair in ways trump will not like. There is no way Stormy or McDougal should know what trump's junk looks like, but they may be asked to describe it, and then the prosecution could call trump's 2nd wife Marla Maples and ask her to do the same. Only a current wife is free from testifying against her spouse.

As for "opposition loses, again", this is the first criminal court case, so zero losses so far. In the civil cases, trump is 0 for 3, as in guilty of bank and insurance fraud, guilty of sexually assaulting E Jean Carroll, and guilty of defaming E Jean Carroll.

In his various court filings to try to overturn the election, trump is 1-59, with the 1 a minor technical issue.

The evidential exhibits shown today in the trial are quite entertaining, and yet more proof that EVERYTHING trump says negatively about anyone is projection about his own actions.

Trump got the term “fake news” into the lexicon, yet he was a key participant in the fake stories the National Enquirer (NE) put out in 2016 to defame trump’s opponents, according to Tuesday testimony by Mr Pecker. I guess trump should say “Nobody knows more about fake news than me”.

In one NE cover introduced in court, there was a fake story about Dr Ben Carson supposedly leaving a sponge in the head of a surgery patient, and the cover included a fake photo of the supposed patient, looking as if the kid suffered from Bell's Palsy.

A fake story about Hillary claimed that she introduced the emails into don, jr's account about "I LOVE IT" when he was scheduled for a meeting with a Russian to get dirt on HRC. Fake.

Another is a Daily Double in terms of projection. It is a cover saying "Ted Cruz Shamed by Porn Star". Not only is it fake, but it’s why trump is currently on trial: fear of being shamed by a porn star. As Tevye might have sung...projection....PROJECTION!

Finally, on yesterday's date in history, trump stood at the White House podium and suggested to actual medical authority Dr Birx that Covid might be cured with UV lights inserted into the body and disinfectant injected into people. Looking at that video again is hilarious, as trump is dead serious and acting as if he is some sort of expert, while the actual expert is cringing as he speaks.

Are you better off than you were 4 years ago? No contest, especially if you avoided the disinfectant injection.