Berti

It turns out this is more of a burden than a blessing.

No more international tourism allowed for at least one more year.

Shocked to see that scientists tell their "opinion" all the time.

Also if they find the virus somewhere they do not consider if it is still infectious. Horror stories especially from HK and China, that the virus is still there after hours and 10s of meters away do not consider if you could still get infected. They feed the media with stories and get a candy for it. Gooood boooy!!!

2 minutes ago, Expat Tom said:

Maybe the reality of no tourists will sink in? Do you think that maybe the wonderfully intelligent Thai authorities might consider treating the long term expats here now a little better now and incentivizing us to spend more here? 

Every person capable of logical thinking would do so. But don't bet on it with this government.

48 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

 a little minor oppression

You are scary.

By the way I know China for 30 years traveling there and I know most don't care (at least they don't tell a foreigner). They are so used to oppression they even believe it is a superior system.

Maybe they will focus on expansion and easement of arrival with quarantine for EVERYONE.

But I don't expect anything from this government which is logical or follows common sense.

56 minutes ago, lks7689 said:

 In China At least their citizens listen and obey the rules when needed. Unlike a lot of "first world countries". 

Don't they have to? Social score system.

Any freedom loving person is horrified by this system. Nobody understands why the Chinese follow their oppressors so passionately under the guise of nationalism.

Another piece of:

"We think that millions want to overrun Thailand and we are going to be very very picky and make it very very difficult for you."

This is the perfect strategy to kill most of the tourism industry AND bring in the virus again.

Neither fish nor fowl.

On 7/4/2020 at 2:09 AM, Mama Noodle said:

An Ozzie friend of mine says the Sydney Consulate says he should be able to fly in on the 19th, and they will hopefully be granting him a fresh non-o. 
 

He has only the non-o and is permitted back?

Or is he married? Work permit?

1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

I ask because item #4 is out of date. Entries are no longer limited to emergencies. Reads to me like a low level clerk (which is who usually receives emails) sent out an old boilerplate response. Likely they have not yet developed a new one.

 

Would be worth calling their international dept or else sending another email in a week or two. Calling is always better.

I think they are still trying to figure out what the government wants. Not easy, even for the hospitals.

Hard to imagine that 30.000 people or as later published 1700 people will go through this just to be treated in Thailand.

This explains why most on the list are from middle east. They want to escape the situation there at all cost.

As I already wrote they want your money, but introduce many hurdles at the same time instead of facilitating it.

9 minutes ago, micmichd said:

It's not schizophrenia. They want the rich customers first and the cheap charlies later. 

 

If I would be rich and would want to get an expensive heart surgery in Thailand, I need a certificate that this surgery is not possible in my home country.

So they want my money, but they don't let me in.

Strange and schizo..

It's a fascinating case of schizophrenia.

They want money from foreigners, but at the same time introduce many hurdles to come in.

3 hours ago, Letseng said:

Acc to London embassy website you require a letter from a doctor in your country to say that the treatment can't be done in your home country and you need to get it done in TH. Ok if you come from Middle East.

This seems to be true according to this graphic.

"Certificate of medical institutional from leaving country"

2 hours ago, jackdd said:

Ten days ago they said 30,000 medical tourists had registered with them, now it's only 1,700?

 

1700, this is 0,00425 % of tourist arrivals 2019. What a rebound to normal levels. (sarcasm)

Why they even bother with it. Hard to understand.

Wow I did not know that hospitals in Thailand are close to bankrupt.

Sounds desperate.

22 hours ago, BritTim said:

There is much more involved in setting up quarantine facilities than unshuttering a hotel and calling it a quarantine facility. New Zealand (much more restrictive than Thailand about returnees) has been struggling to increase its quarantine facilities to safely expand its ability to receive arrivals from 300 to 400 per day. The effort involves hundreds of staff across the government and including the military.

 

I am not sure how determined the Thai authorities are about isolating arrivals from the community and from each other, but it is a significant organisational challenge to do properly.

It's not rocket science to put people in an empty airport into a car provided by the quarantine hotel bring them to the hotel and lock them into their room for two weeks. Then take two samples and send it to the lab.

A plastic surgery is your entry ticket to Thailand.

If you already have children you can't visit them, but if you don't have children but want children, you can get in?

This is like a Monty Python show.

37 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

No, but nor does it say whether the flight ban is lifted and that incoming flights can land.  It doesn't specifically refer to any type of entry, and there many people stranded across the border in Laos and other neighbouring countries, who meet the conditions referred to in the 6 groups (including my wife and son!).

 

Hopefully, things will be clarified further tomorrow.

 

 

 

 

We go from one confusing and tentatively situation to the next.

When will we be able to go, endless story.

7 minutes ago, ftpjtm said:

Are all persons from all of these groups required to do a 14 day quarantine at a government facility?

Yes, I think so.

But alternative quarantine which means a hotel.

The daily confusion.

They only now expand alternative state quarantine. I heard hotel owners are desperate because nobody can tell them how to become a quarantine hotel.