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Governments and health authorities are now much better prepared than in February March.

It is definitely possible to restart travel and tourism and contain the virus at the same time.

The only question remains if governments are clever enough to use the weapons which are available.

I am amazed that there are still a lot of people who believe that the borders can be closed and at the same time an economic recovery will take place.

It is obvious that Thailand is not able to balance health and economic interests.

2 hours ago, ukrules said:

Ahahaha, you think this is about a potential second wave?

 

This is about 'THE ORIGIN' of the virus.

You don't really know the Thai people. LOL

It was a joke, by the way.

2 hours ago, Blumpie said:

What they're doing is trying to look like they are doing something.  It's interesting to see Thais and foreigners alike buying into this.  But you cannot blame the government for at least attempting it.  The amount that people in this industry are hurting all over the world including Rome, Japan, Thailand are staggering.  And it is not coming back.  

It's top tourist season in Europe and where are the tourists?  They're at home.  

On 15.June borders will open within Europe except Sweden, UK and Spain.

Spain probably on 1. July.

No doubt the tourism industry will survive in Europe this summer. I'm not so sure about Thailand. There is not even a thought about a good containment strategy including tourism. Only total denial.

Wishful thinking.

The Thai government has no idea how businesses work. They still think you can decide day by day without any plan.

What a kindergarten.

20 minutes ago, aussienam said:

I am in a retirement visa. Stranded in Australia.  I was planning a medical procedure in hospital in Thailand this year anyway before all this COVID happened.  Wondering if I could get in to get the hospital treatment done (day surgery) and then stay based on my retirement visa so I can go back to my home there? Would I be quarantined to a hotel room first after the treatment for 14 days or before?  Or not at all? 

Maybe you are lucky and included in a travel bubble with Australia.

If not, I think 14 days quarantine before you get treated.

20 minutes ago, Traubert said:

Just as well that you aren't invited then hey?

 

Well ok, you can come with two weeks quarantine.

You mean to China or to Thailand?

I think also China is closed for foreigners.

Funny that China was horrified and disappointed as some countries closed their borders to China in January.

Europe was so stupid to let the Chinese come in until March. Stupid! The stupidest!

4 hours ago, BobbyL said:

Got to disagree with that.

 

There may never be either them. You really think countries will indefinitely close their borders to tourists for potentially years? No chance IMO. 

I also thought that a few weeks ago. But it seems that the government does not really care that Thailand goes back to poverty for quite a large number of people.

What will be different next winter? Nothing. All other countries will learn to contain the virus to low numbers. A couple of hundred infections per day are acceptable because you just can't kill the economy.

Test capacities are high, medication is improving, hospitals get better in treatment of serious cases.

If Thailand wants to avoid any new infection, they will have to deny reality and keep this country closed.

Expats and semi-expats who have to work abroad bring money to Thailand every month for years. Most love this country and miss their spouses and families.

It's sad to see that a hospital appointment is more important to the Thai government.

And how will they do a phase 3 trial without ongoing infections in Thailand? It will be even impossible in most European countries now.

They are dreamers.

12 minutes ago, Traubert said:

There isn't many flights and those there are, are over subscribed..

That's a circle, there are not many flights because borders are closed, because there are not many flights, because borders are closed.....

???

32 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

I believe the number is between 500-600 per day, How many Hotels want this type of business, How many hotels have submitted requests to handled this type of business and how many hotels have been inspected and approved to handle this type of business not all hotels would be suitable as it unlikely they meet the requirements

We don't know.

But I think a hotel could be fully booked with this type of business for several months. Bad?

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The world map showing week over week increases in confirmed CV cases by country paints a different picture -- the surge of new infections at present is occurring in South America and Africa, as highlighted by the red-type shadings on the map.

 

 

From Johns Hopkins:
 

 

https://myemail.constantcontact.com/COVID-19-Updates---May-27.html?soid=1107826135286&aid=1q5A9yFTkaA

 

The weekly growth rate is 100% when you have one person infected and one more person infects. This says nothing when there are small infection numbers.

7 minutes ago, British Bulldog said:

Yes, up here in  Laos, we only had 19 cases no deaths and currently all but 3 have recovered and gone home, the final 3 are expected to leave Hospital next week .... OK, we only have just over 7 Million people however, proportionally and by %, we did much better than most Countries and we 'had' a huge influx of Chinese coming and going due the huge amount of Chinese projects going in here (The railway line for one and more than several Hydro Power Projects). One can only assume that the action taken by our Government to close the borders quickly and prevent inter provincial travel, must have worked ! We are now free to travel anywhere except Internationally. We are all asking the same question up here ... why ? ... How come ? ... perhaps the reason lies in those Countries that didn't fully lock down e.g. USA, UK, and 'other' European Countries and alike ? It would be great to know the 'real' answer from 'real' experts !

Could be because of different culture.

Scientists are quite sure that super-spreaders or super-spreading events are the reason for strong spreading in Europe.

This can be one person who interacts with a lot of people, in a short time and comes always near to people when speaking, and has a very high virus load.

6 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Perhaps he was referring to other countries that have seen a rise in cases as restrictions ease? S Korea and Germany spring to mind.

What?? Maybe the headlines of the free newspapers are wrong. Better read some statistics by yourself.

3 hours ago, DirtyHarry55 said:

Someone please tell the Academic Sars-Covid-2 is here to stay better learn to live with it than close down the country.

Bet his salary is guaranteed wonder what his stance would be if they took away his chance to earn a living?

Soooo true.

9 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

At the moment, Thailand is only accepting returning Thais plus a few exceptions.

Daily, we read that some of these Thais have the virus or are suspected of having the virus. The number of returnees each day is in the 100's.

How bad would it be if Thailand was accepting 1,000's or 10,000's every day???

Safer to keep the borders closed for a few more months even though my business is suffering as we depend on tourists.

But then you would be forced to close the borders for 1 year, 2 years, several years? Nobody knows if and when a vaccine is available.

Just close the borders is not an intelligent solution to the problem.

24 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

some countries want to rush back to travel and tourism, complaining about 2 week quarantines and such (even with 10's of thousands dead) - do yourself a favor Thailand and keep the doors shut..

Easy to say this if you are not a tourism worker who is desperate to feed his children.

Countries rush back to tourism because they want to survive!

23 hours ago, xylophone said:

Also of course is the fact that despite these coronaviruses being known about for decades, there has not been one truly successful vaccine produced which can stop the infection – – doesn't give one a lot of hope!

There was no need for a vaccine.

SARS 1 disappeared.

All other corona viruses are just a cold, not dangerous at all.

11 minutes ago, Guderian said:

The Italian is asymptomatic, but he'd been working in Shanghai until returning to Phuket in March. In spite of being asymptomatic, he was found to be positive for C19 as he wanted to return to China on business and so went for a health check. The big question is, I guess, did he bring the virus with him from China in March, or did he pick it up from somebody in Phuket, and if so then from whom? And who else has that person possibly infected since then?

"...so he went for a health check."

This explains why it's mostly foreigners who are tested positive. Are foreigner tested more?

7 hours ago, rupert the bear said:

a vaccine -ummm a virus,its hard to make one,malaria herpes,shingles HIV AIDS?it will take a while.if possible at all.

You can't compare. There is already years of research about other Corona viruses.

And Corona viruses are really only a flu / a cold, the problem is it's much more dangerous for 5-10% of the people.