Berti

We just spoke about it:

https://www.thaienquirer.com/13367/hotels-and-hospitals-to-offer-an-alternative-to-state-quarantine/

They have now approved only 4 (!!!) hotels. Slow slow as usual.

12 minutes ago, CygnusX1 said:

And then another 14 days quarantine when they return to their home country? You’d have to be a pretty keen tourist!

Some people don't like being home too long.

LOL

But some countries require only a test for their citizens, then quarantine is no more required. Which makes sense when you arrive from countries with low cases.

6 minutes ago, Berti said:

Absolutely agree. Thailand had almost 40 million Tourists per year (I think business travelers not included). The capacities are huge.

It is hard to explain why the government does not facilitate "quarantine business". I think also tourists would go into a convenient hotel quarantine if they will stay 2-3 months.

 

Also hard to explain why this country can only handle 300 incoming Thais per day with so much experience and capacities in immigration and tourism.

One more point I would like to add:

Curious to see what would happen in case of a travel bubble with Korea or Cambodia with no quarantine for people who stayed in these countries before.

If people go into quarantine in Korea or maybe Cambodia then travel to Thailand. Would Korea accept this?

1 hour ago, new2here said:

What I’m somewhat dying to know is how much will be the change be for the forced quarantine be? as example, Korea is over $1K I recall for the 2-weeks.. part of me can easily see this has having the added “benefit” to local hotels as a means of income generation during the lockdown/no-tourist period.

Absolutely agree. Thailand had almost 40 million Tourists per year (I think business travelers not included). The capacities are huge.

It is hard to explain why the government does not facilitate "quarantine business". I think also tourists would go into a convenient hotel quarantine if they will stay 2-3 months.

Also hard to explain why this country can only handle 300 incoming Thais per day with so much experience and capacities in immigration and tourism.

On 5/20/2020 at 11:49 AM, BookShe said:

As a Samui resident and hotel owner one should say it's a "great idea" However, I would say <deleted> you TAT. The idea of bringing tourist to an island which can be sealed off, again and again if the virus shows up, it will create more losses and pain, than as it is right now. These morons should be playing with their own peanuts instead of desperately trying to get some money by risking a whole island. Taking China off the list of infected countries and allowing them to come here with direct flights is insane. Domestic tourism yes, international not so fast. So thank you, but NO thank you. 

A hotel owner does not want more tourists? Wow

1 hour ago, brucec64 said:

Why can't you stop them? The concept of a health passport has been thrown around. You maybe can't force someone to take a vaccine, but you sure don't have to let them into your country if they present an avoidable risk.

You guys underestimate herd-psychology. As soon as a vaccine is available mass media will lose interest in the corona theme.

Many people have the possibility to get the vaccine so they don't care if they meet someone not vaccinated. If someone dies on Corona he/she will be presented as an idiot because he refused to get vaccinated. Nobody cares if the vaccine is 100% effective as soon as the media loose interest.

All will be good.

Again an airline which resumes flights to BKK and HKG in July.

Just sayin'

And wondering.

https://www.airlive.net/finnair-to-resume-flights-to-40-destinations-from-july-1st/

Wow, so much negative energy in all the posts.

But I agree, a ridiculous campaign.

Even if Thailand would be able to change the image and attract only quality (high end?) tourists, the bahts made with tourism would drop significantly.

Didn't they aim 40 million tourists a short time ago because they need more money to raise the standard of living for the Thai people?

5 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

At the moment they are repatriating 300 Thai nationals each day, I read that all flights are fully booked for June 

I assume the number of 300 each day is due to limited availability of Goverement facilities for the 14 Day 14-day mandatory quarantine. Mu understanding is they initally tried 14 day self isolation but found that people lied about their previous travel and were going out meeting people during the 14 day self isolation period

Scenes from a Thai government Covid-19 quarantine facility: barracks living, but great Thai food

https://www.scmp.com/video/coronavirus/3080722/scenes-thai-government-covid-19-quarantine-facility-barracks-living-great

Not so bad. Reminds me of summer camps as a student. ????

Would be a new experience you never forget in a lifetime.

2 hours ago, JackThompson said:

Most definitely just my opinion.  Though I cannot fathom why they don't put those empty rooms to use, and let their countrymen come home tomorrow. 

As to the testing - have read the airlines are lining up to get the machines ASAP - which makes sense from their business-perspective.  Who wants to get on a plane with sick people?  The surest way to get sick, pre-covid, was always to take a plane-ride.

That should mostly solve the "arrivals with covid" concern fairly soon (vs the "wait for a vaccine" insanity), though a follow up test a few days later would be needed to ensure someone did not "just get it" before boarding the plane.

I could not agree more!!! Well said.

But I fear we will not see these more "Intelligent solutions" in Thailand soon.

28 minutes ago, reallyaffiliated said:

Guys I haven't seen my girlfriend since January. What do you guys think would be the earliest I would be able to travel to Bangkok or have her visit me in the Netherlands? I am more than willing to do 14 day quarantine. This situation really sucks. I've been doing amazing financially, but not I cannot even be with my loved one.

 

Have been checking the thaiger and the bangkok post 3 times a day for the last 2 months. 

 

Do you think it is going to be a possibility to travel to a country like South Korea in let's say July and then travel to Bangkok?

 

I read that they might open up to different asian countries in July.

 

Situation really sucks, hurts to read you guys with families not being able to visit your kids. Wishing everybody the best.

 

(EDIT) Also why would the board of tourism expect 16 million tourist this year? Is that purely based on Chinese wanting to visit after let's say July? Or do you guys think that they might open up for more countries that are doing well Corona infection wise.

It seems that we have to wait until 30. June at least.

Koreans also not allowed to enter until then.

Most people on this topic agree they would go into 14 days quarantine and pay for it. But no way right now (maybe unofficial ways).

There are rumors that the Thai government will first repatriate all citizens first and then make the next step with foreigners (or even worse, then start to think about the next step).

1 minute ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Yep, Europe is pretty F***** Up. 

That's why Thailand is leading the way, they don't want Thailand to end up like Europe. 

 

Well done Thailand, keep up the good work. 

You don't read what I write. I will not continue to answer you.

31 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

This is a forum , it would be a very strange forum if you can only post on a subject if it directly affects you

Sorry I became angry because some people reply without reading what they reply to.

13 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

In response to the public health threat associated with the spread of coronavirus, Austria has suspended the entry of third-country nationals (non-EU/EEA/CH citizens) entering Austria by air from outside the Schengen area.

Yes Exceptions for as well as for family members of Austrian (and EU/EEA/CH) citizens living in the same household, and holders of a D visa or residence permit issued by Austria.

https://www.austria.org/coronavirus

And restrictions are still in place for everyone else so not totally open 

Who said totally open in Austria?

Who said Thailand should totally open the borders?

I wonder why you are on this topic when you agree that Thailand should continue to block the borders for all foreigners. It seems you are not stuck outside Thailand.

22 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Yes every EU country has it own regulations but on 17th March the EU proposed a ban which was accepted by all of the EU member states

https://www.politico.eu/article/the-eu-european-union-coronavirus-covid19-travel-ban-explained/

If you care to list the countries where you feel this isn't the case please proceed

e.g. in Austria you can enter the country even if you are not a citizien if you have a residence permit or a visa D (up to 6 months stay). So no total block of foreigners outside EU.

24 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

There you go, not reading the full comment and replying.

 

I said 

Most countries who have safety for their citizens. 

 

Thailand is doing a great job protecting their people.

 

Well done Thailand. 

The main message in this thread is about ways foreigners can enter Thailand without risk for the Thai people.

I think it is not well done if you just block everyone.

Entry with 14 days quarantine would not harm anyone in Thailand.

10 minutes ago, Berti said:

Indonesia makes a first step.

Foreigners are now allowed to come in with a test and 14 day (self?)-quarantine.

 

"Foreigners are required to enter a mandatory 14-day quarantine at their own cost. They were previously banned from visiting the country, but that rule has now been eased."

https://www.ttrweekly.com/site/2020/05/indonesia-asks-for-health-certificates/

 

Thumbs up!

 

Does anyone have the private email address of the Thai PM ? We could send him the link. LOL !!

4 hours ago, JackThompson said:

On foreigners - test on arrival as testing-systems become available.  Allow as many in as can be tested, first allowing all Thais to come home tomorrow (put up in the empty hotels until tested).  Re-test after 7-days if tourists stay that long.

Is this your opinion or did you get this information from somewhere?

Indonesia makes a first step.

Foreigners are now allowed to come in with a test and 14 day (self?)-quarantine.

"Foreigners are required to enter a mandatory 14-day quarantine at their own cost. They were previously banned from visiting the country, but that rule has now been eased."

https://www.ttrweekly.com/site/2020/05/indonesia-asks-for-health-certificates/

Thumbs up!

29 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Makes perfect sense, see how these countries do in June, if they suddenly need to go in lockdown again because numbers are increasing then travel ban is likely to be extended, however if the numbers remain the same and these countries don't have to revert back to lockdown mode then it likely that International travel to Thailand will be open for certain countries, I don't think they will resume travel for all countries

I think it makes no sense to switch between total lockdown and open everything without rules.

I hope governments and people have enough logic and common sense to obey the rules which will prevent higher infection rates, even with tourism.

Test capacities are already very high, this will help. If health offices do a good job and people follow the rules it should work.