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Very clever.
So now........returning Thai's will be basically made to fly into Phuket.......
Then the TAT will claim that massive amounts of arrivals into Phuket................. but actually its just Thai's returning from business trips and doing their arrival into Phuket now as its easier for them than hotel quarantine in Bangkok.
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1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said:
It's all about how they word it, e.g. 2 in 100,000 people die from vaccination, 1,660 in 100,000 people stand the risk of getting Covid.
The above said, they don't say anything about how many people of those 1,660 in 100,000 who are at risk of getting Covid, make a full recovery, and there in lay the problem.
It's all about the Covid vaccines and of course, no one dies of these Covid vaccines, they keep telling us that, repeat, cleans and repeat, no one will take responsibility because if they dare suggest it is the vaccine, people won't take them, and they need people to take them so that they can keep everything under their control.
Lifetime immunity comes from T Cells.
The vaccine companies have got everyone focussed on antibodies.
Very simply, if your T Cells are good you wont make any or many antibodies. Antibodies are like a back up.......the final line of defence if your T cells are useless.
Only the people with poor immune systems dont have T cells capable of killing the virus and end up requiring antibodies to survive.
If you look at the bigger picture here............people who get Covid and recover quickly....will be immune of life. Their T cells are fine and the memory T cells will protect in future - regardless of variants.
But those with weak immune systems (because they are sick, or obese, or unift, or unhealthy) will need a once yearly vaccine now for Covid............ = money = profits.
Interestingly its been well proven for a long time that people with low Vitamin D levels have poor T cell response. See below link from 2010.
Vitamin D crucial to activating immune defenses -- ScienceDaily
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All the vaccines are causing some deaths.................
But of course...........AZ is a "not for profit" vaccine........so there is a lot more knives stabbing it in the back, people and companies selling vaccines for profit DO NOT want countries and governments buying AZ.
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..........The first reported death after vaccination in Hong Kong occurred on February 28. On March 28, within just one short month, 13 people in Hong Kong, aged 55 to 80, died after receiving the vaccination. Eleven of them were given the Sinovac shots, while the other two had received Pfizer/BioNTech............
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Will be, in my opinion, the Phuket Sandbox all over the worlds headlines soon.......with Covid cases rising in Phuket as Vaccinated virus carriers fly in to spread it.
Passengers on first fully vaccinated North American cruise test positive for COVID - Breaking911
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Before people talk about Chinese tourists.........
REMEMBER
Anyone entering China (local or foreigner) must do 21 days quarantine. No exemption.
So how many Chinese tourists are going to leave China knowing they have to do 21 days quarantine on return to China ?
Billions according to TAT ??? ????????????????????????
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Vaccinated tourists have to stay on Phuket island for at least 14 nights & undergo three swab tests, one on the day of arrival, then the sixth day and finally their twelfth day, before they can depart for other destinations in Thailand.
And if on any of those tests you test positive.........you will be forced to go to hospital and pay for 14 days lock up in the hospital before you are allowed to then leave..............
Sounds like fun...........how many billion people are coming in July ?????????? ????????????????????????????????????
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2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:The problem with Ivermectin is that clinical trials have not demonstrated any effectiveness in regards to Covid-19.
you can tell there’s a problem with a “cure” when it’s proponents can’t agree on its role in fighting Covid: is it a prophylactic? Is it a cure for the infected? What is the appropriate dosage? Is it only effective in combination with other drugs?
For my money, nothing beats Forsythia as a cure for Covid.
I think you will not see Clinical trials until after vaccine roll out is done as much as possible and the top vaccines are all approved for general use and no longer under EAU.
So many countries are now using Ivermectin for Covid with good results that its going to be harder and harder to keep sweeping it under the carpet.
The 2 people responsible for the discovery of Ivermectin received Nobel awards, its been given out in billions of doses over the past decades - and suddenly we should all be scared of it - because the WHO will not do clinical trials and then claims lack of clinical trials is the reason not to use it.
Why are they not doing clinical trials ? This being the same WHO who say its not a China virus, who said not to stop flights from China to stop the spread, who said dont wear masks.....then said yes do wear masks.............the same WHO who appears more a political machine now under the control of China as opposed to a real Health Organisation ??
People are not saying dont get a vaccine - they are saying get vaccinated but hey........this Ivermectin works dont you know from our real world experience.......why are you not doing clinical trials and getting it approved for Covid use ?
All very interesting.
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2 hours ago, edwinchester said:
Appears it's been dropped by India.
Actually, you can see the "misinformation" here. As Ivermectin was never on any list.........it cannot be dropped if it was never recommended in the first place.
Actually whats happened is the DGHS has simply said its not WHO approved so dont use it.
Which is a very different headline to it being "dropped".
MONEY MONEY MONEY.............dont let a simple cheap drug get in the way of all the Covid profits.
..............However, there seems to be a split in opinion about the new directives as the Indian Council for Medical Research, the country's leading health agency in the fight against the Covid-19 pandemic, has not yet approved the revised guidelines.....................
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It will stay like this for a long time in the 2000 to 3000 range in my view.
Vaccination drive will falter very quickly, at the moment its just the petrified people scared of the "Covid" rushing to get jabbed. Once they are done, as is being seen in the USA and other places now......the people wanting the jab is less and less and the rate of vaccination drops off fast.
Covid must run its course.
The more interesting thing going on now is the use of Ivermectin, proven in India, Argentina, now Indonesia is rolling out its use......globally being used in more and more countries.
The trouble with Ivermectin is that its old, the patent has expired, its cheap to make and billions of doses have been given out in the past decades so its safety record is good - but of course........it makes no profit..............
And of course.............Emergency Use authorisation (EUA) is only allowed if there is no other treatment, if suddenly the WHO said Ivermectin is ok to use and works, all vaccinations would have to stop as the EUA would be revoked.
Anyway, everyone should be aware that Ivermectin is being used by many more countries now, as said, Indonesia now rolling it out this month to supress outbreaks as it seems to be very effective.
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With the threat of being dragged away to a Covid facility for 14 days............there is probably 10,000 people a day being infected but just staying at home and self isolating.
With the fear driven into people the actual tested will always be far lower than real cases.
Only in open and free societies with no stigma will you see proper reporting.
Trouble is for Thailand.......rather than a big wave and then finish.......with people hiding their illness and not getting tested.......it will just be a very long protracted wave........2000 to 3000 every day for a long long time............. as it spreads and spreads.................
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Here is the article.
Close borders with Thailand and Vietnam to stop new Covid-19 variant, Labour says (msn.com)
28th June is the next UK review.
Fully expecting Thailand and Vietnam to move from Amber to RED LIST.
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Read the small print.......... tourists will be tested in Phuket and if they are positive....................
Well, they seem to be hiding what happens to "positive Covid" tourists.............poor suckers will wish they never travelled to Phuket I am sure.
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Labour party in the UK is pushing for Thailand and Vietnam to be added to the UK RED list on 28th June on the next review.
So I think you can forget about any "tourists" coming from the UK.
Also latest UK data shows that of Indian variant in the UK, 3% of those with the Covid Indian variant were classed as "fully vaccinated" being over 14 days since their 2nd jab.
This means, if it holds up.....that with every 1000 tourists coming into Phuket around 30 off them will likely be carrying Covid.
Do these "tourists" realise if they test positive in Phuket they will be forcibly made to stay in a hospital for 14 days at their cost........meaning their return flights will be cancelled and they will incur massive additional cost.
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And soon they will allow virus carrying vaccinated people into Phuket to spread the virus and variants.
It seems they still cannot understand that vaccinated people can catch, carry and spread the virus........reduced yes, but still can.
So imagine all the variants coming into Phuket and then spreading outwards.............
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What the whole tourism industry is not telling everyone around the world is that places are deserted, like ghost towns, places are shut down............hotels have laid off staff, service is bad, food is as cheap as possible.......... they are running most business in survival mode.........so the food and drink and service you will get will be bad.
Tourists in 2021 and 2022 are going to get poor quality food, poor quality service, overpriced on everything.............and in ghost towns with no atmosphere.
Thats why most people in 2021 are booking holidays at home.......in their own country and not going to waste money travelling half way around the world to have 2 weeks in a ghost town.
China is going to keep quarantine into 2022.........so there will be no Chinese coming as they will have to do quarantine on return to China. They want Chinese spending money in China.......not travelling outside.
The only way to get things swinging again is a full opening to everyone........until then.........Thailand and many places will remain deserted.
Vaccinate all you want..........you will not be getting lots of tourists, thats for sure until you open to everyone.
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There will be a catch......there always is.
1st night 1$..........next 6 nights 100$.........minimum 7 nights booking.
Must show international arrival flight boarding pass at check in.
Service charge of 100$ a night not included.
Room cleaning charge of 100$ a night not included.
There will be a catch, for sure.........thats my view.
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16 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:
You cannot claim that any drop in cases in May 2020 was due to herd immunity.
No....its just natural in Northern hemisphere when winter ends and people go out more and get more sunlight and UV rays..............virus levels fall off.
As they did in May 2020 so they did in May 2021.
The point is.........in May 2020 there was no vaccine but a big fall. In May 2021 there is a vaccine and a big fall.
What is the common factor 2020 and 2021.......what was the same in both years ?
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6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:
Nope. The initial infection waves in the US and the UK didn’t come close to generating herd immunity. The recent drop in new infections in the US and the UK is due to something called “vaccination “.
So the big fall in cases in May 2020 was due to a vaccine that did not exist at the time ?
The virus will mutate........just like flu has over decades.....
You cannot defeat Mother Nature, she will win in the end.......all that is happening now is delaying the inevitable.
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What you are seeing in Thailand, Japan, Korea...............is that unless you have a good old first wave like the UK and USA did........then you are going to keep suffering for a long time.
UK and USA are getting back to normal now...........all those countries so smug in 2020 will end up suffering continuous outbreaks in 2021 and 2022.
The old saying, he who laughs last, laughs longest.
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12 hours ago, Danderman123 said:
The article did not state that the airport workers were vaccinated.
It does but not clearly.
So this article below spells it out very clearly.
Vaccine passports................USELESS.............just allows Vaccinated spreaders of Covid to go around killing people as they want to avoid quarantine and checking.........
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Oh look.............now the scientists "dont want to study or report too much" on vaccinated people getting and spreading Covid.
Wonder why ? Not suit their agenda ?
This is the reason Vaccine Passports are complete and utter nonsense.
Vaccinate people can get the virus, can spread the virus and so a vaccine passport means NOTHING.
https://fortune.com/2021/05/10/can-you-get-covid-after-vaccine-cdc-breakthrough-cases-tracing/
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3 minutes ago, jojothai said:
Check out the article noted below that refers to situation in the Seychelles indicating that the Chinese vaccine Sinopharm does not stop the spread of Covid very well.
Although there seems to be a reduction in severity.
Its on many internet news channels. Search online for
"World’s most vaccinated nation sees COVID-19 resurgence, raising questions over Chinese vaccine"NONE of the vaccines stop the spread of Covid.
They reduce it a little bit.
This is why Vaccine Passports are total nonsense and any country saying vaccinated people do not need to quarantine are IDIOTS of the highest order.
Complete stupidity.......its just those who got the vaccine now trying to say they are special and should get the red carpet......when scientific evidence says they can get and spread the virus.
So vaccine passports are a complete and utter waste of time..................nonsense of the highest order.
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Just creating buckets of money that can be raided and siphoned off in the future into pockets my likely.............DISGUSTING !!
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Excise Dept attributes drop in revenue to cigarette smuggling
in Thailand News
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Well imagine that.
You tax something to death and suddenly tax revenues fall as you have created a "black market" in smuggled cigarettes. Wow....nobody could ever have imagined that.
Like in the UK. The government claims smoking has reduced greatly thanks to "official sales figures" while completely ignoring that probably 60% of cigarettes consumed in the UK are now smuggled.
Its as if politicians worldwide have links to organised crime and smuggling rings - raise the tax - look good - create black market - everyone associated gets rich from smuggled goods - government official tax revenues fall.........