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It is by no means a recent association. Donald Trumps father was arrested at a Klu Klux Klan rally, and not for throwing tomatoes at the great oompa- panjumdran-wizard or whatever his title was!

Rather by definition, a B list movie star isn't really celebrated...

It came into use, because, by Royal Naval tradition, a warship under way would fly the "White Ensign"; as soon as it moored or anchored the White Ensign would be lowered and the Union Flag raised on the "jack staff" on the bows of the ship. Hence "Union Jack"; @RuamRudy is correct, but in effect, both terms are now in common use. He is also correct that it is a great shame that the "Cross of Saint George" has become so tainted by association with Tommy Robinson (why is he so averse to being known by his real name of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, perhaps he is worried by connotations of a posh bloke manipulating the knuckle draggers?)and his gangs.

That's a very "commie" response. Besides, you're an European, and yoorop is very close to commieland!

The first post, whilst dramatic and establishing true rooting tooting "Trumpian" bona fides, somehow does not square with " years of practice in NY". A very strange combination of comments, "curioser and curioser" as Alice said!

Mar a Lago is such a fine old Anglo Saxon name don't you think? 🧐 In fact, whilst we are on the subject of Anglo Saxon names, - no I won't go there!

At last, a conspiracy theory so plausible that I can get on board with it!

Were those the same oft quoted but never identified legal scholars that Mr Trump spent so much time assuring us had stated that the case would come to nothing? I felt that perhaps we should know...

Rather an accurate precis...

Actually, things are looking quite tricky for team Trump - maybe it would be a good time to unleash the Kracken? Or have I rather lost track of things?

Leaving aside your somewhat all encompassing and frantic allegations of "fixing", since the crime was committed in metropolitan New York, surely then the trial should take place in metropolitan New York?

Entirely possible, he compares himself with Mother Theresa!

And all in a couple of minutes, according to Stormy...

Yes there was an element of Sarcasm, yet it will only take a couple of crazies, convinced of the cause and certain that if caught, they will be pardoned by the New Year. Certainly Trump will be looking for revenge!

Trump will be unable to resist taking revenge. From the Judge down, prosecutors, jurors, witnesses, probably even the sketch artist, (well some of his sketches weren't very flattering) they're all marked.

Well, how about a crime committed in New York, prosecuted by a New York District Attorney, found proven by a New York Jury, and tried before a New York Judge! Or do you think that the prosecution, jury and judge should all have been found from Alabama?

Having seen (as has everyone, including the Jury) the amount of discussion, meetings, arrangements and financial shenanigans which went into the whole business, describing it as a " bookkeeping error " is remarkably disingenuous! To overturn it on appeal will mean proving judicial misdirection or the false application of the law. The judges daughter being politically active is not grounds for appeal, nor is that the judge may have a Latin American background. The prosecution had to prove to the jury that the defendant had deliberately broken the law. They did so.

If the law states that a convicted felon cannot drive a school bus , nor receive security briefings, as Mr Trump is now a convicted felon, then he can neither drive a school bus nor receive security briefings. That is the law, no need to change it for Mr Trump. He is a convicted felon, to a very large extent, because he thought the law did not apply to him. The jury decided it did.

It's a "state conviction". I don't think a President can pardon those. If he can get it to the Supreme Court within 3 months then maybe he will get it overturned - but wouldn't he have to get it through the New York Appeals Court first?

A post which will strike chill into the heart of someone, sometimes, somewhere, perhaps ...

He used campaign money to cover it up. And falsified accounts to do so. That is the crime

It is my understanding that appeals can be based on: the judge misadvising the jury on a point of law, unfair summing up by the judge, further significant evidence emerging which utterly changes the facts of the case, unfair or unduly harsh sentencing and jury malpractice or corruption. You can't appeal a jury verdict per se, and the juries deliberations are not public. The judge was meticulous in accomodating Mr Trump, and tolerated his pathetically incompetent defence team. Mr Trump can of course mount an appeal, but he must show cause for one. I am Donald Trump, the Judge was biased, the Jury were all democrats and my defence team were pathetic are not grounds for appeal.

It certainly wasn't a jury of his peers, as far as I know there were no fat, sweaty, cheeseburger stuffing, adulterous, lying, cheating, narcissistic, grifting multiple bankrupts on the Jury bench. I know relatively little about the US legal system, but I doubt whether that is grounds, of itself, for appeal.

Well, at least one can say about Trump, he doesn't do cheap shags!

We must look on the bright side of this - I am an unremitting bright little Pollyanna! Mr Trump, until yesterday, stood indicted of, I believe, some 92 criminal charges. A formidable amount. That is no longer the case! He has been found guilty of 34 of them!