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I stand by my opinion that Begum is entitled to citizenship, and if there are moves to take it away, then they should follow due process, and should follow a conviction in a British court, under British Law, not a knee jerk reaction, within 24 hours of the matter becoming known, by the Home Secretary. That in my opinion is in line with our culture and values, inconvenient or distasteful as it may be. Of course I may be a soppy hand wringer, partially responsible for having led the UK to the appeased dhimmi status it is in now, groveling before the Islamist assault on our culture and values and feeling all virtuous, tolerant and liberal for it! I also served as a soldier, and fought against the Islamist assault, in the initial rounds of what turned into a long war... Did you, or has all your combat in defence of our culture and values been from behind a keyboard?

1) My final paragraph is exactly what happened in the first instance. 2) At the time that my daughter was born I was not married to my wife. My daughter was born several months before the rule change which would have given her citizenship. In theory one can apply for a special exemption to this ruling, allowing the Home Office to award citizenship, in practice they simply don't answer letters or Emails ( 5 over the last 3 years)!

I somehow doubt that was an option!

It has made her stateless. She did not obtain citizenship through fraud. She could not claim citizenship elsewhere. On the last point, the decision to revoke her citizenship was taken so quickly ( within 24 hours of her being found to be alive in the camp) that it is inconceivable that there was any consultation with Bangladesh. Why should Bangladesh pick up the pieces of the UK's mess?

It is not a question of being Bangladeshi by descent, and therefore (possibly, I don't know Bangladeshi law) entitled to Bangladeshi citizenship. She held British citizenship by virtue of being born in Britain. After all, I have one Irish grandparent, technically I am entitled to apply for Irish Citizenship. That does not mean that the UK can decide to strip me of my citizenship. Conversely my daughter, born in Thailand but of "British descent", will not be granted British citizenship. She held British citizenship. The then Home Secretary, in a knee jerk reaction, took that away ignoring the consequences - which were that it was illegal. The courts have for reasons unknown (but I suspect heavily influenced by the tabloid press) allowed that decision to stand. If the British government believes that she is to be punished it should be by a British court, under a British law. They shy away from that because it is by no means clear, either under which laws or with what evidence. In fact what has happened is that an administrative fiat by the Home Secretary has denied that, and replaced the due legal process.

She was born in the UK. Therefore she was entitled, by birth, to British citizenship. Her parents came to the UK from Bangladesh. The then Home Secretary, Sajid Javid, revoked her British Citizenship within 24 hours of her being found alive in a Syrian refugee camp. He did so on the basis that she also had Bangladeshi citizenship. Bangladesh however denied that she was a Bangladeshi citizen, and they should know! The UK could not remove that citizenship, but they did, which leaves her stateless. The UK should not have removed her citizenship, she is British by birth. I have already explained that I am no particular fan of her actions, I have already explained why, and how I think she should be treated. The basic fact remains that it was unlawful to remove her citizenship.

I think the expression is "sow their wild oats"? I'm not so sure producing babies was entirely her choice!

In what way - I thought I made it quite clear. Or are you having a "nudge nudge, wink wink, know what I mean dirty snigger moment?

I have limited sympathy for Begum, what she did was frankly stupid. She was only a teenager, and long experience of teenage girls ( as a father and teacher before anyone gets too frothy mouthed) leads me to be aware that at times they make the stupidest decisions for the flimsiest and silliest (sometimes stupidest) of reasons. I think this was one such case. She has lost three babies I believe, and that in itself is punishment enough, if punishment be required. Revocation of her citizenship was a political decision, driven by a desire to appease the tabloid press. It should be reinstated. She can then return to the UK, and rebuild her life. If she acts to jeopardise national security then there are ample laws under which to prosecute her. Leaving her to rot, stateless and destitute in a refugee camp will solve nothing, not serve to establish an effective precedent in case law. I have to say that I find it difficult and depressing to find myself in agreement with Gareth Pierce "et al" but there we are. One final point, a philosophical one perhaps, and one which I am sure many will scoff at: she joined, and was later subsumed into ( perhaps against her will) a society which seeks to replace our civilisation, based on Judeo- Christian values which include mercy, with one based on barbaric savagery and intolerance.What better way to emphasize the superiority of our society than to show her mercy.

Absolutely she should come back, then whilst on bail awaiting acquittal on appeal she could be required to live in the same condo building as @OneMoreFarang. When they meet in the lift she could give him that smouldering smile which was so devastating on President Obama! Should keep him frothing at the mouth for weeks!

Putin doesn't like Biden because he is concerned that a Democrat administration, with control of the House of Representatives and Senate may put in place a coherent foreign policy which will stand up to Russia. The one thing a Trump administration will not result in is a coherent foreign policy - or any coherent policies for that matter.

Glad to see that your high regard for the Thai "man in the street" extends beyond politics!

Exerting "influence" no doubt. ThB 13 millions worth in fact.

Why not separate " homelands" based upon ethnicity and immigration status? I believe that something similar was tried in a country in the Southern hemisphere relatively recently. Perhaps somebody might remind me how that worked out...

Well I am sorry that you feel that I was disagreeing. Whilst it is true that I rarely agree with @thaibeachlovers, on this occasion I was merely commenting on the photograph, not disagreeing with his point on hygiene protocols for nurses.

Never said it wasn't...

He is a silly billy isn't he! OTOP was a relatively simple scheme which helped with production and sale of simple products, which didn't require large scale infrastructure or machinery. It operated at a local level, and produced benefits at a local level. Anutin seems perhaps to be making a play to incorporate it into business empires, perhaps his? Money to be made!

I reckon it is a posed photo of a model wearing a white tunic and writing something on a clipboard...

Surachate Hakparn made a very determined bid for the top job. At one stage it rather looked as if he might succeed! However the lines of succession for that job are thrashed out amongst a very small number of potential successors, and their various power brokers during the years leading up to the annual appointment. He pushed himself into that line of succession, unwanted and uninvited. Out of the window he goes! His corruption or lack of it frankly is irrelevant.

Whoah, terrible news, is there a fornication ban as well? I mean with no booze, a fornication ban, how am I to pass the day? Model Railway may get some attention l suppose! Or have I misunderstood something? Would some kind soul tell me which way the plot went?

They were being extremely silly.

Why on earth would anyone want to do that?😀😀

The F5s are ancient, over 35 years old. The F16s are also, in some cases, elderly, although some were acquired in the early 2000s. I suspect that the new aircraft if they materialise will be used to replace the older F16s. Your list gives a total of 94 aircraft, of course we don't know how many are currently flyable, or could be made flyable!

The way ahead, I tell you. Of course it is all powered by an app!

It's legal advice? If he is involved you'd better be prepared to pay up front 😉!