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  1. 4 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

    “Johnson is … the most accomplished liar in public life – perhaps the best liar ever to serve as prime minister”.

    “He has mastered the use of error, omission, exaggeration, diminution, equivocation and flat denial. He has perfected casuistry, circumlocution, false equivalence and false analogy. He is equally adept at the ironic jest, the fib and the grand lie; the weasel word and the half-truth; the hyperbolic lie, the obvious lie, and the <deleted> lie – which may inadvertently be true.”

     

     

    ....and that from a prominent Tory MP.

     

    CV

     

    a British diplomat, author, explorer, academic, and politician. Since August 2020, he has been a senior fellow at Yale University's Jackson Institute for Global Affairs where he teaches politics and international relations.[1] He served as the UK's Secretary of State for International Development, Minister of State for International Development, Minister of State at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, Minister of State for Prisons, Minister for the Environment and Chairman of the Defence Select Committee

     

       That was said by Rory Stewart .

    Both Boris Johnson and Rory Stewart contested the Conservative party leadership .

    Boris came first , Steward came second .

    Stewart was kicked out from the Conservative party for his stance on Brexit .

    You can understand Steward having a grudge against Boris 

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  2. 5 minutes ago, sandyf said:

    Quite, the UK has left so that is over, although some keep referring to 2 choices.

    The current talks are about how things will move on, and as there was no detailed paper on how that would be, there will be continual references to what was said by the leave campaign. Anything said by the remain campaign is now redundant, the UK has left and how that appears in the future is now the focus.

    Will it be as described during the referendum or not? 

     

      The Referendum was solely about either staying in the E.U or leaving .

    We voted leave, we left the E.U .

    Time to accept that and move on 

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  3. 9 hours ago, oldhippy said:

    OK I will answer your question.

     

    Europe should be united against tax heavens, countries that use slave labour, countries that allow pollution, counties that manipulate currencies, and so on.

    And who knows? A united Europe could be a step to a united world, without racism and nationalism - as envisaged by a UK 18th century philosopher, William Godwin.

     

      Europe has been united for many years now , beginning 70 odd years ago .

    Just because the UK left the EU , that doesnt now mean the UK will favour tax havens , use slave labour , pollute the environment more  , manipulate currency .

       The UK ISNT going to turn into a Rogue nation where we disregards rules and laws

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  4. 10 hours ago, NeoDinosaw said:

    Please stop banging on about the 14 million voters.  They are only 37.44 of the electorate.  Their majority was less than 4% of those who voted.

    In any normal organisation, to change the rules and regulation so drastically would demand a majority of over 66 %

    The UK sticks to the slavishly first-past-the-post  system which is why it is always in a mess.  PR is desperately needed.

     

      Reasonable idea , and I agree .

    If theres any other referendum in the future about the UK re joining the E.U . For rejoin/Remain to win, they would have to get 66 % of the vote to rejoin the E.U . 

       Yes, that sounds fair enough 

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  5. 2 hours ago, david555 said:

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1372243/Boris-Johnson-resign-prime-minister-Brexit-no-deal-EU-Sir-Roger-Gayle-twitter


    Tory civil war: Boris Johnson told to RESIGN if he fails to reach trade agreement with EU
    A TORY MP has demanded Boris Johnson resign as Prime Minister if he fails to reach a Brexit trade deal with the EU before the end of the year.


    By DAN FALVEY, POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT
    PUBLISHED: 10:08, Mon, Dec 14, 2020 | UPDATED: 10:08, Mon, Dec 14, 2020


    Sir Roger Gale, North Thanet MP, has broken ranks with his Party to call on Mr Johnson to stand down if he cannot deliver on a deal.

     

    The veteran MP wrote on Twitter: "If Mr Johnson fails to reach an acceptable trade agreement with the EU the Prime Minister will also have failed the people of the United Kingdom.

     

    "As a lifelong member of the Conservative Party, I believe that Mr Johnson's position as Prime Minister would be untenable.

     

      Worth pointing out the Sir Roger Gale is a Remainer and doesnt want to leave the E.U. 

     

    Gale was opposed to Brexit prior to the 2016 EU membership referendum.[10]

     

    Roger Gale - Wikipedia

     

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  6. 3 hours ago, sandyf said:

    Tory claims that Boris Johnson's "oven-ready deal" only referred to the Withdrawal Agreement have been disproven by the re-emergence of a video from the last general election.

    https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/westminster-news/boris-johnson-oven-ready-brexit-deal-6631776

     

    ..............Apart from that isnt the speech where he claimed he had an "oven ready deal" , he made the oven ready deal speech the previous week and in that speech , he was talking about leaving the E.U 

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