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9 hours ago, sirineou said:

And it still could. 

The operative word here is "early" . did you stop to consider that if your friends wad not eaten as healthy as they did the could had died many years before they did? 

same applies to you, chance gave you a longer life. don't cut it short  with irresponsible behaviour. 

I think my reaction to my friends eating habits and my acidic reply was in some part due to their constant and never ending ‘’ you will end up in an early grave ‘’ comments to me . I’m not quite sure , about my irresponsible behaviour. ????

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14 hours ago, geisha said:

Obesity is a killer, and when I see the young kids in Thailand, it really worries me. The junk food they pack from real young is awful. It’s bad everywhere of course, and I’ll never forget sitting on the beach on Isla de las mujeres in Mexico and seeing a US cruise ship tourists amble ashore . I’ve never seen hundreds of extreme obese people together before . I like to enjoy myself, and now and again eat a nice gâteau or drink a few , but I know my weight, I weigh once a week, and am much too vain to let myself go. Remember school photos, how many overweight kids did you see ? It’s all just being kind to yourself really. 

Ive just come back from a local out doors market and along nearly every aisle there were food vendors and I would say the majority of the food on sale was being deep fried in a large container of bubbling hot oil. 

And as for the US cruise ship and the disembarking crowds of obese passengers , I had a similar reaction when I first started to watch Judge Judy , seeing an endless stream of obese defendants and plaintiffs . And don’t get me started on  .....  My 600-lb Life . ????

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4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I am overweight, have diabetes, and I love good food.

Would I live longer if I would lose weight and eat something different? Maybe, but not sure?

Would I feel better if I would think all the time about the things which I should not eat or only eat a little? Sure not.

Would the girls love me more if I would lose 20 kg? No, because I am still an "old" guy and most young and attractive company cost money - even if I would eat litte and exercise every day.

In short: I enjoy life. I don't care if I die a few years earlier. At least I had a lot of fun and not much to worry about.

The ..... if I die a few years earlier , part got to me . .

Can I ask how old you are .

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16 minutes ago, bojo said:

Sounds like you've cracked it and are well on your way to a healtier lifestyle................
 

It is widely accepted that added sugars are detrimental to one's health. This article below is simple and informative..........

 

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/14-ways-to-eat-less-sugar#TOC_TITLE_HDR_8

 

 

There is and has been constant debate around the negative effects and benefits of fat content in food, especially processed foods..

For anyone interested, this BBC article is an example...

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190712-saturated-fat-worse-than-unsaturated-fat

 

 

 

Thanks for the links , I'm now going to read them all ????

2 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

Not really an answer to the OP but connected.  I am amazed at how much weight can be lost by simply cutting out sugar.  I never had a 'beer belly' until I had some medication which caused me to put on weight - 10kg to be precise.  Previously I was always been able to eat what I wanted - and I love chocolate.

 

However, just 5 weeks ago I decided to do something about my weight problem - my doctor had also diagnosed pre-diabetes.  I've cut all chocolate but to be fair I'd already reduced it quite a lot anyway - with no noticeable difference.  I drink quite a lot of tea and coffee with sugar. I've cut that completely and lost 4 kg in 5 weeks.

Thanks , And Well Done  ????   4 kg in 5 weeks is to me wonderful going and the cutting down sugar is some thing I’m going to look at . 

Thanks .

7 hours ago, Wuvu2 said:

Hard to calculate the cost/benefit. Without the good diet your friends might have died long ago ???? I find I feel better when I eat well and lay off treats. Diet seems to have a more immediate impact on how I feel than it did when I was younger.  

I find I feel better when I eat well and lay off treats is a wonderful way of thinking about this topic and where you say that things now feel different than it did when you were younger , hits the nail right on its head .

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14 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

With ur viewpoint why not consider heroïne for a while? There are a lot of drug-users that have outlived non users. Why would you hold back?

I have never ever done recreational drugs , but may be , just may be taking some sort of relaxant drug could possibly in some way free my mind from what could be a blossoming obsession with my diet and health , who knows ????

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15 minutes ago, colinneil said:

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A bit older than me , are you possibly like me where the older that I become the more I seem to dwell on and get fixated about just how much time I may have left on this earth . One area that I seem to enjoy is reading the obituaries especially when I read that a so called celebrity has passed away at a lot older age than my self . Seeing that celebrity’s final age,  then in some strange way offers me a glimmer of hope. 

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14 hours ago, colinneil said:

Diet !! Stuff the diet, i eat what i want, when i want, i am going to die soon anyway.

Yes sat at my computer most of the day, no exercise, eat and enjoy.

A good friend of mine, turned 70, plenty of exercise, no drink, a vegi, just out of hospital after heart operation, stuck at home moaning about not being able to do things.

So i just laugh at folk prattling on about careful diet, exercise, do not eat this, or that, exercise, hog wash.

Can I ask how old you are ?

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5 hours ago, VBF said:

Someone, I forget who, had this quote as their signature on TVF.....

 

Just Love it  ????

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1 hour ago, GreasyFingers said:

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3 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

This is actually a fascinating topic and has many many facets... 

 

Would the dead guys have enjoyed the fried chicken or would it have worried them to an early grave?

 

Would they have died 20 years ago and their diet bought them extra time?

 

Would you are anyone feel better w/a different diet - or not? The indulgence might be worth it?

 

So many of these are personal choices... does extra weight make other activities less fun or are you ok with it?

 

For me, I am heading back to Keto next week as they have found ways to make it much more palatable... more sweets and nearly edible carb substitutes available - at least in CM... 

 

ps - chicken and strawberries are healthy foods... Chicken not fried w/breading is ok and where I have lunch at the Keto shop you can get a strawberry smoothie that is wonderful. 

From past conversations with both these now dead friends I remember them both becoming increasingly more paranoid about their mortality as they were both good friends with another British expat who had a massive heart attack while out riding his mountain bike in Pattaya , that good friend was only 51 years old and a life long keen cyclist . I think that one friend having a heart attack was the catalyst that sent my two friends down the ‘’ eating healthy ‘’ path . Its some what  ironic that both my friends even though they both went down the ‘’ eating healthy ‘’ path ended up passing away with heart issues. Yes they were constantly worrying about not ending up like their 51 year old dead friend .

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18 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

I think if you have been quite fit and healthy all your life and have now reach  70....yes...what the hell......not sure you can do that much damage now......I intend to start smoking, do drugs and drink more once I hit 70......going for it.

I ❤️ the  ➡︎.  not sure you can do that much damage now  ⬅︎   Part ????

8 hours ago, shy coconut said:

OP, have you had any general  check ups on your heart or general health?

 

I am in my mid 50's and had a couple of feelings that there was something up 

with my body. Most of my life I have worked manual jobs and that has kept me 

relatively healthy, but for most of the past year have been on furlough in the UK

and have been gaining weight. My parents both have/ had heart issues.

 

I went to see my GP, not something I have done regularly, and have been prescribed

statins and referred to a cardiologist who will be doing an angiogram next week.

 

It is a bit of a shock to me as it reminds me that I won't enjoy great health for ever and 

like an old car, I will need more tinkering to keep myself roadworthy.

 

The upside is that I have addressed the issue (hopefully) early enough to avoid a 

potentially catastrophic incident in the next few years and with an ammended diet 

and lifestyle, with medication, I may have a few more good years in me.

 

I think a good balance is the best way to go, although a little "junk food" every now and then 

shouldn't be a problem.

 

It is true that living a pure life isn't a guarantee for perfect health, my neighbour doesn't 

drink, has never smoked and eats fresh healthy food every day, yet recently developed 

cancer and is now on a chemotherapy course.

 

So to summarize, after a length, often boring post , is do what makes you happy, but if you

can go have a check up then do so, and if the quacks prescribe you a change of lifestyle or

medication, then please take their advice rather than a few random people on a forum ????????

 

 

 

Thanks for your thoughts 

Its funny you mentioning about having any general health check ups .

In another thread in the  Health and Medicine section I have posted about my feeling constantly nauseous and my ongoing quest to find out why . When I saw the hospital doctor he sent me for these tests .......

A. Physical examination of my stomach area. ( No issues found )
B. Blood test - 4 vials of blood were taken. ( Blood test results showed high cholesterol , every thing else was within the normal range) .
C. A stool sample .( stool sample results were negative ) .
D. An ECG test - electrocardiogram . ( results were normal / heart / lungs / etc ) .

The comment about your neighbour and their healthy life style but still developed cancer is a reminder that following what some consider a healthy diet and life style may not pay off in the end. ????

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2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I'm 65, eat whatever I like whenever I like, get drunk and take drugs every day. 

Bacon sandwich for breakfast, just about to start on the cocktails (Tom Collins), will have roast pork and chips for lunch (if I'm still sober enough to cook), or maybe pizza.

Do walk 8+Km every day which seems to keep my weight down to 76Kg (6' tall) ....... already walked 4km.

 

Not bothered about death, happy to go tomorrow.

No really ,  you are  NOT afraid of the Grim Reaper knocking at your door . I really wish I had your outlook about death . Are you really telling me that I can add you to the top of my.    ‘’ people who have thrown caution to the wind ‘’    list . .

11 hours ago, Leaver said:

Whilst you have lost two friends that monitored their diet and exercised, you are lucky you haven't lost 5 friends that did not.

 

Your OP is based on statistics personal to you, but that does not mean they are indicative of the wider population.  

I some times pop over to a small local bar run by a jovial retired English expat . Its normally the same motley crowd of retired over 65 year old expats sitting there . The thing that plainly stands out when in conversations with them is their apparent non interest in their diet . In the past I have broached the subject of loosing weight and trying to stay healthy . Looking around the table at the assembled beer bellies , expanded waistlines and red faces , to me its obvious that they have decided to throw caution to the wind then order another beer and delicious fat drenched beef burger.

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8 hours ago, Airalee said:

I’m diligently back on my Keto diet for health reasons.  Sure...I would love to throw caution to the wind and eat whatever I feel like, whenever I feel like.  But...if I did, I would have issues to deal with up until my death that I would rather not deal with.  Primarily psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis.  

 

If I eat carbs for an extended period, the inflammation sets in, my joints ache badly, the skin on my fingers and palms split open looking like they’ve been sliced open with a knife.  The diet helps immensely...so...I gotta stick with it until I have a heart attack and die at a young(er) age if that is what my outcome is meant to be.

 

If you don’t need to be on any special diet for health reasons, then I say...have at it...enjoy.  It’s not for me to judge.

 

I do understand your concerns relating to you eating carbs for an extended time ,  

Personally I have never ever required an over night hospital stay or suffered from any ongoing debilitating medical issues . My health for some one in their 70’s is generally good and although I do try and watch my weight and keep as active as possible , I can honestly say that Ive never really made that much of an effort to control my diet . I am five feet 8 inches tall and currently weigh 76 Kg .  On a recent blood test ( I was feeling nauseous ) the results showed normal in all areas except one 
that was my cholesterol numbers were a little high  . 

My family history shows that may parents and other relatives all lived to a ripe old age and many of them seemed to be blessed with good health. Could family genetics play a part in the scheme of things.

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30 minutes ago, tonray said:

With gall bladder issues the most common symptoms would be nausea after eating foods with a high fat content. Gallstones can present a variety of symptoms or almost none at all so not outside the realm of possibility for your so far anecdotal observations under loosely controlled conditions. Please let us know by following up after the tests. Good luck

Hi and many thanks for your comment ????

In my case the constantly nauseous symptoms are reduces / go away ‘’ after eating ‘’ which seems to be the other way around rather than the normal ‘’ nausea after eating foods with a high fat content ‘’  situation. When I eat my nauseous goes away . I’m going to see the doctor in a few days to tell him about my situation where it seems that my feeling constantly nauseous is reduced / goes away after I eat some thing .

I have my fingers crossed that I don’t need to have my gallbladder removed. ????.

I will of course post back on how things go .
 

8 hours ago, Sheryl said:

he has not had an ultrasound yet, that would be logical next step

Thanks Sheryl

Other tests Ive now read about are ....

1. Liver function
2. Ultrasound ( already mentioned ) 
3. Colonoscopy
4. HIDA Scan
5. Endoscopy
6. Chest X-ray
7. Urine Test
8. CAT Scan
 

Ever since I started to feel constantly nauseous , although my apatite had not diminish I cut back on eating my normal three meals a day routine just to see if doing that food reduction improved my symptoms in any way. Cutting back on the amount of daily meals I ate did not seem to have any obvious effect and my being constantly nauseous symptom never changed or reduced. 

However I did start to notice that after one of my home cooked evening meals , within 10 minuets my feeling  nauseous symptom slowly went away and I felt better . So I wanted to see how I would feel when feeling nauseous , If I ate a small amount of food instead of a large home cooked meal, so today I ate  a small sandwich and a packet of crisps .  ‘’ Lo and behold  ‘’ after eating only those two small food items my constantly nauseous feeling started to become less and less .

I’m trying to find out what the possible relationship is between eating food and then my nauseous symptoms diminishing . 

Any one have an idea ? 
 

4 hours ago, DogNo1 said:

Could be gallbladder or histamine intolerance.   Histamine intolerance is gaining recognition as the cause of many symptoms, including psychological symptoms.  Dr.Ede, a psychiatrist who is a Harvard graduate, has a website worth looking at for information regarding histamine intolerance.  It causes many problems that often are not diagnosed correctly.

Thanks ???? I had never heard of histamine intolerance , so I'm now going to check it out.

14 hours ago, tonray said:

Check the whites of your eyes....any yellowing ?

 

Also did the doctor check (ultrasound) gall bladder...very common to have nausea symptoms with gall bladder stone or obstruction

Thanks for your comment , the Ultrasound is on my list of things to talk to the doctor about .

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Walk 5-10Km a day, particularly walk when you're feeling nauseous.

I always felt worse just before bed, so I''d go for a walk before bed.

 

Eat simple food, white rice, grilled chicken, avoid all bread, dairy, sauces, spices, fried, processed food, coffee, fizzy drinks.

Now I'm no longer overweight, and exercise every day, I've returned to eating anything I like, but the first 6-12months were hard.

Many Thanks 

Some sound advice I'm going to start following ????

2 hours ago, Sheryl said:

The charcoal would certainly explain the dark stool so no worries on that score.

 

Up to you if you want to wait or return to the doctor sooner. As it is already Thursday I'd probably wait till early next week. But I think if the meds were going to help they would have by now.

Thanks .

I’m going to wait until some time next week to telephone the hospital and make a new sooner appointment with the same doctor .

To night for my evening meal I had grilled chicken and assorted steamed vegetables , as soon as I had finished that meal my ever present nausea symptoms magically disappeared and have not yet returned . And that situation happens every time I have a meal . I’m trying to understand why having a meal ( not a snack ) makes my constant  nausea symptoms temporarily disappear . So far I can’t seem to find an answer .