codemonkey

It was mentioned recently that the WWII Axis countries -- Italy, Austria, Germany -- are the ones now locking down the unvaccinated and moving towards compulsory vaccinations.

3 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Only spoken by anti vaxxers.

did you get that info from one of your "backed up with links to credible sites to try and help others with information" sites?

4 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

pandemic of the unvaccinated

Ok, but the first know cases of omicron in the USA were in fully vaccinated people who returned from trips to SA. I'm willing to bet the ranch these two vaccinated folks spread some of that omicron despite being vaccinated. Unless otherwise shown, the omicron variant was unleashed in America by vaccinated.

1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:

it's extremely difficult to travel right now. 

Whats bizarre is LOL.,,, Biden issued travel bans on countries with zero reported omicron cases, due to a new variant that has killed a total of zero people. Last count was 5 total omicron cases in US, at least 3 cases are in fully vaccinated.

53 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Traveling or not, this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated.

If this is a pandemic of unvaxxed people, why do the people with two experimental mRNA injections need a 3rd for a disease with a <2% CFR with the average age of covid deaths about the same as the average lifespan in US and other countries?

There are a lot of people being called "antivaxxers" who aren't against ALL vaccines, but are against *THIS* (failed) experimental mRNA drug being called a "vaccine" – even though it doesn't effectively stop infections or transmission.

35 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

⚠️Bottomline hospitalizations are surging. Almost 10x rise in 2 weeks!

I don't see a 10 fold increase in hospitalizations from the twitter graph and the SA website data does not show that increase for week 48, or any other reporting periods, (W48 ends on Dec5th).

Infection cases have increased sharpy but not hospitalizations.

Omicron, has become controversial and interesting as scientists are currently very interested in its origin and are investigating some theories as to its origin to help with their intervention and mitigation steps.

2 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

You are aware cases and hospitalizations are skyrocketing in SA? So much for holding the line....

I see increases (18 fold/1750%) in SA covid infections from omicron day (Nov09 1st case?), but not skyrocketing hospitalizations, unless the data is lagging.

new cases/million (7 day rolling av.)

weekly new hospital admissions/million (reL to PoP.)

14 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

True. But it's also only been reported for a small number of people who are mostly young and vaccinated. The devil is in the details, not the headlines.

Virus's are clever in their evolutionary strategy in that they want to infect as many people as possible but not kill them. Hopefully the scientists and T-cells collaborate, are more clever than the virus and can hold the line to stop covid.

3 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Off topic.

Sorry, I was on the can AGAIN! Airplane food, i dunno, not good.

6 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

S.Africa's health body sees threefold higher risk of reinfection from Omicron

So far, everything I have read about omicron is that although it may spread very easily, symptoms reported have been quite mild in infected people.

11 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Post it here, please.  It'll give us a break from you.

Thank you, don't shoot me I am just the messenger (the one with the facts).

Did you know:

"The third-leading cause of death in US most doctors don’t want you to know about..."

Is

• Medical errors are the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer.

Maybe it's 4th now, but you get the point

FDA, the medical experts, doctors, are not infallible and they do kill with mistakes,, unintended adverse effects, etc and we need stringent scrutiny at every level especially during a period of mass vaccinations with experimental drugs.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html

1 minute ago, Jeffr2 said:

Please go back.

I can take a pic and show you,,,,

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

allegations are facts.

I didn't say that either, incorrect again.

2 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Give it a rest, please.  You're nit picking this to death.

Sorry, I was preoccupied on the porcelain throne. Did I miss anything.

It is likely that all EUA vaccines in the US (moderna, pfizer BioNTech, J&J) would be shelved if there is an FDA approved vaccine, such as Comirnaty, but it seems not to be available. Even so, you can't force people to accept unapproved, experimental emergency use authorized vaccines if FDA approved alternatives exist.

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

courts have found that FDA was underhanded in its approval of the vaccine.

Can you clarify this, where this was stated.. You are misquoting, TOTALLY misstating the facts.

The plaintiffs have alleged bait & switch and claims FDA are intentionally misrepresenting the law in their request for the temporary restraining order and will be argued in court Sept 2022.

be right back, maybe, have to go to the toilet....big time!

8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And no, the courts, including this one, have not ruled that the FDA approval process was underhanded."

Another one of your porkies, the court, the judge is not on the record quoting those incorrect statements you have again put forward here.

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Pfizer vaccine and Comirnaty are 2 distinct vaccines

But, but,....but....THEY ARE!  Even the FDA and pfizer refer to them as "distinct", legally and as per the Summary Basis for Regulatory Action.

Please read the docs, enjoy your day while doing so.

Anything else before I go?

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

There is no law requiring Pfizer to call it Comirnaty.

Facts not in evidence, pretty sure I didn't say that. Also, irrelevant.

trools, i mean trolls, trolling, calling me a troll, is /was your last bullet.

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Yours is a troll's notion

Instead of this amateur behavior, try to see the implication here.

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

ungrounded assertions.

Please share these.