SunnyinBangrak

The dishonest framing here is almost unbearable. We have, right now, an election denier who is President. "On Tuesday, Biden struck back at Trump. After a woman claimed she had a "very severe case of what's called Trump Derangement Syndrome," and that Trump is an "illegitimate president in my mind," Biden responded: "I absolutely agree." https://www.insider.com/joe-biden-says-he-agrees-trump-is-illegitimate-president-2019-5 So why do the BBC use the phrase in the title to give the impression that only certain Republicans have denied election results, while the good people, the democrats would always accept and respect results. It is not true. Democrats have denied elections just as much as the GOP. Why can't media outlets at least try and be honest and fair? Good luck to Ms Lake, if the votes ever get counted. I think Florida should be in charge of counting all ballots nationwide in 2024 seeing as some states just can't do it.

Is this another false claim like your don't say gay bill which didn't say (or mean) gay? Any chance of a credible link that shows DeSantis genuinely doing wrong to LGBT just because they are LGBT? And how is the false claim meaning DeSantis is like Putin? IIRC DeSantis made a huge effort to stop vulnerable Florida children getting sexualized and groomed by predators. Predators of all shapes, colors and varieties. Something we should all be supporting.

Just spin, pure and simple. They have no choice and the tame msm outlets are only too happy to brown nose with this silly celebratory theme. If they accept that probably losing the house and maybe also the senate is bad( it is!!) then they have to dump biden, but they have absolutely nobody to replace him.

Why are the left taking victory laps and celebrating their performance when neither results are in? Do they know something the rest of us don't? It looks like they will lose the house, how is that a Yeehaw moment?

Hopefully the GOP take the cue and go all-in behind big Ronnie DeSantis. He would be a great upgrade from the divisive teleprompter reader in office now.

"While Democrats' views have darkened this year, they tend to remain more positive than Republicans and independents, ranking such economic concerns behind other issues, such as climate change, racism and abortion." I expect with a GOP house, and a move away from hysterical and hypocritical "election denier" and "big lie" talking points and more towards reality based narratives concerning foreign corrupt adventures and whether a Presidents family should be in business with the Chinese communist party, whether we should be sending open checks to a country that was supposed to have a dangerous nazi problem, disastrous inflation and the economy the public perception will change. Imaginary foes may make a great diversion but with Pelosi gone so will her irrelevant alarmist narratives. Good riddance.

from your own apnews link - "CLAIM: Voters on Tuesday faced a minimum two-hour wait time at most voting sites in Maricopa County. THE FACTS: The county responded to this claim, saying it’s inaccurate. And as of midday Tuesday, nearly half of Maricopa County’s 223 voting centers reported no waits, The Associated Press reported. Some voters in the Phoenix suburb Anthem had reported waiting several hours to be able to vote, with only one of two tabulators there working. By 1:30 p.m., the Anthem location had a wait of about an hour." So as per apnews some Phoenix voters reported waiting SEVERAL HOURS which was due to issues with 20% of the tabulating machines. apnews is particularly dishonest here by making a silly claim about "MOST" voting sites in Maricopa. Nobody said MOST voting sites, yet they do this so they can partly debunk the false claim, which they just made up to be able to do this - SNopes do this all the time too, something like Trump claimed Bidens DOJ raided his home in the middle of the night while Trump was wearing fluffy pink slippers. VERDICT partly false. While his home was raided at night like he said, there is no evidence he was wearing fluffy pink slippers. A dirty trick by factcheckers to watch out for.

I'll go ahead and put it in capitals for you. WITH AERIAL VIDEO SHOWING LINES WRAPPED AROUND BUILDINGS IN THE PHOENIX AREA I could care less what desperate spin msm puts on it, video showing huge queues of waiting voters is more credible evidence than some partisan opinion piece in an media outlet that is having a dreadful day.

20% of the perfect counting machines(to question anything about them could see you banned from social media and worse because they never could malfunction) being broken(raises an eyebrow) could conceivably cause delay, long queues and confusion, much better to simply extend hours. Right? "Some voters also had to wait hours to cast their ballots at polling places because only one of two tabulators were working, with aerial video showing lines wrapped around buildings in the Phoenix area. “We’d like to apologize to voters who were inconvenienced by some of the things that occurred today,” Gates said. “No one was disenfranchised today.” https://www.azfamily.com/2022/11/08/tabulation-problems-reported-maricopa-county-election-officials-assure-votes-will-be-counted/ who said no one was disenfranchised? Waiting hours in the Az sun would be an issue for some. Best play fair and extend hours to vote.

I'm not sure wanting only legal and legitimate ballots counted, and ballots that do not conform to the rules rejected counts as suppression? Surely adhering to election rules is good for electoral integrity. We should all be supporting this.

Voter suppression you say? You will enjoy this thread... "A judge denied on Tuesday evening the Republicans’ effort to extend poll hours and delay the release of early ballot numbers on Election Day in Arizona’s largest county. "

If Reagan was alive I think we'd wheel him out. As it stands only Bush is alive, and his whole military-industrial complex theme has been well and truly left behind by the Republican party - we are now a party of diplomacy and peace. Liz Cheney and Bush are much more closely aligned with the Democrats these days. The pair would be booed off any proper Republican stage. They would have loved the wild and woolly Ukraine spending though.

Massive clustermuck hey?? Sounds like Musk played a blinder here and is laughing all the way to the bank - despite earlier reports to the contrary. "Since Musk’s dramatic takeover, Twitter’s monetizable daily user (mDAU) growth has accelerated to more than 20 percent, while “Twitter’s largest market, the US, is growing even more quickly,” according to an internal FAQ obtained by The Verge that was shared with Twitter’s sales team on Monday to use in conversations with advertisers. Per the FAQ, Twitter has added more than 15 million mDAUs, “crossing the quarter billion mark” since the end of the second quarter, when it stopped reporting financials as a public company." https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/7/23445476/elon-musk-twitter-user-growth-all-time-high-advertisers

Despite the false bravado and nonchalance, I'm guessing the democrats pushing Musk over to the GOP side will be causing some angst behind closed doors. Of all the people the left hounded and abused, Musk will be the costliest for them. He voted for Clinton and Biden, and now he had to leave the "extreme" democrat party, just as he bought the digital town square. Ouch "Musk voted for Hillary Clinton in the 2016 U.S. presidential election and voted for Joe Biden in the 2020 U.S. presidential election. In May 2022, Musk said that he could "no longer support" the Democrats and would be voting Republican instead due to Biden's support for unions and his inability to "get a lot done". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Views_of_Elon_Musk#:~:text=Musk voted for Hillary Clinton,"get a lot done".

Can you post a link supporting your claim that Republicans are disqualifying votes because they are not for the prefferred candidate? Not holding my breath....

"Stumping for embattled New York Gov. Kathy Hochul at Sarah Lawrence College in Yonkers Sunday, the President responded to a shouted question from an audience member about his longstanding promises to shut down fracking and new drilling on federal lands and waters by saying “no more drilling...there is no more drilling...I haven’t formed any new drilling.” https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidblackmon/2022/11/07/biden-promises-no-more-drilling-just-days-after-demanding-more-drilling/?sh=5bf1b22c78e7 Yes it seems he is well and truly lost. Shutting down coal production and drilling for oil would be absolutely disastrous for the economy. But does he know what he is saying? Is he saying what he means to say? It is very annoying waiting for left wing msm to say, Oh actually he didn't mean that, he meant........

Seeing as this is supposed to be a thread about BIDEN, let's have some BIDEN casting doubt on midterm results. Here we are! "During Wednesday’s White House news conference, Biden stunned viewers by saying the results this November “easily could be illegitimate” and adding “I’m not going to say it’s going to be legit” — seeming to parrot Trump’s claims that Democrats said irresponsibly undermined faith in US democracy." https://nypost.com/2022/01/21/psaki-tries-to-explain-why-biden-cast-doubt-on-midterm-election-legitimacy/ I wonder if a sitting President casting doubt on electoral integrity is good for democracy? What say the Biden bros?

yes indeed Bruce. The left spent 4 years claiming Trump was an illegitimate President, and then completely lost their minds when Trump gave them a dose of their own medicine. I'd say that makes both parties about equal in that respect, not sure why the forum left dwell on election denialism seeing as their own team started the whole thing off in the first place. Small summary of some of the more prominent democrat election deniers, people like Maxine Waters, Jerry Nadler, Hillary, Bernie etc - to refresh your memory and keep a sense of perspective in this discussion. https://vpm.org/news/articles/36184/politifact-va-democrats-questioned-validity-of-2016-election-but-not-how-votes

Are you talking about election deniers Joe Biden and Stacy Abrams?

"Last week, President Obama flew here to swim with Hawaiian monk seals and draw attention to a quieter war — one he has waged against rising seas, freakish storms, deadly droughts and other symptoms of a planet choking on its own fumes. Bombs may not be falling. The sound of gunfire does not concentrate the mind. What Mr. Obama has seen instead are the charts and graphs of a warming planet. “And they’re terrifying,” he said in a recent interview in Honolulu." https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/08/us/politics/obama-climate-change.html So he is terrified of rising sea levels. So terrified that he goes out and buys TWO sea level mansions, one in Martha's(2) and also he bought the old Hawaii 5-0 mansion in Hawaii(1). The objection conservatives have to this is that his stance smacks of insincerity. Does he want to walk the walk of a climate alarmist, or is he pretending to be one to fool gullible democrats? Most revealing is that discussion of Obamas waterfront mansions was verboten. Letting the public know BO's actions was a no go. Why was that? Nothing to hide nothing to fear right. With insincere speakers like Obama, I can't imagine any good will come of him and Biden campaigning. All eyes will be on the human dynamo Donald John Trump who will be whipping his fans into patriotic frenzies. something the Biden-bros don't do much of. supporting evidence for inconvenient claims made (1) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10481075/Scowling-Obama-inspects-new-multi-million-dollar-Hawaii-mansion-controversial-sea-wall.html (2) https://www.homesandgardens.com/news/president-obama-new-house-marthas-vineyard

market cap of $650m, not bad for one chaps part time hobby-horse is it? cant find any data from the last month or two, but.. "Trump’s truth social platform ranks 14th on the Apple app charts. Truth Social’s rank on the Apple App Store charts is presently 14 in the US, based on its download history. The app is only accessible on iOS devices." https://world-wire.com/truth-social-statistics/ All in all, looks a roaring success. I would have expected nothing less from the business and dealmaking guru.

The only people upset here are the left. The left making emotional rants likely because Musk now controls the digital town square and will stop the ludicrous one sided censorship which the dems have relied on. Hardly suggests buyers regret, does it? I think his plan to charge $8 a month for a blue tick is genius. He'll make a fortune after they calmed down enough to realize they will lose their voice(and adoring fans) without Twitter. #neversaystartyourownplatformagain

It was a false statement. Every time you make it again in the future, it will be a false statement. "THE FACTS: Trump’s speech was a call to action" That is an opinion, not borne from factual evidence or the speech that Trump made where he told his followers to be PEACEFUL. If you want to get outraged by calls to violence, which were promptly acted out might I suggest your very own Schumer? "“I want to tell you Gorsuch. I want to tell you Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.” https://www.vox.com/2020/3/5/21165479/chuck-schumer-neil-gorsuch-brett-kavanaugh-supreme-court-whirlwind-threat which led to an assassination attempt on Judge Kavanaugh, just like Schumer threatened. Yikes! "Epic fail: Media apathy on attempted Kavanaugh murder shameful" https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/3523618-epic-fail-media-apathy-on-attempted-kavanaugh-murder-shameful/ Of course there will be no outrage from you over a REAL threat which was attempted to be carried out. Why is that now? Why does Biden not mention this very real threat to democracy from his own party?

NBC adding to the confused narratives here, and then immediately pulling the story! NBC News mysteriously PULLS its exclusive report on how Nancy Pelosi's husband Paul... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11390497/Paul-Pelosi-answered-door-cops-did-NOT-say-distress-new-police-account-claims.html I hope one day we will know what actually happened in the Pelosi house that night, but I do not expect to know before the mid terms sadly.

But he didn't say that did he. He said the complete opposite of that. Did he not say "make your voices heard peacefully and patriotically"? Yes, that is what he really said. People going so far as to falsely state in posts above that it is a FACT that Trump ordered riots and insurrection and a coup. Pure farce, and misinformation to the extreme. The Jan 6th narrative the democrats are using is as factual and honest as the one about that guy that got lynched and bleached outside a Chicago Subway shop in an arctic freeze. I look forward to a return to reality based politics and to get to the bottom of 4 years of political violence and repeated false flag ops. Oh, and an end to bidens hate and fake divisive narratives too.