I have to disagree with you completely there.
 
The UK and France declared war on Germany because they invaded Poland and the 2 powers had signed a pact to do so. Finland OTOH actually fought on the side of Germany against Russia before finally changing sides in 1944 to join with the Russians.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Finland_during_World_War_II#Lapland_War
 
If you had listened to Nigel Farage he was certainly not abusing heroism by grandfathers but pointing out the realities of what happened then. I doubt that Nigel Farage is a coward even though you do.
 
I also served the UK for 25 years from 1960 until 1984. By the time Nigel Farage was eligible for military service at the earliest in 1984 the UK forces had drastically slimmed down and required far less people so he chose a different career.
 
How many of your EU heroes such as Juncker, Tusk et al have ever served in the military?

Cyprus ?
Malta?
In the penalty box?
 

If thats the case then all the remoaners will sign it as well

I see no issue If I was a remoaner I would be worried and I would want this petition stopped or to fail

 

Stop possible second referendum on E.U. membership

There is a growing band of people that want to reverse the result of the democratic vote of this country to leave the European Union and are calling for a second referendum. This is mainly by the people that lost the vote two years ago and cannot accept the democratic vote of the majority decision.

 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/226071

 

Why does the Thai Immigration office not verify the applicants income themselves???
Sounds crazy, I know, but they would be doing the same thing as an embassy, and they have exactly the same powers that the embassy have to confirm the income. (ie. none)
Oh thats right they're too stupid, too lazy, and expect other people to do their jobs for them. 

One wonders over what period of time the Baht 65,000 deposits per month need to be shown. In the past they seemed to be only interested in seeing banking history for the three months prior to applying for an extension. 

Russia is lobbing some spanners around as well:

https://mlexmarketinsight.com/insights-center/editors-picks/brexit/europe/russia-blocks-uks-post-brexit-tariff-proposal-at-wto

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The EU’s project for ever-closer union trundles on – now with its aims for imposing taxation law on sovereign countries. Fiscal union is considered to be one of the late stages of unification. Maybe now is a good time to get out after all.
 
“The European Union is drawing up plans to control Britain’s tax policies ­after Brexit, leaked documents seen by The Daily Telegraph disclose.
 

According to draft documents, the EU wants to ensure the UK pledges to keep its tax rules aligned with those of the bloc as part of any future Brexit agreement.

Such a move would prevent the UK from becoming a low-tax economy by cutting its corporation tax rate to attract business. And – depending on the wording of any agreement – it could mean that any future changes to the EU’s tax rules would need to be followed by the UK, even years after Brexit.

 

The document was written by the European Parliament’s TAX3 secretariat following a meeting with the Brexit Task Force, the EU negotiating team led by Michel Barnier, last week.”

 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/10/19/revealed-eus-attempt-control-britains-tax-policies-brexit/

Timetables were not mentioned on the referendum. The only mandate given by the majority was to leave.
 
You ignore my point, at the same time apparently absolving Cameron of responsibility, which I'm sure he was happy to release himself from. However, he pledged a referendum in the 2015 GE if negotiations with the EU on reforms turned out badly (which they did); that pledge gave him a GE win and majority without the Lib Dems. He also pledged to honour the result of the referendum and the only way he could do that was to stay on and see it through. Cameron got away with all this far too easily.  
 

No. He is at fault for having no exit plan in the event that leave won and that he actually kept his word to deliver Brexit. He never said in advance that he would quit as PM if the vote was out, did he? 

Here the missing link for the photo it was a march in  Manchester 2015 Before Brexit
The security for a 2015 EDL demo in the city which attracted 400 of their supporters cost about £250,000.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/there-been-more-members-sugarbabes-15306865

Much needed taxes.  At least there are some silver linings then.

Article here from a local 'news' channel suggest phone copy maybe not accepted though bit vague regarding a "physical copy". Also says this is an ongoing operation of spot checks on tourists.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=339408210143528&id=176481829769501

2 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Most UK companies tried to influence in what direction their workers voted prior to the referendum the issue for many workers is when these companies were asked to provide a commitment that they would remain in the UK for a long term period the same answer always came back "We currently have no plans to relocate our operations" which means nothing as next week or 1 year later that statement might change.

Would Ford relocated its Transit  production back to the UK if remain won. Unlikely

Not sure the Ford money was that influential on the transit move - they were already making them in Turkey, it was a low interest loan from the EIB rather than a direct handout which they paid back for 180m and they also received 450m for UK around the same time. 

6 minutes ago, rixalex said:

 

 

Thanks for the info. Certainly nothing I'm doing intentionally. Must be an idiosyncracy of the mobile app I guess.

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I have problems with fonts sometimes swapping between mobile and webview as they change - can't put attachments in on mobile for some reason.

55 minutes ago, Time Traveller said:

Parking in a no parking zone is also against the law too. That doesn't mean they should report in the news when someone gets a parking fine. News stories over such trivial matters like this makes important stories seem less important, and wrongly creates an impression that foreigners are dangerous criminals.  

The original story lacks quite a few details. The Pattaya News story I linked to gives more details and this guy was only one of 20 that were picked up on that night in spot checks mainly on Walking St on tourists/foreigners who were held at Soi9 until someone brought their passport for them - three overstsyers caught.

I am not sure we are anymore enlightened on either the risks of staying in or leaving it appears the establishment didn't like the vote so have tried to frustrate the process of leaving. The government before voting day issued a booklet of properganda to aid the remain cause (12 million pounds of pro remain dribble) it clearly stated we would have what remainers term as hard Brexit, but is infact simply Brexit. The Government clearly told us the risks and that we would leave all institutions of the EU, so we voted for a hard Brexit in fact. Now just because the EU wouldn't compromise on their principals (I don't blame them) we should simply leave on WTO rules sign our own trade deals save what will be 15 billion pounds in contributions and receive due to EU imports a profit of 7-9 billion pounds on the tariffs the EU would have to pay us. Therefore we would profit by 20-25 billion a year. When we leave we also avoid the liabilities the EU builds up on our behalf such as the suposed 28 billion divorce bill. And the fact the EU budget is now set vastly above its income.
 
As to what I think your point is, the Brexit referendum was the largest democratic exercise in British history, if we had anouther referendum, (I don't mind if we do as think it will be very close again either way as don't see much option change in the real world) supose remain won, would we then in two years more time have anouther so we go best of three? MPs pretty much all voted for the referendum, and subsequenly for article 50 and there is likely to be serious unrest if we don't leave.
 
Additionally, the EU are funding (and we're before Brexit) in Slovakia over 125 million euros to build a Jaguar factory, that's not very fair to encourage a British manufacturer to shift production from the UK. They did the same with Ford who moved transit production from the UK to a EU funded factory in Turkey.
 
I do respect your remainers view, but there are serious risks in continuing with the EU project, which doesn't get a fair hearing.

Interesting take on Brexit from a German perspective

LOL biggest crock post i've read yet. EU can't do anything to secure any of their borders in Europe in regard's to smuggling, Immigration and anything else that affects so called EU border's. That is what is not difficult to understand. Too many people have opinions about hings that do not directly affect them.
 
Maybe they should get their own border's sorted without bothering about other borders.
 
No matter what happens with Brexit it will never be an acceptable agreement on any side.
 
Britain has gone it alone before and im sure it can do again. Blow up the channel tunnel will be the 1st good start. Then EU wont need to worry about that border. Put a hard border back in Ireland that's problem solved there. Not as if these borders were not in place before and not as if they cannot be put back in place.

11 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

The usual wild optimism that still pervades Brexiteer thinking. 

 

Also, any expats on this forum are likely not to live in Australia.

Not sure where you are coming from with that comment - I am hardly a brexiteer and the item is from a report to a committee of the Australian Parliament. Their thinking is that this would bring an extra 1b$ a year into Australia which would clearly be an additional annual  cost to U.K. if they can push it through as part of an FTA.

Though not directly effecting expats in Thailand it does have the potential to put more impetus behind the campaign to get this looked at on a worldwide basis particularly it other nations also request this in negotiations.

A Brexit plus - not all doom and gloom.

Australia has been carrying out consultations with industry and public bodies about what they want from a future FTA with U.K. and this little titbit turned up - sorry but no link as it was a pic on twitter.

19 minutes ago, My Thai Life said:

Two immediate thoughts on this.

 

1 The CAP is around 40% of the EU budget (but farming only around 2% of GDP). Something that consumes such a vast amount of the budget cannot be separated from agricultural trade policy, intra-EU or inter-national, regardless of where your personal experience lies.

 

2 If your experience is trade policy, how can you possibly put forward the non-truth that the UK has applied to the WTO to trade post-Brexit on EU 3rd country tariffs.

 

I'm inclined to ask you where your specific experience lies, and at what level, but as this is a general forum, it seems like an intrusive question. However, I am forced to conclude from your posts to date, that either you are not a trade specialist, or that your specialism is so narrow that it precludes discussion of the bigger picture.

 

 

As I said, CAP is not my thing and no love of it here - my point on Trade was arguing against the fallacy that prices will come down when we leave which makes the wrong assumption that high tariffs currently are applied.

My comment on our WTO schedule was jumping the gun a bit but is based on the fact that a schedule was submitted in July and it would be virtually impossible for it not to be the same as the EU schedule and the FCO link from last year stated this was the plan.

As for my experience, probably  not best to go into it  as it usually just ends up in dick measuring contest and ad-hominem attacks though I did outline it earlier i  the brexit debate.

11 minutes ago, My Thai Life said:

Ideologues, not ideologies. Well you're one, but a few others have put their head above the parapet today; assuming you actually read any posts here.

Not me - no fan at all.

My point is just on trade policy as that is where my experience is - others keep trying to distract away to EU Ag Policy.

I would gladly see CAP reformed - the Greenpeace article suggests one of their issues is some CAP funding being cut which might be a start but will leave others to debate this with you as it is not really my field.