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Cummings: "Go speak to people outside London."
Next day highest UK court outside London finds him guilty of lying to the Queen.
Cummings: "No not those people"
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7 minutes ago, AGareth2 said:bring a vote of confidence in his own govt?
still does not have the numbers
Challenge the law in the courts?
He could but, since he prorogued parliament, he has to wait until after oct 14th before anyone can vote again. Earliest election date would be 21st Nov ish and at his current rate of failure he would probably even struggle to vote for himself by then.
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27 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:
Not the case. In the event of a no confidence vote, the Queen would invite Corbyn to form a government. It's doubtful he would be able to do that, parliament would be dissolved and a snap election called.
It may have been possible if he had accepted an alternative interim leader, he's point blank refused to do that. Shame, one of the alternatives proposed was Ken Clark, father of the house and a great statesman. Put principles before self in refusing to vote with the Government and accepted his sacking with magnanimity. A true gentleman.
Last night, he stood up, a couple of rows behind Johnson and proceeded to rip Johnson to shreds...in the nicest possible way. Johnson turned round and tried to give him the death stare but he quickly turned back as he realised that it was Ken giving him the death stare. He didn't miss a beat and continued to dismantle Johnson, who just slid further and further into his seat. Game, set and match. One of the great parliamentary moments.
The FtPA allows 14 days for another PM to be found who commands the confidence of parliament so not a given that Queen would call for Corbyn without that confirmation from parliament. By him agreeing to a temporary PM in Clarke or another Tory who has had the whip withdrawn it gives him another chance to cause further chaos within the Cons immediately prior to an election which must be tempting for him.
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Nope. You can't trust Johnson. He's proving himself to be the slimiest toad in toad hall (under Cummings' tutelage). He must wait until Boris has delivered the request to the EU, seen the EU accept and grant the extension and see it enacted, i.e. post October 31st. Expect Corbyn to call for an election, probably via a vote of no confidence, on or around November 1st.
Not sure on that but things are moving that quickly anything can happen.
A confidence vote between 17th and 31st Oct gives Parliament full control since they have a mechanism to change the PM immediately themselves if Johnson does not request and accept an extension if it is legislated for. Also the EU heads of state meeting will have taken place where they will be able to agree if an extension is on the table in response to laws passed in parliament.
Another interesting situation of Johnson’s own making now is there are now some eminent ex Tory MPs who would be able to fill the slot of temporary PMs who would stand a better chance of getting approve by parliament who will not be standing as Conservatives in a future election such as Ken Clarke and Rory Stewart. Bottom line is, if Johnson goes against decisions and laws passed in parliament they must take control of the timeline.
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Corbyn will wait until after prorogation to call a vote of no confidence. If he wins under FtPA there will then be 14 days for parliament to select another PM leading up to 31st Oct meaning they can quickly put in another PM to request an extension from EU if Johnson refuses.
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8 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:He probably was sent the information from a very nice lady who sent him personal messages on Facebook. (a.k.a Dominic Cummings and AIQ. The "European Army" was the giveaway, complete fiction often quoted in many of the 60 million+ PMs sent by AIQ and Cambridge Analytica.)
Spambots, the new democracy.
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It is of course a load of hyperbole and opinions dressed up as fact.
I do see he is claiming as fact:
"I did not know that the EU occupies over 45 buildings 2 of which were purpose built monuments of grandeur and are the largest buildings in Europe."
Maybe he can redeem himself by actually doing some research and backing this up with a link.
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31 minutes ago, JoePai said:I have realised the remoaners have been right all along when they say I did not know all the true facts before voting to leave, so I decided to do a little research.
I just voted to leave because I thought our sovereignty was being compromised by foreign unelected masters, and that we were compelled to have unlimited uncontrolled immigration, our laws and export agreements dictated by Brussels bureaucrats, and had to pay eye-watering amounts for the privilege.
I did not know more than 10,000 EU officials get paid more than our prime minister.
I did not know that unlike the UK, 18 countries get more back from the EU than they put in.
I did not know that the EU occupies over 45 buildings 2 of which were purpose built monuments of grandeur and are the largest buildings in Europe.
I did not know that the EU parliament spends 150million Euros a year moving to Strasbourg every month for 4 days committee meetings, any attempt to stop this stupidity is vetoed by France.
I did not know that the EU has had a huge luxury shopping Mall built in Brussels for the exclusive use of EU employees.
I did not know that every day queues of chauffeur driven cars with their engines running, wait outside EU establishments while their occupants go in, sign in for their attendance allowance and expenses, then come straight back out and are driven away.
I did not know that many of them (like the Kinnocks) end up as millionaires as a reward for looking the other way.
I did not know that Clegg was lying when he mocked Nigel Farage for saying that an EU army was being planned.
I did not know that the EU had been financing the mass movement of industries from UK to mainland Europe.
I could go on and on but suffice it to say that I have never for a moment doubted the correctness of my decision, I am so glad that the remoaners prompted me to look deeper into the bureaucratic absurdity of being in the EU.
I think you have hit the nail on the head there identified the problem with the thought process going on here.
Your first paragraph says you knew very little about the EU so did some research which appears to be going to a pro brexit facebook page and copy/pasting some anti EU screed.
It is no wonder we are in such a state if people just take someone elses points and claim them as their own rather than actually doing the reseatch they claim.
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If you buy in booze for both informal morning village event and formal evening keep the two lots seperate - the village managed to drink a whole days worth of drink by 10am at mine.
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I don't know that that is the process. Usually my experience is I have all the paperwork checked, and then offer payment after it is given the okay. I have not heard of this double whammy 1900 bah happening. Have you?
Virtually every time I have done my marriage extension the miserable woman there has rejected something on the first pass and sent my wife off to do extra copies of something or other or we have had to go to the bank for a new letter - never made us pay twice, lol.
Guess if she does insist on a TM30 next is just a question of getting one while we are there and possibly paying a fine but not exactly a major inconvenience.
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1 minute ago, HeyHeyHey said:Must be the first project in history of Thailand that isn't awarded to "know-it-all" mighty CP
Not really. One of the other consortiums bidding for the project involved Sino-Thai (STEC) which, obviously coincidentally, happens to be controlled by one of our new Deputy PMs and leader of key coalition partner BJT party Anutin Charnviralkul.
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Just done today 90 day report after coming in on re-entry permit on a O Marriage extension. Same address so no TM47 required (just the old slip in passport) and no TM30 still (never done one).
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He was deeply involved and was the CEO or CFO or something... He was one of the TOP guys, he was in videos which pretended to be CNN and were staffed with (not very good) actors/actresses to act as news anchors... They literally made fake news and infringed on copyright logos and such to make it look legit. I read up on the company and watched the videos and he is 100% guilty! The wife trying to say he isn't means she's either stupid or complicit. He scammed Thai people (which is why he got caught) and also scammed people all over the world.
There's even websites that reported on the scam before he was brought to justice.
Website is here with the video
https://behindmlm.com/companies/eagle-gates-group-ceo-eddy-mcclough-arrested-claims-hes-an-actor/
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Bit more here about it from last year - if he was naive enough to think he was doing nothing wrong he needs locking up for his own safety if nothing else.
https://www.nationthailand.com/national/30352744
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3 minutes ago, RotBenz8888 said:Jammed with cars, beach looks deserted.
Since there was heavy rain early afternoon that is hardly surprising.
Probably all heading to T21.
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1 hour ago, jacko45k said:
Perhaps we will all be required to turn on Location Services on our phones 24/7, and supply Thai Immigration with our Google passwords so they can track us?
If you download the latest app from them, Section 38, for sending 90 day reports on Android it give permission for them to access your location.
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But when have Brexiteers ever cared about the UK’s parliamentary representative democracy?
If (and it is a very big if) a new govt/pm becomes apparent in the 14 day period that had the backing of the majority of MPs which could be done through a parliamentary motion or an open letter signed by MPs then, should the current PM refuse to resign, it would force the Queen to make a political decision which would be a massive escalation.
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It was mentioned in a (either Guardian or BBC) article that this would require the existing PM to step down after losing a no-confidence vote which legally he wouldn’t be obliged to.
BBC it is: “However, Catherine Haddon, from the Institute for Government think tank, said that while [forming a government of national unity] was possible, it would rely on Mr Johnson resigning as PM after losing a no-confidence vote - something he is not legally bound to do.”
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49225906
They would be on very tricky constitutional ground to pull that one. The core element of the U.K. constitutional system is the sovereignty of parliament and that the government serves with its confidence. For the PM/govt not to resign would be the same as to prorogue parliament and the Queen to take back power under her appointed PM.
The 14 day rule for parliament to put forward a new govt/pm is a new one in the Fixed Term Parliament Act from 2011 and has not been attempted before. Prior to that an election could have been called immediately. The last time that happened was 1979 when Mrs T came to power so using historical references is a bit dubious.
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Cumming is wrong or being economical with the truth. Though an election could be scheduled for after 31st Oct there is a 14 day period under the Fixed Parliament Act after a vote of no confidence where a new PM could be nominated by the existing set of MPs. Since there is probably a majority there who who vote against no deal there is a chance a PM could be selected who could command a majority on the base of limited extension and national govt. Corbyn could not get the support for that but someone from the Tory side might with commitment for early election to get Labour onside.
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At a bank?
HSBC wouldn’t let me do it a few weeks back as they said it would need to be paid into an account. Put it in to a relatives account in the end who drew it straight back out for me.
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If changing THB to GBP in Thailand make sure they do not give it all in gbp.50 notes as these can be hard to change in the UK.
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It is the same trick he pulled last time with the same group of people behind him.
The EU will not negotiate so he can cast them as being unreasonable, Parliament will reject no deal so he can castigate opposition parties as being unpatriotic and not standing up for Britain. He can then go for an election in October with a lot of flag waving yet with nothing having changed and no need for a clear plan as it will again be about the “establishment” blocking Brexit. The last thing he will want is some compromise from the EU or the support of parliament as this will allow Farage to get a foot in the door.
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You will still have to go the the hospital for the tests and I think they include the doctor for a small fee. I'm waiting to find out.
Mine did not need an x-ray so nothing that Dr Olivier could not provide though I assume he sent the blood samples out for testing. Once I had asked the insurer (Prudential) if they could use him they contacted him directly to make arrangements including paying him directly.
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I used Dr Olivier in Pattaya a few years back for a fairly large life assurance policy from a uk insurer after sending them his details.
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Anyone who can get officially married in Thailand without realizing is beyond help.