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  1. 27 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

    Not the case. In the event of a no confidence vote, the Queen would invite Corbyn to form a government. It's doubtful he would be able to do that, parliament would be dissolved and a snap election called.

     

    It may have been possible if he had accepted an alternative interim leader, he's point blank refused to do that. Shame, one of the alternatives proposed was Ken Clark, father of the house and a great statesman. Put principles before self in refusing to vote with the Government and accepted his sacking with magnanimity. A true gentleman.

     

    Last night, he stood up, a couple of rows behind Johnson and proceeded to rip Johnson to shreds...in the nicest possible way. Johnson turned round and tried to give him the death stare but he quickly turned back as he realised that it was Ken giving him the death stare. He didn't miss a beat and continued to dismantle Johnson, who just slid further and further into his seat. Game, set and match. One of the great parliamentary moments.

     

     

     

     

    The FtPA allows 14 days for another PM to be found who commands the confidence of parliament so not a given that Queen would call for Corbyn without that confirmation from parliament. By him agreeing to a temporary PM in Clarke or another Tory who has had the whip withdrawn it gives him another chance to cause further chaos within the Cons immediately prior to an election which must be tempting for him.

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  2. Nope. You can't trust Johnson. He's proving himself to be the slimiest toad in toad hall (under Cummings' tutelage). He must wait until Boris has delivered the request to the EU, seen the EU accept and grant the extension and see it enacted, i.e. post October 31st. Expect Corbyn to call for an election, probably via a vote of no confidence, on or around November 1st.



    Not sure on that but things are moving that quickly anything can happen.

    A confidence vote between 17th and 31st Oct gives Parliament full control since they have a mechanism to change the PM immediately themselves if Johnson does not request and accept an extension if it is legislated for. Also the EU heads of state meeting will have taken place where they will be able to agree if an extension is on the table in response to laws passed in parliament.

    Another interesting situation of Johnson’s own making now is there are now some eminent ex Tory MPs who would be able to fill the slot of temporary PMs who would stand a better chance of getting approve by parliament who will not be standing as Conservatives in a future election such as Ken Clarke and Rory Stewart. Bottom line is, if Johnson goes against decisions and laws passed in parliament they must take control of the timeline.


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  3. I don't know that  that is the process. Usually my experience is I have all the paperwork checked, and then offer payment after it is given the okay. I have not heard of this double whammy 1900 bah happening. Have you? 


    Virtually every time I have done my marriage extension the miserable woman there has rejected something on the first pass and sent my wife off to do extra copies of something or other or we have had to go to the bank for a new letter - never made us pay twice, lol.

    Guess if she does insist on a TM30 next is just a question of getting one while we are there and possibly paying a fine but not exactly a major inconvenience.


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  4. But when have Brexiteers ever cared about the UK’s parliamentary representative democracy? 
     


    If (and it is a very big if) a new govt/pm becomes apparent in the 14 day period that had the backing of the majority of MPs which could be done through a parliamentary motion or an open letter signed by MPs then, should the current PM refuse to resign, it would force the Queen to make a political decision which would be a massive escalation.


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  5. It was mentioned in a (either Guardian or BBC) article that this would require the existing PM to step down after losing a no-confidence vote which legally he wouldn’t be obliged to. 
     
    BBC it is: “However, Catherine Haddon, from the Institute for Government think tank, said that while [forming a government of national unity] was possible, it would rely on Mr Johnson resigning as PM after losing a no-confidence vote - something he is not legally bound to do.”
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49225906



    They would be on very tricky constitutional ground to pull that one. The core element of the U.K. constitutional system is the sovereignty of parliament and that the government serves with its confidence. For the PM/govt not to resign would be the same as to prorogue parliament and the Queen to take back power under her appointed PM.

    The 14 day rule for parliament to put forward a new govt/pm is a new one in the Fixed Term Parliament Act from 2011 and has not been attempted before. Prior to that an election could have been called immediately. The last time that happened was 1979 when Mrs T came to power so using historical references is a bit dubious.


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  6. You will still have to go the the hospital for the tests and I think they include the doctor for a small fee.  I'm waiting to find out.


    Mine did not need an x-ray so nothing that Dr Olivier could not provide though I assume he sent the blood samples out for testing. Once I had asked the insurer (Prudential) if they could use him they contacted him directly to make arrangements including paying him directly.


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